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Old 2012-03-23, 21:49   Link #81
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Considering they alluded to more story at the end of the first series, and we got 2wei, and they've definitely been alluding to stuff with Miyu and something screwy with the Grail War during 2wei, it only makes sense that we'd get a 3rei.

Here's to hoping for some Unlimited Blade Works action (don't care if it's from Kuro or Shirou, though Shirou doing it would be awesome).
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Old 2012-03-23, 22:19   Link #82
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But Shirou is a side character.

Anyway Irisviel doesn't know about an 8th class or 8th card according to Illya's hunch despite Kuro's questions.

That makes sense given here the Einzberns, Makiri and Tohsaka did not cooperate as far as we know.

Einzberns provides the grail. Hence Kiritsugu's rebellion here. Unlike his Fate Stay Zero version saving his family was more important than saving the world. He can't sacrifice either Irisviel or Illya.

The Tohsaka's provides the land where the Fuyuki grail war should have been. Rin is ignorant of any such history.

The Makiri/Matou invented the Servant system. We only know a Sakura Matou exists.

I'm betting in Drei we'll get the Matou's into the picture. And it relates to Miyu being a vessel for the grail much like Sakura was planned to be by Zouken.
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Old 2012-03-24, 03:40   Link #83
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I'm delighted the series is continuing. I hope Kiritsugu will finally show up (other than in flashbacks) in 3drei.
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Old 2012-03-25, 07:54   Link #84
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apparently they introduced two more characters/antagonists in the last chapter of 2wei.
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Old 2012-03-28, 00:03   Link #85
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Now we're talking.
Spoiler for spoiler image, in case anyone was unclear on what the 8th card would be:
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Old 2012-03-28, 01:54   Link #86
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Well at least I was partially correct

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Old 2012-03-28, 02:34   Link #87
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Different...and not dark like the others.
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Old 2012-03-28, 08:08   Link #88
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Looks like a pissed-off and determined Rin. Who's the shrimp next to her?

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Old 2012-03-28, 12:28   Link #89
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Well

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Old 2012-03-28, 12:32   Link #90
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Well

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There were really only two options for what the 8th card would be. This, or...

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Old 2012-03-28, 13:23   Link #91
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Well there is one other possibility, a holdover from the Third War....but there would have had to be a war for it to happen.

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Old 2012-03-28, 13:26   Link #92
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Well, yeah, but there wasn't said war, so I didn't include it as a possibility. I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled that out in some capacity for 3rei if they bring in Zouken, though.
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Old 2012-03-28, 13:32   Link #93
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Well they did establish Sakura being around in one side episode. Her being there resparked the competition for Shirou in Rin and Luvia...after the blew the crap out of him of course. So were there is Sakura there is potentally Zouken. If he's not long dead. Would there be a reason for him to live that long without the Wars?

Shirou still seems to get into Harem lead situations even though he's techically not the lead anymore. It does seem all the girls want him in some way. But Illya seems to be gaining her own yuri harem at the same time, as fitting her main character status.
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Old 2012-03-28, 13:48   Link #94
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Would there be a reason for him to live that long without the Wars?
His undying love for Justivka?

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Old 2012-03-28, 13:57   Link #95
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If there was no war there wouldn't be a way to reach Justivka...would there?

Yet the Einzbern still have the homunculus Iris, Illya, and the maids....if they actually are still homonculus.

The whole thing has gotten weird in that there was and wasn't a Grail War. Or something.
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Old 2012-03-28, 14:19   Link #96
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All we really know is that they broke off around the time that the first war would've been, and it was known that they were aiming for a ritual. It's quite possible that they had been in talks with the Makiri and Tohsaka about the war, but broke it off before the grail's actual creation rather than after like in regular continuity.

Following this train of thought, there's a chance that all sides still met back then (including Zelretch), prior to the Einzbern isolating themselves. After their isolation, they may have still created the grail itself, but had no way of going about performing the ritual since they had neither the land nor means of providing mana. Flash foward and they feel that they found a way using Irisviel and Ilya, but they were stopped.
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Old 2012-03-29, 08:51   Link #97
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Here's a blog post about volume 5: http://bosel.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-736.html (spoilers, obviously)

Hopefully, somebody can translate it.

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Now we're talking.
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Spoiler for Volume 5 (chapter 23++):
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Old 2012-03-29, 08:54   Link #98
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In that case...

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Old 2012-06-18, 12:54   Link #99
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New chapter is out.

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Old 2012-06-18, 14:50   Link #100
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I bet it's Rho Aius.
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