Nisemonogatari - Overall Series Impressions & Total Series Rating

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by SRanger

Far too much fanservice, and wtf fanservice at that. I mean, come on, think about the fans who DONT like fucking incest and lolis. That shit made me cringe.

The story was all over the place, especially the ending with these two ghost hunters popping up and the typical "ima beat you up Araragi, lol we made up you win" end.
I thought the Fire Sisters story was pretty mundane, especially with that lame-ass villain.

Fucking haircuts. Why?!

Needed more Hitagi, a better storyline, and FAR LESS fanservice.

You're the best example of the vocal minority that expects the series to be something that it never was. Bake- TV ending is to blame of course, confusing so many viewers, especially abroad. On the other hand, it boosted sales, while misleading consumers that the series is another mainstream show, instead of an interesting late night one, and therefore we got Katana-, -Madoka, Nise-, Kizu-, and hopefully a more writer-influenced (rather than publisher-influenced) Medaka-

Oh! and ecchi is not necessarily fanservice, as well as all underaged girls are not lolis

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by Malkuth

Oh! and ecchi is not necessarily fanservice, as well as all underaged girls are not lolis

Aye, it gets really old having hammer those misconceptions down.... yet they persist.

[papermario13689]

Doing what it did best, Nise's dialog and atmosphere was fantastic like always. There were a few scenes that I personally didn't like; fanservice was already commonplace in Bake, so that's not even really a thing to note. I just felt this wasn't as strong as Bake overall, but what Nise did well was awesome.

Favourite thing was Tsukihi's opening; a great "Renai Circulation" of this season. Bake scored a 9 for me, Nise was an 8.

Oh, and what's the huge deal with haircuts I keep seeing around here? Seeing the promotional wallpapers with the new character designs was EPIC. I don't know why short hair on females scares so many people; it's a style. A really cute and/or cool style at that.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by Malkuth

You're the best example of the vocal minority that expects the series to be something that it never was. Bake- TV ending is to blame of course, confusing so many viewers, especially abroad. On the other hand, it boosted sales, while misleading consumers that the series is another mainstream show, instead of an interesting late night one, and therefore we got Katana-, -Madoka, Nise-, Kizu-, and hopefully a more writer-influenced (rather than publisher-influenced) Medaka-

Oh! and ecchi is not necessarily fanservice, as well as all underaged girls are not lolis

You know I've always felt that peoples high expectations for this franchise might have just more than a little to do with how the fans of it often talk it up as if to imply that it's a must see masterpiece. Considering how highly praised and touted this series has been by it's fans and how big a deal it's become I don't think it's unfair that some people would have the expectation that there be more to it than meets the eye. I certainly had that expectation initially and was pretty underwhelmed by everything I've seen from it so far. Just a thought I've always had. At the very least I don't think these expectations and misconceptions (and based on what I've seen I agree they are indeed total misconceptions) sprang from nothing, that's for sure.

[zarqu]

Don't believe the hype. I have never referred to Bake/Nise as a masterpiece. If someone uses the term "masterpiece" to refer to any work of art, that should only make one more skeptical. At least it makes me.

Isn't this obvious?

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by zarqu

Don't believe the hype. I have never referred to Bake/Nise as a masterpiece. If someone uses the term "masterpiece" to refer to any work of art, that should only make one more skeptical. At least it makes me.

Isn't this obvious?

One would think, but hype can be a pretty powerful force and many still fall prey to it pretty easily and I'd argue this is especially true with anime fandom. The chance to belong to a larger community of fans within a niche audience like that which enjoys anime is often pretty tempting I would imagine and the sheer chance that a work might actually live up to the hype will usually get people to check out at least a few episodes of a show. In my experience hype rarely pans out in reality though which has made picking anime to watch that I wouldn't otherwise pick up automatically more than a bit of a crap shoot because rarely do share similar expectations and interests with the rest of the community at large these days. This is why I've tried to form a smaller community of contacts and friends who understand my tastes and expectation levels enough to recommend anime to me.

Personally though I've grown to hate hype because it often obscures the true nature of a work behind a sheen of inflated expectations and positive reactions, but I've always found it's worth checking out a hyped series just to have an opinion on whether it lives up to it or not.

[SRanger]

I thought Bakemonogatari was really good though, I was just sadly uninformed that Nisemonogatari would be nothing like it. I read somewhere that Isin wasn't initially going to publish Nise, and it was just like nonsense. Guess that makes sense.

Honestly, I'd give Nise a 6-7 /10, while I gave Bake a 9.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by SRanger

I thought Bakemonogatari was really good though, I was just sadly uninformed that Nisemonogatari would be nothing like it. I read somewhere that Isin wasn't initially going to publish Nise, and it was just like nonsense. Guess that makes sense.

Honestly, I'd give Nise a 6-7 /10, while I gave Bake a 9.

you don't have the Courage to give it a 8 at least?

[zarqu]

Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

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I don't really disagree with you. Hype is a powerful force. The antidote to that is obviously to not pay attention, or just learning to do your background work. In my case, personal interests and the interests of the community at large rarely meet, too (wrt. say, Little Busters! or the new KyoAni show).

I don't know. Being skeptical is simply natural for me, so the naiveté of some people does indeed surprise me at times. Of course it could be me who's being naive here!

Originally Posted by SRanger

I read somewhere that Isin wasn't initially going to publish Nise, and it was just like nonsense. Guess that makes sense.

This is a misunderstanding. Postscripts for Bake/Kizu. Nise is what it is.

[SRanger]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

you don't have the Courage to give it a 8 at least?

Damn, that sounds heroic..

[Malkuth]

@Kaioshin-sama: I would agree if by masterpiece you mean something that would be unanimously regarded as such. With that annotation neither Nise- nor Bake- (either books or anime) are masterpieces, but nothing really can be, since opinions are by definitions subjective and bound to vary.

[Hasumi]

So I finally got around to watching this and I have to say I was a bit let down, not that much since I was spoiled by the Light Novel Thread but I guess I still harbored a bit of hope left over from Bakemonogatari. Even if I say that there's still loads that I liked about this--the ED, Hanekawa/Kanbaru's new look, and Kiss-shot talking/showing an older form. I'm anticipating the other books' adaptations since I know they'll be better, so I guess it was nice to get this over with to make way for the big boys.