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demino_hellsin · 2012-04-09, 11:06

easy... you don't. That's the whole beauty of the situation. The two Ichikas are always drawn to each other because of their similarities. At the same time, they are intrigued by how different they are beyond their gender.

The other girls are always hanging around him but when he tries to get some peace and quiet, it's always the female ichika who ends up there. standard shoujo fair y'know?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-04-09, 11:09

@ Eras
that's the spirit.

His type is the selfless, mature girl that firm on her words and dedication. Maybe because it's an antithesis of Ran, and kinda similar to his mom.

@ Demi
In short, the usual demotion

Eratas123 · 2012-04-09, 11:13

He has an Oedipus complex? Come on, the dysfuction's getting kinda overboard.

demino_hellsin · 2012-04-09, 11:16

@zero: I'm suddenly having visions of Scott Pilgrim... FemIchika having to defeat all of the girls to get to Ichika

ZeroXSEED · 2012-04-09, 11:17

@ Eras
Oedipus complex? Hardly, it's a real life phenomenon and less squicky than it sound, just a little...old school.

It can be explained that since Dan lack a father figure (obscured on purpose), and his granddad is an ass, his vision of ideal parent would be his mother. And in his mind, the image of a good wife = image of his mother.

@ Demi
I don't know Scott Pilgrim, but I'm certain I HAVE to demote the harem, it just don't work.

Eratas123 · 2012-04-09, 11:19

Don't kids have those complexes and grow out of it?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-04-09, 11:22

True, it's sometimes go overboard and turn into Mother Complex which kids need to grow out of, this is not Dan's case, however. Therefore, it's never problematic, just that it formed what he is now, especially his type.

Eratas123 · 2012-04-09, 11:25

Does Dan have a Hot mom or something? Ichika seems to imply it.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-04-09, 11:26

Yeah, in ST at least, she looks 25, while actually she's 10 year older

EDIT: what's her name again? I kinda forgot.

Eratas123 · 2012-04-09, 11:34

Rem Gotanada. The family seems to have a fetish with 3 letter names. Ren, Ran, Gen, Dan.

demino_hellsin · 2012-04-09, 11:37

or one kanji/syllable. Which is actually more applicable in japanese writing system.

There must be a way other than demotion. I mean demotion requires impeccable reasoning so as not to appear as an asspull. Or at least some serious pacing haha.

Eratas123 · 2012-04-09, 11:41

Demotion's the only way. Unless you want to make a full story for every heroine.

demino_hellsin · 2012-04-09, 11:46

crud... the only other way I can think of is each one dies off somehow one by one >.>

ZeroXSEED · 2012-04-09, 11:47

^ Exactly, My sis is new to this field, I can help, but you know my penchant for unnecessary drama might taint the mood of otherwise lighthearted story.

Houki's counterpart and her entire family already dead here, for example. Charlotte never born, Charles is, and while Dunois is a rich family, they're not as stuck up as canon and thus he is tolerated. Rin never came to I.S.A. (more like... not yet) and her counterpart died in an accident. Laura's counterpart didn't exist, and Cecilia... I dunno.

demino_hellsin · 2012-04-09, 11:51

Sarashikis? How are they holding up?

Eratas123 · 2012-04-09, 11:51

Why not just have them make appearances after their arc? Look at Bioware games: Crapload of party members, but they still have the spotlight from time to time.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-04-09, 11:53

Again, my incompetence and her inexperience might mess with stuff, just look at ST, it's pretty imbalanced. I do have a plan for Rin, Cecilia, Tatenashi, and Kanzashi.

Some spotlight will be provided, at worst they'll be secondary character, just not as much as canon.

demino_hellsin · 2012-04-09, 11:56

so settling for stable single girl romance instead of harem?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-04-09, 11:59

More like weird love triangle, but close.

Eratas123 · 2012-04-09, 11:59

Rifting around with your opposite sex counterpart is stable?

2012-04-09, 11:09	Link #28822
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	@ Eras that's the spirit. His type is the selfless, mature girl that firm on her words and dedication. Maybe because it's an antithesis of Ran, and kinda similar to his mom. @ Demi In short, the usual demotion __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-04-09, 11:13	Link #28823
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	He has an Oedipus complex? Come on, the dysfuction's getting kinda overboard. __________________

2012-04-09, 11:17	Link #28825
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	@ Eras Oedipus complex? Hardly, it's a real life phenomenon and less squicky than it sound, just a little...old school. It can be explained that since Dan lack a father figure (obscured on purpose), and his granddad is an ass, his vision of ideal parent would be his mother. And in his mind, the image of a good wife = image of his mother. @ Demi I don't know Scott Pilgrim, but I'm certain I HAVE to demote the harem, it just don't work. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-04-09, 11:19	Link #28826
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Don't kids have those complexes and grow out of it? __________________

2012-04-09, 11:22	Link #28827
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	True, it's sometimes go overboard and turn into Mother Complex which kids need to grow out of, this is not Dan's case, however. Therefore, it's never problematic, just that it formed what he is now, especially his type. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-04-09, 11:06	Link #28821
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	easy... you don't. That's the whole beauty of the situation. The two Ichikas are always drawn to each other because of their similarities. At the same time, they are intrigued by how different they are beyond their gender. The other girls are always hanging around him but when he tries to get some peace and quiet, it's always the female ichika who ends up there. standard shoujo fair y'know?

2012-04-09, 11:16	Link #28824
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	@zero: I'm suddenly having visions of Scott Pilgrim... FemIchika having to defeat all of the girls to get to Ichika

2012-04-09, 11:25	Link #28828
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Does Dan have a Hot mom or something? Ichika seems to imply it. __________________

2012-04-09, 11:26	Link #28829
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Yeah, in ST at least, she looks 25, while actually she's 10 year older EDIT: what's her name again? I kinda forgot. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-04-09, 11:34	Link #28830
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Rem Gotanada. The family seems to have a fetish with 3 letter names. Ren, Ran, Gen, Dan. __________________

2012-04-09, 11:37	Link #28831
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	or one kanji/syllable. Which is actually more applicable in japanese writing system. There must be a way other than demotion. I mean demotion requires impeccable reasoning so as not to appear as an asspull. Or at least some serious pacing haha.

2012-04-09, 11:41	Link #28832
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Demotion's the only way. Unless you want to make a full story for every heroine. __________________

2012-04-09, 11:46	Link #28833
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	crud... the only other way I can think of is each one dies off somehow one by one >.>

2012-04-09, 11:47	Link #28834
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	^ Exactly, My sis is new to this field, I can help, but you know my penchant for unnecessary drama might taint the mood of otherwise lighthearted story. Houki's counterpart and her entire family already dead here, for example. Charlotte never born, Charles is, and while Dunois is a rich family, they're not as stuck up as canon and thus he is tolerated. Rin never came to I.S.A. (more like... not yet) and her counterpart died in an accident. Laura's counterpart didn't exist, and Cecilia... I dunno. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-04-09, 11:51	Link #28835
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Sarashikis? How are they holding up?

2012-04-09, 11:51	Link #28836
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Why not just have them make appearances after their arc? Look at Bioware games: Crapload of party members, but they still have the spotlight from time to time. __________________

2012-04-09, 11:53	Link #28837
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Again, my incompetence and her inexperience might mess with stuff, just look at ST, it's pretty imbalanced. I do have a plan for Rin, Cecilia, Tatenashi, and Kanzashi. Some spotlight will be provided, at worst they'll be secondary character, just not as much as canon. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-04-09, 11:56	Link #28838
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	so settling for stable single girl romance instead of harem?

2012-04-09, 11:59	Link #28839
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	More like weird love triangle, but close. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-04-09, 11:59	Link #28840
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Rifting around with your opposite sex counterpart is stable? __________________