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LightMusicBand · 2012-04-15, 23:22

whoah, it seems like i missed A LOT while on vacation (more like a torture camp than a vacation actually). i guess you're problem with your amp BigSmokeDawg is electronically. any electronic system does get overheated and eventually fail through overuse and too frequent usage. i don't really practice much with my amp on because i don't want to disturb the neighbors, (and plus my amp sucks), and i want to hear my guitar cleanly, prioritizing cleanliness over speed. practicing without an amp is not that bad really. i mean, Yui does it all the time. i believe she doesn't have an amp at home, so she spends more time practicing without an amp than with one.

and hello there Night_Music. it's kinda a coincidence that we share common grounds. (not to mention that your username is kinda similar to mine). you sound like me more that 1 and a half years ago from the time i was starting to play the guitar. nobody is really born talented, and guitar skills are "learned" and not something that you are born with. And there is no problem starting with the electric guitar, though you might also want to practice with the acoustic from time to time. and it is never too late to learn their songs. well, i'm imagining myself still playing their songs in like 10 years or so in the future, because their songs, IMO are TIMELESS.

man, i miss my electric guitar. though i have my acoustic guitar to keep me company. and i am using the lessons that i have learned in this thread to tutor my friend in playing the guitar (though he has no interest in k-on, but oh well, you can never please everybody). i've used this brief moment with technology to catch up to the progress of this page.

so Night_Music, just remember, never give up. even if it takes you years to be good in the guitar, as long as you love what you do, it is not a waste of time. I too feel like giving up at times (like recently). but this away time from my guitar has really cleared my mind on why i wanna learn to play guitar (plus after seeing again a couple of episodes of k-on season 1 has reminded me that what i do is cool).
i really like it when people start to play the guitar because of k-on. it reminds me of myself.

sorry for writing too much, but i don't know the next time i will be able to visit this thread again. damn vacation.

trenton_dawn · 2012-04-16, 00:12

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Originally Posted by LightMusicBand

and i want to hear my guitar cleanly, prioritizing cleanliness over speed. practicing without an amp is not that bad really. i mean, Yui does it all the time. i believe she doesn't have an amp at home, so she spends more time practicing without an amp than with one.

The problem with playing unamplified is that something it hides mistakes you might be making. If anything, playing with an amp on clean setting is a good way to clearly hear your guitar (or playing an acoustic). But of course practice is practice, whether with an amp or not.

Quote:

damn vacation.

Lol, never thought I'd hear those words from someone other than myself :P

BigSmokeDawg · 2012-04-16, 02:03

I can't play without an amp >: It pains me to do it, everything is so twangy lol

Also I hate vacations (Or holidays as us Brits call them) Me and my family just end up arguing and then we all want to go home :V

Nice to see you're back as well, LMB. I was wonder where you'd gotten to

Oh yeah, my amp has strangely been fine over the last week. The pedal's stopped working, but at least it's not crashed or whatever on me. I'm still considering a proper tube amp though because of how damn good they sound. I'll see how much money I have after my exams in May...

trenton_dawn · 2012-04-16, 12:31

Funnily enough, my practice guitar doesn't sound very twangy because the action is really messed up and it's way too high. Makes it harder to play though lol.

BigSmokeDawg · 2012-04-16, 12:55

Oh yeah, I might have a cover of the Come With Me solo up soon, and in a few months, a cover of Hold Onto Your Love. My teacher helped me loads with that song yesterday, and I've finally gotten a hang of that run near the end. I'm very excited to make it :P

Come with me solo: http://soundcloud.com/bsmoked/come-with-me-solo

The run at the end is what I've been working on in particular as I've been having trouble with three note per string major scales. Luckily, I seem to be getting them now. I just gotta practice them for a while longer until they're totally up to scratch, but it's a start none the less. Let me know what you think!

ChorpSaway · 2012-04-16, 18:41

And again I miss out on stuff happening around here. Ah well.

Honestly, of all the times to start learning K-On! songs, this is probably the best. I mean, all the songs have been tabbed. You have the whole discography to choose from.

That solo seems to be coming pretty well, the bends were a little sketchy at the beginning, but the run at the end was pretty good. As long as you can clean up the notes, it should come out fine.

Oh yeah also I made this thing hope you like it even though everyone seems to be all meh about the second character singles.

trenton_dawn · 2012-04-17, 03:01

People didn't like the second character singles? Huh, this is the first I'd heard of it.

ChorpSaway · 2012-04-17, 03:13

Maybe that was just the initial reactions, but I remember seeing the music discussion thread around the release of the second singles set and everyone being all "meh not as good as first etc etc blah".
That might've changed since then, or that was just the vocal minority, I dunno. If that's the case, though, then cool!

Afternoon Tea · 2012-04-17, 07:32

I used to not like them when they first came out, but then grew to love them!

BigSmokeDawg · 2012-04-17, 10:10

I like most of the songs from the second character series. Oh my Giita, Over the Starlight, Drumming Shining My Life and Seishun Vibration are all really good.

trenton_dawn · 2012-04-17, 13:53

I think I overall like the S1 songs better, but mostly just because Gita ni Kubittake, Heart Goes Boom and Girly Storm Shissou Stick are so damn good. But I think Mugi and Azusa's S2 songs are stronger, and the side character songs are a little better than their S1 counterparts as well, in my opinion.

Night_Music · 2012-04-18, 06:57

Yes, LightMusicBand, I can see your point of view there. I don't care if it takes me forever, I will do what I like. But I won't be covering their songs and putting it in youtube. I don't think I can handle criticisms that good :P

wow, that was a really great cover BigSmokeDawg. Say, may I ask the teachers something, though not really related to tabbing.

How do you learn those fast licks? I mean, do you start slow and clean, then move up to speed, maintaining cleanliness, OR go full speed on the start, and try to polish from that speed.

Sorry for derailing the thread. But I have no one to teach me all these. Gomene...

AznAndy94 · 2012-04-18, 08:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Night_Music

How do you learn those fast licks? I mean, do you start slow and clean, then move up to speed, maintaining cleanliness, OR go full speed on the start, and try to polish from that speed.

It really depends on the person and what song you're doing. When you have a song that's not too fast or basic for a lick, for example, the the small verse part in Gohan wa Okazu, try to at least get down the basic "path" your hands have to follow. Really get confident about where your hand and fingers end up. It should come really quickly. However, licks that end up looking like ascending and descending scales at the rate of 1/16 notes, play as slow as you can manage (I'd say try at 50% speed and higher, anything lower would be not beneficial). Same as before, try to remember the "path" your fingers have to take. Muscle memory is a strange thing, the more you try playing, the more you hand may do it without even thinking.

On another note on that, my ex-bandbuddy would actually pound away at the 1/16 notes and if he messed up, he'd go right back to the start again. (It got really annoying)

BigSmokeDawg · 2012-04-18, 12:27

Yeah, it's all about being as relaxed as possible. Chappers does an awesome video on it on Youtube:

at around 1:45 or so

If you want to get playing solos and stuff then go ahead and learn some of these scales on here: http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/guitar_scales.php

Try things like the A Major pentatonic and stuff, and get used to going up and down them. Pretty much every solo with use scales in some way or another, so the earlier you get used to them, the better.

trenton_dawn · 2012-04-18, 13:17

Always start slow and speed up from there. This is a fundamental of practicing music. Start at a speed which you can fluently play, then increase your speed. If it's a really tough part, you might be going crazy slow, if it's a pretty easy part, you might be going just about full tempo. Once you're comfortable with that speed, increase it again. If you get bored, go ahead and try playing it faster but don't make a habit of it. Start off too fast and you run a high risk of leaving messy playing and uneven tempo in there because you never had time to concentrate on how you were playing.

S332666460 · 2012-04-19, 18:17

WOW o.o
Thank all of you for the huge comments a the amount of help.
I am the only one with actual experience, I've been playing the bass for 2 years now (K-ON got me into it), my Keyboardest and Guitar keep swapping instuments because they are trying to figure out which one is easier for them. We started with Fuwa Fuwa Time because it is probably my favourite one and they seem to like it so we stuck with that but we can only get about 30 seconds into it as a group, but i have memorized the song on bass so i can really help them out with their parts because I have all of th K-ON! albums on my computer.
I also really think that Tenshi ni Fureta Yo is a really nice song and I'm gonna try to get them to play it with me but they seem to have an interest in it so we are gonna go from there and all of your help is going to help guide on our way to completing a song together
You can call me Telephone if you like.

BigSmokeDawg · 2012-04-21, 18:17

Lookie what I done did

deng17 · 2012-04-22, 20:57

@BigSmokeDawg
Cool. I still haven't learned the 2 fast parts yet. Now I want to learn it XD.

Btw, are you using the vibrato used for classical/acoustic guitars? From what I've read before it's where you move left-right within the fret.

BigSmokeDawg · 2012-04-23, 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by deng17

@BigSmokeDawg
Cool. I still haven't learned the 2 fast parts yet. Now I want to learn it XD.

Btw, are you using the vibrato used for classical/acoustic guitars? From what I've read before it's where you move left-right within the fret.

I don't think so, I think it's probably just my bad technique lol. I asked my teacher about this yesterday, and all I'm doing is waggling my finger on the string, when I should actually be bending it back and forth slightly. It's something I gotta work on.

I might cover Pasanda Fwy next as well. I just need to conquer that massive fast bit towards the end haha

deng17 · 2012-04-23, 04:01

Oh but I think your current vibrato works for acoustic/classic...not sure though.

I've just learned vibrato last year and wasn't able to refine it yet (I don't have much time XD). Well just as long as you're doing vibrato with your wrist, you're doing the right thing. Bending vibrato is much much trickier XD but it's still using the same technique.

Anyway, I hope I can have time doing covers ><

2012-04-15, 23:22	Link #2221
LightMusicBand Did you say, HASHIRAMA?! Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: God Knows...	whoah, it seems like i missed A LOT while on vacation (more like a torture camp than a vacation actually). i guess you're problem with your amp BigSmokeDawg is electronically. any electronic system does get overheated and eventually fail through overuse and too frequent usage. i don't really practice much with my amp on because i don't want to disturb the neighbors, (and plus my amp sucks), and i want to hear my guitar cleanly, prioritizing cleanliness over speed. practicing without an amp is not that bad really. i mean, Yui does it all the time. i believe she doesn't have an amp at home, so she spends more time practicing without an amp than with one. and hello there Night_Music. it's kinda a coincidence that we share common grounds. (not to mention that your username is kinda similar to mine). you sound like me more that 1 and a half years ago from the time i was starting to play the guitar. nobody is really born talented, and guitar skills are "learned" and not something that you are born with. And there is no problem starting with the electric guitar, though you might also want to practice with the acoustic from time to time. and it is never too late to learn their songs. well, i'm imagining myself still playing their songs in like 10 years or so in the future, because their songs, IMO are TIMELESS. man, i miss my electric guitar. though i have my acoustic guitar to keep me company. and i am using the lessons that i have learned in this thread to tutor my friend in playing the guitar (though he has no interest in k-on, but oh well, you can never please everybody). i've used this brief moment with technology to catch up to the progress of this page. so Night_Music, just remember, never give up. even if it takes you years to be good in the guitar, as long as you love what you do, it is not a waste of time. I too feel like giving up at times (like recently). but this away time from my guitar has really cleared my mind on why i wanna learn to play guitar (plus after seeing again a couple of episodes of k-on season 1 has reminded me that what i do is cool). i really like it when people start to play the guitar because of k-on. it reminds me of myself. sorry for writing too much, but i don't know the next time i will be able to visit this thread again. damn vacation. __________________ My YouTube Channel and Soundcloud "I swear my allegiance under the Red Cloud Organization, for all things Light and Fluffy"...

2012-04-16, 02:03	Link #2223
BigSmokeDawg I play guitar and stuff Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: United Kingdom Age: 17	I can't play without an amp >: It pains me to do it, everything is so twangy lol Also I hate vacations (Or holidays as us Brits call them) Me and my family just end up arguing and then we all want to go home :V Nice to see you're back as well, LMB. I was wonder where you'd gotten to Oh yeah, my amp has strangely been fine over the last week. The pedal's stopped working, but at least it's not crashed or whatever on me. I'm still considering a proper tube amp though because of how damn good they sound. I'll see how much money I have after my exams in May... __________________ Check out my Youtube

2012-04-16, 12:31	Link #2224
trenton_dawn Silt Join Date: Oct 2010 Age: 25	Funnily enough, my practice guitar doesn't sound very twangy because the action is really messed up and it's way too high. Makes it harder to play though lol. __________________ Looking for K-ON sheet music? Master List of K-ON tabs -------------------------------

2012-04-16, 12:55	Link #2225
BigSmokeDawg I play guitar and stuff Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: United Kingdom Age: 17	Oh yeah, I might have a cover of the Come With Me solo up soon, and in a few months, a cover of Hold Onto Your Love. My teacher helped me loads with that song yesterday, and I've finally gotten a hang of that run near the end. I'm very excited to make it :P Come with me solo: http://soundcloud.com/bsmoked/come-with-me-solo The run at the end is what I've been working on in particular as I've been having trouble with three note per string major scales. Luckily, I seem to be getting them now. I just gotta practice them for a while longer until they're totally up to scratch, but it's a start none the less. Let me know what you think! __________________ Check out my Youtube Last edited by BigSmokeDawg; 2012-04-16 at 16:30.

2012-04-17, 03:01	Link #2227
trenton_dawn Silt Join Date: Oct 2010 Age: 25	People didn't like the second character singles? Huh, this is the first I'd heard of it. __________________ Looking for K-ON sheet music? Master List of K-ON tabs -------------------------------

2012-04-16, 18:41	Link #2226
ChorpSaway Member Join Date: Sep 2010	And again I miss out on stuff happening around here. Ah well. Honestly, of all the times to start learning K-On! songs, this is probably the best. I mean, all the songs have been tabbed. You have the whole discography to choose from. That solo seems to be coming pretty well, the bends were a little sketchy at the beginning, but the run at the end was pretty good. As long as you can clean up the notes, it should come out fine. Oh yeah also I made this thing hope you like it even though everyone seems to be all meh about the second character singles.

2012-04-17, 03:13	Link #2228
ChorpSaway Member Join Date: Sep 2010	Maybe that was just the initial reactions, but I remember seeing the music discussion thread around the release of the second singles set and everyone being all "meh not as good as first etc etc blah". That might've changed since then, or that was just the vocal minority, I dunno. If that's the case, though, then cool!

2012-04-17, 10:10	Link #2230
BigSmokeDawg I play guitar and stuff Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: United Kingdom Age: 17	I like most of the songs from the second character series. Oh my Giita, Over the Starlight, Drumming Shining My Life and Seishun Vibration are all really good. __________________ Check out my Youtube

2012-04-17, 13:53	Link #2231
trenton_dawn Silt Join Date: Oct 2010 Age: 25	I think I overall like the S1 songs better, but mostly just because Gita ni Kubittake, Heart Goes Boom and Girly Storm Shissou Stick are so damn good. But I think Mugi and Azusa's S2 songs are stronger, and the side character songs are a little better than their S1 counterparts as well, in my opinion. __________________ Looking for K-ON sheet music? Master List of K-ON tabs -------------------------------

2012-04-18, 06:57	Link #2232
Night_Music The End of Light Join Date: Mar 2012	Yes, LightMusicBand, I can see your point of view there. I don't care if it takes me forever, I will do what I like. But I won't be covering their songs and putting it in youtube. I don't think I can handle criticisms that good :P wow, that was a really great cover BigSmokeDawg. Say, may I ask the teachers something, though not really related to tabbing. How do you learn those fast licks? I mean, do you start slow and clean, then move up to speed, maintaining cleanliness, OR go full speed on the start, and try to polish from that speed. Sorry for derailing the thread. But I have no one to teach me all these. Gomene...

2012-04-18, 12:27	Link #2234
BigSmokeDawg I play guitar and stuff Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: United Kingdom Age: 17	Yeah, it's all about being as relaxed as possible. Chappers does an awesome video on it on Youtube: at around 1:45 or so If you want to get playing solos and stuff then go ahead and learn some of these scales on here: http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/guitar_scales.php Try things like the A Major pentatonic and stuff, and get used to going up and down them. Pretty much every solo with use scales in some way or another, so the earlier you get used to them, the better. __________________ Check out my Youtube

2012-04-18, 13:17	Link #2235
trenton_dawn Silt Join Date: Oct 2010 Age: 25	Always start slow and speed up from there. This is a fundamental of practicing music. Start at a speed which you can fluently play, then increase your speed. If it's a really tough part, you might be going crazy slow, if it's a pretty easy part, you might be going just about full tempo. Once you're comfortable with that speed, increase it again. If you get bored, go ahead and try playing it faster but don't make a habit of it. Start off too fast and you run a high risk of leaving messy playing and uneven tempo in there because you never had time to concentrate on how you were playing. __________________ Looking for K-ON sheet music? Master List of K-ON tabs -------------------------------

2012-04-19, 18:17	Link #2236
S332666460 Member Join Date: Jan 2011	WOW o.o Thank all of you for the huge comments a the amount of help. I am the only one with actual experience, I've been playing the bass for 2 years now (K-ON got me into it), my Keyboardest and Guitar keep swapping instuments because they are trying to figure out which one is easier for them. We started with Fuwa Fuwa Time because it is probably my favourite one and they seem to like it so we stuck with that but we can only get about 30 seconds into it as a group, but i have memorized the song on bass so i can really help them out with their parts because I have all of th K-ON! albums on my computer. I also really think that Tenshi ni Fureta Yo is a really nice song and I'm gonna try to get them to play it with me but they seem to have an interest in it so we are gonna go from there and all of your help is going to help guide on our way to completing a song together You can call me Telephone if you like.

2012-04-21, 18:17	Link #2237
BigSmokeDawg I play guitar and stuff Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: United Kingdom Age: 17	Lookie what I done did __________________ Check out my Youtube

2012-04-22, 20:57	Link #2238
deng17 Sylpheed Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Philippines Age: 23	@BigSmokeDawg Cool. I still haven't learned the 2 fast parts yet. Now I want to learn it XD. Btw, are you using the vibrato used for classical/acoustic guitars? From what I've read before it's where you move left-right within the fret. __________________ My Youtube Channel (Anime Song Covers)

2012-04-23, 04:01	Link #2240
deng17 Sylpheed Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Philippines Age: 23	Oh but I think your current vibrato works for acoustic/classic...not sure though. I've just learned vibrato last year and wasn't able to refine it yet (I don't have much time XD). Well just as long as you're doing vibrato with your wrist, you're doing the right thing. Bending vibrato is much much trickier XD but it's still using the same technique. Anyway, I hope I can have time doing covers >< __________________ My Youtube Channel (Anime Song Covers)