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dragonroots · 2012-04-17, 21:16

Okay guys who are talking about Campione i suggest you stop, it's off-topic here.

@Reaper If Kuroka joins Ise's team i can see her more as a pawn than a rook (since bishops are taken by Ravel and Asia).

Also, idk if anyone has asked this but does anyone think that Ise is gonna get a mutation piece with his set? Personally i think he's either gonna get a mutation queen or pawn.

Clue · 2012-04-17, 21:18

^pawn really?
i consider her as being stronger than both asia and ravel...

ReaperxKingx · 2012-04-17, 21:18

Clue whats your reasoning for choosing Rossweisse over Kuroka. Is it because she is Silver hair and a teacher? I see Kuroka becoming a part of Ise's harem more realistically than Rossweisse. Little by little, she went from wanting to kill him in vol 5, trying to seduce him in vol 7, and showing a weak side to him in vol 11. Little by little she is opening up to him, though in a way many would pity Koneko as even Azazel would make fun of her when comparing her to her sister. We could see a whole new side of her if she falls in love with Ise and joins the harem. Dragonroots we already dropped that, we are discussing about Rossweisse and Kuroka. What is you take or feelings of them becoming a part of Ise's harem?

Log · 2012-04-17, 21:19

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Originally Posted by dragonroots

Okay guys who are talking about Campione i suggest you stop, it's off-topic here.

@Reaper If Kuroka joins Ise's team i can see her more as a pawn than a rook (since bishops are taken by Ravel and Asia).

Also, idk if anyone has asked this but does anyone think that Ise is gonna get a mutation piece with his set? Personally i think he's either gonna get a mutation queen or pawn.

It's actually sorta likely that he would get a mutation piece considering that it was mentioned that there is 1/10 of a chance to get a mutation piece. Given that there are 16 pieces and 8 pawns it's highly likely that he will get a pawn piece.

Also Kuroka should be stronger then most of the Occult Club with the exception of Kiba and of course Issei so him getting a pawn isn't likely.

dragonroots · 2012-04-17, 21:20

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Originally Posted by Clue

^pawn really?
i consider her as being stronger than both asia and ravel...

She doesn't seem to be a close combat fighter, from her fight in v5 with Ise it seems she works with Illusions. This would be invaluable as a pawn, she could manipulate space to make her appear where she is not and hide her presence with sennjutsu to sneak into the enemies base and promote to queen with ease.

@Log also i think it was said that 1 in 10 owners of EP have a mutation piece, not 1 in 10 EP is a mutation. (not 100% on this).

Log · 2012-04-17, 21:22

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Originally Posted by dragonroots

She doesn't seem to be a close combat fighter, from her fight in v5 with Ise it seems she works with Illusions. This would be invaluable as a pawn, she could manipulate space to make her appear where she is not and hide her presence with sennjutsu to sneak into the enemies base and promote to queen with ease.

Would be pretty costly though. At least 4 pawns or more. Unless it's a mutation piece.

Clue · 2012-04-17, 21:25

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Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Clue whats your reasoning for choosing Rossweisse over Kuroka. Is it because she is Silver hair and a teacher? I see Kuroka becoming a part of Ise's harem more realistically than Rossweisse. Little by little, she went from wanting to kill him in vol 5, trying to seduce him in vol 7, and showing a weak side to her in vol 11. Little by little she is opening up to him, though in a way many would pity Koneko as even Azazel would make fun of her when comparing her to her sister. We could see a whole new side of her if she falls in love with Ise and joins the harem. Dragonroots we already dropped that, we are discussing about Rossweisse and Kuroka. What is you take or feelings of them becoming a part of Ise's harem?

Go back to the last page reaper i edited it a while ago you must have not noticed it
because newer posts came up. The main reason at the beginning was that she might
just be playing with ise but then i explained why i agreed with you...

ReaperxKingx · 2012-04-17, 21:25

Kuroka isn't a front line fighter, she is a magic user and is pretty good at it. If you considered when she was on the run from the Underworld, she killed all of her pursuers. I don't see Kuroka becoming a part of Ise's harem a problem. I am favoring it actually, I don't know whether its been foreshadowed, but Kuroka has a hard time trusting people. She has trauma for what she done and experience in her life. Similar situation with Ise, where Ise puts up a strong expression and determine face towards Rias and the girls. In reality he was holding all the pain the whole time, 6 months of living in fear whether or not the girls would treat Ise like Reynalle treated him if he confess. Since both has similar trust issues, though Ise has recovered greatly. Ise helping Kuroka would certainly bring her out of her trauma if she has trauma and falling in love with him afterwards.

Dragonking · 2012-04-17, 21:29

hey reaper ive been meaning to ask this wats ur sig mizore right?? anyway back on topic for me i think kuroka does have a good chance of joining the official harem and maybe a part of his future team as a rook since she was a rook before since i dont think koneko would go with ise but stay under rias. As for ross personally shes my fav to join the harem next and i think she will fall for him this vol since valkyries love heroes(well who doesnt) but she has been starting to show some emotion towards ise such as admiration in 9 and a little jealously i guess in 11 also she will more than likely get back mid vol just in time to see ise come

ReaperxKingx · 2012-04-17, 21:37

Yes my signature picture is from the Artist Miyama-Zero. He is the artist who drawn out the characters from High School DXD and by far the most impressive artist I seen in anime. I am not leaving Rossweisse out of the picture, I am just stating Kuroka has shown more emotions than Rossweisse with Ise.

Clue · 2012-04-17, 21:40

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Originally Posted by Dragonking

hey reaper ive been meaning to ask this wats ur sig mizore right?? anyway back on topic for me i think kuroka does have a good chance of joining the official harem and maybe a part of his future team as a rook since she was a rook before since i dont think koneko would go with ise but stay under rias. As for ross personally shes my fav to join the harem next and i think she will fall for him this vol since valkyries love heroes(well who doesnt) but she has been starting to show some emotion towards ise such as admiration in 9 and a little jealously i guess in 11 also she will more than likely get back mid vol just in time to see ise come

i'm curious as to where ross was jealous? i might have missed it...

Dragonking · 2012-04-17, 21:44

^ o no question kuroka has definitely shown more emotions than ross but to me kuroka seems more that type of not tsundere but a frontal character that doesnt show her true feelings like in 11

Clue@ well it seemed like she was jealous to me when she stated that ise and rias were the bakouple in the life 1 of 11

ReaperxKingx · 2012-04-17, 21:45

I think he meant jealous of Ise's power rather than Ise getting closer to other girls and Rias. Anyhow, I would love for Kuroka to be in Ise's harem. Would add some comedy or scenarios when Koneko is competing against her sister for Ise. Since Nom@n is here, what is your take on this?

Dragonking · 2012-04-17, 21:50

^ nah i meant that she was jealous of ise and rias' relationship plus i agree reaper it would add co... well more comedy scenes with koneko

iheartz · 2012-04-17, 21:51

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Originally Posted by dragonroots

Also, idk if anyone has asked this but does anyone think that Ise is gonna get a mutation piece with his set? Personally i think he's either gonna get a mutation queen or pawn.

Well, the chances of getting a mutation piece have already been stated by the others. However, I would like to point out this excerpt from zzhk's Vol 7 Summary:
"Only a single Rook piece? Since she is a valkyrie, I thought it would have taken more...
Or is it, there is a different compatibility at work here between the Norse and the Evil Pieces?
"Recently there have been news that 'Unused Evil Pieces will undergo changes reflecting the master's growth.' Apparently the creator of the Evil Pieces, Maou Ajuka Beelzebub is known for being fond of adding hidden surprises into his spells and procedures." explains Kiba, reading Ise's mind."

This may imply that the evil pieces scale with the power of the King or the power of the King's group. If this is true, then it may open up the possibility of Ise gaining strong subordinates for a relatively low "piece cost."

Also, I'm still not sure about the whole trading pieces thing. I mean, it kinda makes sense that pieces can only be traded if they have the same rank, but what about their respective power levels? I mean, somebody like Grayfia is probably absurdly stronger than your average queen and could probably 1 vs 16 somebody's entire team. However, is it really possible that Grayfia is only worth "a single Queen" if she is traded with an average queen? There's still a lot of holes in the whole evil pieces concept but hopefully, they'll get explained soon.

Log · 2012-04-17, 21:55

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Originally Posted by iheartz

Well, the chances of getting a mutation piece have already been stated by the others. However, I would like to point out this excerpt from zzhk's Vol 7 Summary:
"Only a single Rook piece? Since she is a valkyrie, I thought it would have taken more...
Or is it, there is a different compatibility at work here between the Norse and the Evil Pieces?
"Recently there have been news that 'Unused Evil Pieces will undergo changes reflecting the master's growth.' Apparently the creator of the Evil Pieces, Maou Ajuka Beelzebub is known for being fond of adding hidden surprises into his spells and procedures." explains Kiba, reading Ise's mind."

This may imply that the evil pieces scale with the power of the King or the power of the King's group. If this is true, then it may open up the possibility of Ise gaining strong subordinates for a relatively low "piece cost"

Depends on if they take Ise's higher mode's (BB, Trianna,CCQ) into account. In base mode he isn't that strong.

ReaperxKingx · 2012-04-17, 21:57

That has yet to be seen Log. Ise haven't fought in his base form since vol 4 so we can't make a clear prediction. He improved a lot since then, my guess if the other abilities has improve so does his base form.

Clue · 2012-04-17, 21:58

i'm pretty sure they would take his strongest mode into account(ccq)
and i doubt we'll see much of triana and bb mode Ise compared to ccq ise...

I agree with Reaper he is constantly sparring with Kiba and Co so i think
that his base form is much stronger especially after training in the mountains ith tanninim
in volume 5.

Log · 2012-04-17, 22:00

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Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

That has yet to be seen Log. Ise haven't fought in his base form since vol 4 so we can't make a clear prediction. He improved a lot since then, my guess if the other abilities has improve so does his base form.

Actually he fought evenly with Rossweisse in normal mode during the peeping incident in vol 9 although both weren't going all out.

Dragonking · 2012-04-17, 22:02

^ well reaper by base form he means the original bg right well if he does then didn't he fight ross in base form in 9 and against the tengus also

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Clue nMe Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Connecticut College	^pawn really? i consider her as being stronger than both asia and ravel... __________________

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ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	Clue whats your reasoning for choosing Rossweisse over Kuroka. Is it because she is Silver hair and a teacher? I see Kuroka becoming a part of Ise's harem more realistically than Rossweisse. Little by little, she went from wanting to kill him in vol 5, trying to seduce him in vol 7, and showing a weak side to him in vol 11. Little by little she is opening up to him, though in a way many would pity Koneko as even Azazel would make fun of her when comparing her to her sister. We could see a whole new side of her if she falls in love with Ise and joins the harem. Dragonroots we already dropped that, we are discussing about Rossweisse and Kuroka. What is you take or feelings of them becoming a part of Ise's harem? __________________

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ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	Kuroka isn't a front line fighter, she is a magic user and is pretty good at it. If you considered when she was on the run from the Underworld, she killed all of her pursuers. I don't see Kuroka becoming a part of Ise's harem a problem. I am favoring it actually, I don't know whether its been foreshadowed, but Kuroka has a hard time trusting people. She has trauma for what she done and experience in her life. Similar situation with Ise, where Ise puts up a strong expression and determine face towards Rias and the girls. In reality he was holding all the pain the whole time, 6 months of living in fear whether or not the girls would treat Ise like Reynalle treated him if he confess. Since both has similar trust issues, though Ise has recovered greatly. Ise helping Kuroka would certainly bring her out of her trauma if she has trauma and falling in love with him afterwards. __________________

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Dragonking Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012	hey reaper ive been meaning to ask this wats ur sig mizore right?? anyway back on topic for me i think kuroka does have a good chance of joining the official harem and maybe a part of his future team as a rook since she was a rook before since i dont think koneko would go with ise but stay under rias. As for ross personally shes my fav to join the harem next and i think she will fall for him this vol since valkyries love heroes(well who doesnt) but she has been starting to show some emotion towards ise such as admiration in 9 and a little jealously i guess in 11 also she will more than likely get back mid vol just in time to see ise come __________________ At the end of an endless quest, you arrive at final evolution! Sublimate your savage soul and show your true form!

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ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	Yes my signature picture is from the Artist Miyama-Zero. He is the artist who drawn out the characters from High School DXD and by far the most impressive artist I seen in anime. I am not leaving Rossweisse out of the picture, I am just stating Kuroka has shown more emotions than Rossweisse with Ise. __________________

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dragonroots Carefree Dragon Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Age: 21	Okay guys who are talking about Campione i suggest you stop, it's off-topic here. @Reaper If Kuroka joins Ise's team i can see her more as a pawn than a rook (since bishops are taken by Ravel and Asia). Also, idk if anyone has asked this but does anyone think that Ise is gonna get a mutation piece with his set? Personally i think he's either gonna get a mutation queen or pawn.

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Dragonking Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012	^ o no question kuroka has definitely shown more emotions than ross but to me kuroka seems more that type of not tsundere but a frontal character that doesnt show her true feelings like in 11 Clue@ well it seemed like she was jealous to me when she stated that ise and rias were the bakouple in the life 1 of 11 __________________ At the end of an endless quest, you arrive at final evolution! Sublimate your savage soul and show your true form!

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ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	I think he meant jealous of Ise's power rather than Ise getting closer to other girls and Rias. Anyhow, I would love for Kuroka to be in Ise's harem. Would add some comedy or scenarios when Koneko is competing against her sister for Ise. Since Nom@n is here, what is your take on this? __________________

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Dragonking Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012	^ nah i meant that she was jealous of ise and rias' relationship plus i agree reaper it would add co... well more comedy scenes with koneko __________________ At the end of an endless quest, you arrive at final evolution! Sublimate your savage soul and show your true form!

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ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	That has yet to be seen Log. Ise haven't fought in his base form since vol 4 so we can't make a clear prediction. He improved a lot since then, my guess if the other abilities has improve so does his base form. __________________

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Clue nMe Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Connecticut College	i'm pretty sure they would take his strongest mode into account(ccq) and i doubt we'll see much of triana and bb mode Ise compared to ccq ise... I agree with Reaper he is constantly sparring with Kiba and Co so i think that his base form is much stronger especially after training in the mountains ith tanninim in volume 5. __________________

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Dragonking Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012	^ well reaper by base form he means the original bg right well if he does then didn't he fight ross in base form in 9 and against the tengus also __________________ At the end of an endless quest, you arrive at final evolution! Sublimate your savage soul and show your true form!