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Old 2012-02-01, 00:13   Link #1
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Character Discussion - Oshino Shinobu

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Old 2012-02-01, 03:19   Link #2
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I wrote a Shinobu post on my recently started blog, here is the post itself:
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Old 2012-02-01, 03:24   Link #3
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Hell these two are literally the same species...I would say their relationship is stronger than anything else in the setting
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Old 2012-02-01, 03:38   Link #4
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Shinobu only wanted to die because she was bored of living. Considering how she takes interest in a lot of things now, I think that problem has been solved.
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Old 2012-02-01, 04:01   Link #5
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It was quite awhile ago that I first said that I thought Shinobu was one of the two pillars of this series (Hitagi being the other one). It is very exciting to see this starting to come to fruition. Shinobu is a fascinating character who is very sympathetic in her connection to Koyomi. However, it is true that what she means for Araragi himself is the end of all his personal connections, and his humanity. I think that it is this conflict which Shinobu introduces (against Hitagi) which bring the meaning to this story. Bakemonogatari and Kizumonogatari really are both, in the end, only prologues in the larger scheme of things. Once Nisemonogatari makes this clear and the audience starts to catch on to the true scope and conflict of this series, I look forward to even greater continuing adaptations and commercial success from this series for SHAFT and Nishio.
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Old 2012-02-01, 04:35   Link #6
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Much appreciated, Ominon, these bits of info from the novels really enhance my enjoyment of the show.
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Old 2012-02-28, 18:30   Link #7
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I wrote a Shinobu post on my recently started blog, here is the post itself:
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Adding on to that: You can also say that they are alter ego's of one another in a way. Shinobu is the closest character in the series to Araragi and understands him the best. Their link is so powerful, that they share emotions, pain, thoughts, and etc. About Vampires, Shinobu stated in Kizumongatari that the main cause of death for vampires was suicide, simply put they were bored of their long dull lives so they ended it. Shinobu was the oldest and strongest vampire in the series as Kiss-Shot.



P.S. Shinobu's my favorite character too. I couldn't be more obvious with my sigy and avatar, lol.
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Old 2012-03-01, 16:57   Link #8
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well i can tell you one thing..

A vampire who gets happy being rewarded with donuts is definitely a first. :P
In the first season of the anime.. when oshino told araragi shinobu was PMSy cuz he ate the last donut, i thought he was kidding.
After watching the second season... i can see that wasnt a joke at all.

i seriously cracked up when she tells araragi to give her a tribute with a mountain of donuts... and her old way of speaking is epic.

Most definitely also one of my favorate loli vampires... probably tied with eva from negima.
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Old 2012-03-02, 04:04   Link #9
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When she started talking I burst out laughing and never looked back.
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Old 2012-03-02, 04:59   Link #10
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Omimon are we going to see shinobu in her grown up version in nisemonogatari?
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Old 2012-03-02, 06:35   Link #11
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Omimon are we going to see shinobu in her grown up version in nisemonogatari?
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Old 2012-03-08, 03:02   Link #12
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Interesting that she has short hair at the 10 year old appearance.
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Old 2012-03-08, 18:06   Link #13
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Adding on to that: You can also say that they are alter ego's of one another in a way. Shinobu is the closest character in the series to Araragi and understands him the best. Their link is so powerful, that they share emotions, pain, thoughts, and etc. About Vampires, Shinobu stated in Kizumongatari that the main cause of death for vampires was suicide, simply put they were bored of their long dull lives so they ended it. Shinobu was the oldest and strongest vampire in the series as Kiss-Shot.
Hm, I am pretty sure Tsubasa understands (more precisely analyzes) both Koyomi and Shinobu better than each other and themselves

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When she started talking I burst out laughing and never looked back.
One of the problems of watching Nise- before Kizu-
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Old 2012-03-10, 22:17   Link #14
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Don't really see it as a problem. It was a pleasant surprise and she is probably my favorite of this franchise atm.
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Old 2012-03-11, 07:18   Link #15
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at first, I hate her... in Bake, she didn't get much action time...
In Nise, she's starting to be my favorite character because she become more honest in episode 4 and her relationship with Araragi is much closer than other girls

finally, after reading a doujinshi, I know that Monogatari series' ending is actually Araragi and Shinobu pairing... because Araragi will never be able to bring himself to kill Shinobu, that's why both of them will spend their lifetime together
I can't see that Shinobu actually feels guilty but Araragi always convince her that it is his choice

can't wait to see Kizu got animated.... Shinobu ending is the best!!!
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Old 2012-03-11, 10:05   Link #16
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mmmmmm...donuts.
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Old 2012-03-19, 05:21   Link #17
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Is there any possible way to deny that she is the fated girl for Koyomi? They're gonna end together no matter what :|

Not that that's a bad thing considering how awesome Shinobu is.
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Not really, it's just circumstances, let me elaborate...

The fated girl for Koyomi is Hitagi, because she pushed accidentally all the right buttons, and now (as of Nise- struggles to keep up).

The ideal girl is Tsubasa, because she embodies everything Koyomi wants, but is too perfect in his eyes for him.

The accessible girls are pretty much the rest of the female cast, but are too flawed even compared to Koyomi.

Now where Kissshot fits, she can fluidly switch to all of the above roles, plus she is bound to be with Koyomi forever (as of Kizu's resolution). But that does not mean that she is the best fit, it's just that she can assume the role that Koyomi wants his girl to play, and that's miles away from being THE ONE for him... she can just fake it... should I borrow from Nise's theme
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Not really, it's just circumstances, let me elaborate...

The fated girl for Koyomi is Hitagi, because she pushed accidentally all the right buttons, and now (as of Nise- struggles to keep up).

The ideal girl is Tsubasa, because she embodies everything Koyomi wants, but is too perfect in his eyes for him.

The accessible girls are pretty much the rest of the female cast, but are too flawed even compared to Koyomi.

Now where Kissshot fits, she can fluidly switch to all of the above roles, plus she is bound to be with Koyomi forever (as of Kizu's resolution). But that does not mean that she is the best fit, it's just that she can assume the role that Koyomi wants his girl to play, and that's miles away from being THE ONE for him... she can just fake it... should I borrow from Nise's theme
Your denial. I love it.

Jokes aside though, how deeply does Koyomi get romantically involved with Shinobu? What's their opinion of each other as a man and a woman, basically?
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Old 2012-03-27, 14:12   Link #20
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I do wonder where Shinobu fits, since Koyomi seems to hide less from her than the other females. He doesn't tell Hitagi much about Mayoi. He had to put up a front with Tsubasa and pretend he was tough with his sisters. Suruga and Nadeko are even less informed.

With Shinobu, it seems that he doesn't really hide anything from her.
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