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Old 2012-03-25, 22:09   Link #2661
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Let's assume for a second that the rumour is true, anyway. Those plans, if real, would had been in the pipeline months before ME3 was even released.

Even if Mass Shift was real, the whole plan would had been scrapped by now anyway given the massive backlash towards ME3's ending.
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Old 2012-03-26, 00:29   Link #2662
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Well that "Mass Shift" bullsh17 rumor is indeed bull:

Well, thank fuck for that. I would have simply given up on Bioware completely if that had been actually true. The whole thing feels like a bad fanfiction.
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Old 2012-03-26, 02:10   Link #2663
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Wait, people believe anything they read on 4chan?
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Old 2012-03-26, 02:52   Link #2664
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I hope they release the Collector Rifle, Raider Shotgun, Indra Sniper Rifle, and the Chakram Launcher as DLC soon. I'm gathering so much credits, and I don't have any more weapons to upgrade.
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Old 2012-03-26, 03:36   Link #2665
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Wait, people believe anything they read on 4chan?
People tend to cling to what they want to hear.

Me, I read with a sceptic eyebrow raised until I hit the "new character based on someone who baked cookies for the devs" part. That's when I just rolled my eyes and closed the image.
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Old 2012-03-26, 03:41   Link #2666
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People tend to cling to what they want to hear.

Me, I read with a sceptic eyebrow raised until I hit the "new character based on someone who baked cookies for the devs" part. That's when I just rolled my eyes and closed the image.
Except nobody actually wanted to hear the astonishing stupidity in that series of posts.
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Old 2012-03-26, 05:18   Link #2667
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They do. Not the content itself, no, but the thought that Bioware planned this. Because it confirms their screams that Bioware is being stupid/greedy/insert prefered accusation here.

It's the whole "See? I was right!" idea that people cling to.
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Old 2012-03-26, 12:44   Link #2668
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Lol the 4chan post sounded so fake from the beginning.
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Old 2012-03-26, 16:29   Link #2669
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Gah the screencap is overloaded apparently. Stupid tinypic.

Well here's a video someone has probably posted already but here it is anyways (it's 20 mins, but well worth it):

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Old 2012-03-27, 03:11   Link #2670
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That is a cool video. Makes the ending out to be quite the epic mind screw, which is probably to subtle for most.
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Old 2012-03-27, 10:04   Link #2671
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I have a feeling that Bioware may end up just adding more stuff to the ending rather than offer alternate versions and such which in the end result would mean jack.

This would probably lead to an even bigger backlash as that's not what people were complaining about. They could probably clarify the starchild (Shepard asking why he looks like the kid you saw died) but I would like to see how they explain,

-> Joker running away from the field (with your squadmates) despite Hackett stating firmly that this was an "all in" battle and there was no retreat.
-> Nobody knowing what the Crucible actually does but again, "all in"
-> Was the entire fleet destoyed since Normandy was affected?
-> The fact that the marine was stating that all ground forces were to fall back to the buildings (and ships don't fall back to buildings)
-> The fact that the Crucible was already on the way and Hackett specifically stated to protect it at all costs and it was locked in so they couldn't back out.

I mean they have a lot of explaining to do.

Is it just me or does anybody else find it odd that Bioware is so firm on sticking with its guns?
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Old 2012-03-27, 10:16   Link #2672
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Is it just me or does anybody else find it odd that Bioware is so firm on sticking with its guns?
Why shouldn't they? The news media is on their side. If anything, there are many websites I will never visit again because of their ME3 reporting. I don't care if they had a biased game review. But most of the media response concerning the complaints are downright insulting.

PR rule is never admit error if you think you can get away with it. Lines like "artistic integrity" and "you never were suppose to have the final choice because it is realistic" makes me want to punch walls.

Bioware sticks to their guns because they don't care. They have your money, and they will have even more money when they charge you a paid DLC you deserved to have for free. You are a wallet to them. Entitled to nothing.

Bioware is not so much sticking to their guns as much as don't see the need to explain themselves. Why should they care about pleasing people?

It's telling that the official response to the complaints were "The game got 10/10 from review sites! So what's the problem?".
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Old 2012-03-27, 10:55   Link #2673
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It's not like changing a story based on reception is a novel thing. Books have been rewritten since the dawn of their creation, movies receive special editions on an almost constant basis and comic books devote entire series to retconning unpopular endings.
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Old 2012-03-27, 10:59   Link #2674
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It's not like changing a story based on reception is a novel thing. Books have been rewritten since the dawn of their creation, movies receive special editions on an almost constant basis and comic books devote entire series to retconning unpopular endings.
Still, how often do you see new media insulting the customers who complain? Really, all the new reports on this just makes me mad.
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Old 2012-03-27, 11:10   Link #2675
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Oh don't get my wrong, that post was in support of yours. People treat it as something special that an unpopular ending might get rewritten, but its really not that special.
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Old 2012-03-27, 13:52   Link #2676
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Still, how often do you see new media insulting the customers who complain? Really, all the new reports on this just makes me mad.
Usually it's the other way around.

I mean what do you gain by insulting your readers?

That's what gets me. What makes Mass Effect so special that it deserves to be raised as a God by the higher ups?

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Bioware sticks to their guns because they don't care. They have your money, and they will have even more money when they charge you a paid DLC you deserved to have for free. You are a wallet to them. Entitled to nothing.
The game itself, 99% of it was fine, the ending simply ruined it for me but I like playing it several times with different ME2 saves to get different experiences.

On that matter, I hope no one would buy any DLC's except for anything that changes the ending. Like I said, what's the point of buying "Take Omega back" when in the end space travel will be destroyed and you end up starving to death?
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Old 2012-03-27, 17:25   Link #2677
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Theres one thing the ending has ruined most for me and thats re-playability.

I've played through ME1 and ME2 multiply times each and enjoyed each play-through since the endings always played out differently but now after seeing the same utterly awful endings of ME3 I just can't be bothered/motivated enough to play through it again.
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Old 2012-03-27, 22:00   Link #2678
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Off topic, but..

http://kotaku.com/5896947/the-true-e...street-fighter

Broken Steel, FF13-2 DLC ending and this has set a very bad precedent.

It gives the sign to developers that's it's okay to sell an incomplete product.

As horrible as ME3's ending are, if they patch their ending with a DLC it will pretty much kill the future of storytelling in videogames. And if they put a price tag on it... Oh God.. the horror
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Old 2012-03-27, 22:34   Link #2679
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If there's a price tag, we'll know the motivation was greed. If it's free, I wonder why they didn't complete the game then release it. Or perhaps considering the scale of the outburst, it would've been for a price but they decide otherwise. I somehow doubt this was originally planned like this, there's no way someone with 1/2 a brain would think this wouldn't get significant backlash from fans. Stupid pills, they were taking them.
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Old 2012-03-27, 22:35   Link #2680
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