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NaweG · 2012-04-20, 20:40

With the three week break, I almost expect the strip to come back, and we open with Keima at his seat in class. Everyone is buzzing about what happened a couple weeks ago, and over the next several chapters a combination of flashbacks and hints imply how it worked out... but leave us guessing. Then after five or six chapters we notice that two of the girls in Keima's class appear to be pregnant...

Nah... they wouldn't dare...

Valky · 2012-04-20, 21:07

Argh, the cliffhanger .. 3 weeks is damn long ..

What are you planning Keima .. ?

Btw, the mask from that masked guy kinda reminds me of Friend, only, you know, it's eye is vertical ..

Nochgo · 2012-04-21, 00:00

I would've been pretty frustrated if the chapter did not have that bridge scene. Keima should've known that Ayumi would not be satisfied with just one question, and by taking this route we were sure that we wouldn't be getting the 'ending' in this chapter.

This time, I was a little bothered about the translations so I sought out the raws. And I'm glad I did. What Keima said to Ayumi on the bridge: "Ayumi, aishiteru!!"
Now, even for non Japanese speakers, anime watcher may recognize that 'aishiteru' means "I love you," which happens to be a form much stronger than the common counterpart 'suki.' Simply, we can say that if suki = like, then aishiteru = love. On a side note, when Ayumi asked her one question, she used 'suki.' While RHS's translation of 'aishiteru' as 'adore' is not a wrong translation, I still think 'I love you' is better. I feel that RHS had used adore instead of love because we are still not sure if Keima's feelings are romantic or not, as people can still say suki or aishiteru to the people you care about regardless of romantic feelings. But, I'm just gonna call that Keima said it in a romantic way. Because Ayumi deserves it.

SilverSyko · 2012-04-21, 00:18

So in other words, basically Keima's saying "I don't like you; I love you."

Personally though, considering Keima's character, I don't think "love" is really the proper word here. I think a more accurate term would be "cherish".

He's not confessing his romantic feelings for Ayumi, he's just trying to protect her and all the other girls as well. He cherishes them all because they're largely responsible for a lot of his development as a person, and he can't bear to see anything horrible happen to them.

That's just how I see it though. I know the shippers are going to deny my words very hard, but hey, maybe I'll be proven wrong.~

BladeEntity · 2012-04-21, 01:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSyko

So in other words, basically Keima's saying "I don't like you; I love you."

Personally though, considering Keima's character, I don't think "love" is really the proper word here. I think a more accurate term would be "cherish".

He's not confessing his romantic feelings for Ayumi, he's just trying to protect her and all the other girls as well. He cherishes them all because they're largely responsible for a lot of his development as a person, and he can't bear to see anything horrible happen to them.

That's just how I see it though. I know the shippers are going to deny my words very hard, but hey, maybe I'll be proven wrong.~

This would be the best way to describe why he tries so hard for them I guess. IMO to say Keima loves a single person just seems like blasphemy at this point... I normally prefer one couple over an other but the political approach is probably the best for God. But I'm still missing Elsie's charm as a character in these sorts of high tension situations as she has that why of breaking tension which I think would have helped this chapter as all 3 girls are best friends.

~Yami~ · 2012-04-21, 03:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverSyko

So in other words, basically Keima's saying "I don't like you; I love you."

well, I think Keima's saying "I don't like you; but I need you"

(in romantic way of course)

Flower · 2012-04-21, 13:29

Read ch 186 last night.... *sigh*

Hrm ... three weeks vacation during Golden Week, eh?

*gnash*

Feels like Wakaki is totally trolling the readers (who are, of course, delighting in every step of the process while grinding their teeth in frustration, perhaps) ... well, here's a hoping that when he comes back things will resolve themselves soon.

Shadow5YA · 2012-04-21, 14:04

Anyone have the original japanese script for what Keima said? The "I don't love you... I adore you" lines feel a bit odd to me.

Grey · 2012-04-21, 17:32

I was guessing daisuki and aishiteru, but it was suki and aishiteru? Heh. Keima is such a sneak.

I wonder if this is a game line. Or if this is a phrase he could honestly say to most of the heroines in the game and real world.

Shadow5YA · 2012-04-21, 17:54

A fair guess, but I still would really like to know.

Grey · 2012-04-21, 19:04

Maybe you'll get lucky and someone will answer.

I was planning to check the raws but Nochgo already did and found out what I wanted to know.

Nochgo · 2012-04-21, 19:43

Here is what was said:

Ayumi's question: "Watashi no koto, suki?"
Keima's answer: "Suki ja nai."
Keima's line on bridge: "Ayumi, aishiteru!!"

Shadow5YA · 2012-04-21, 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nochgo

Here is what was said:

Ayumi's question: "Watashi no koto, suki?"
Keima's answer: "Suki ja nai."
Keima's line on bridge: "Ayumi, aishiteru!!"

Excellent. Thank you.

~Yami~ · 2012-04-22, 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nochgo

Here is what was said:

Ayumi's question: "Watashi no koto, suki?"
Keima's answer: "Suki ja nai."
Keima's line on bridge: "Ayumi, aishiteru!!"

thumbs up for this translation

Solafighter · 2012-04-22, 03:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nochgo

Here is what was said:

Ayumi's question: "Watashi no koto, suki?"
Keima's answer: "Suki ja nai."
Keima's line on bridge: "Ayumi, aishiteru!!"

Thank you. That makes things clear.

Decagon · 2012-04-22, 04:06

I made a sort of arial-like font of the language the devils/goddesses use. It's on the RHS Kaminomi subforum.

Arturia Polaris · 2012-04-22, 20:32

I picked up this series after seeing the first two seasons on friday. Tore through the manga...

And wow. I mean... The series seemed so lighthearted, I did NOT expect the whole turn into a life or death situation.

And god damnit this cliff hanger will kill me.

Really enjoyed the series so far.

As to who will win Keima in the end... My vote goes for Haqua. Possibly the most under-rated of the characters... But I also really like Kanon and Ayumi... and Tenri...

God, so many characters....

ID555 · 2012-04-22, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nochgo

Here is what was said:

Ayumi's question: "Watashi no koto, suki?"
Keima's answer: "Suki ja nai."
Keima's line on bridge: "Ayumi, aishiteru!!"

Thanks, that clears up the confusion.

So in the end, he's still in 'conquer mode' with Ayumi?

BladeEntity · 2012-04-23, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by ID555

Thanks, that clears up the confusion.

So in the end, he's still in 'conquer mode' with Ayumi?

How odd it would be if that is Keima being honest with her.

Paranoid Android · 2012-04-23, 10:31

Waah another stall chapter. I wonder what Tenri said about Keima

2012-04-20, 20:40	Link #6961
NaweG Author of Camp Handiba Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Age: 51	With the three week break, I almost expect the strip to come back, and we open with Keima at his seat in class. Everyone is buzzing about what happened a couple weeks ago, and over the next several chapters a combination of flashbacks and hints imply how it worked out... but leave us guessing. Then after five or six chapters we notice that two of the girls in Keima's class appear to be pregnant... Nah... they wouldn't dare... __________________ My Really Crazy Stuff here. Main Workhorse at Impatient Scan Team

2012-04-20, 21:07	Link #6962
Valky Harbinger of Sorrow Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Stamford Bridge	Argh, the cliffhanger .. 3 weeks is damn long .. What are you planning Keima .. ? Btw, the mask from that masked guy kinda reminds me of Friend, only, you know, it's eye is vertical .. __________________

2012-04-21, 00:00	Link #6963
Nochgo iceman Scanlator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: CO, USA Age: 24	I would've been pretty frustrated if the chapter did not have that bridge scene. Keima should've known that Ayumi would not be satisfied with just one question, and by taking this route we were sure that we wouldn't be getting the 'ending' in this chapter. This time, I was a little bothered about the translations so I sought out the raws. And I'm glad I did. What Keima said to Ayumi on the bridge: "Ayumi, aishiteru!!" Now, even for non Japanese speakers, anime watcher may recognize that 'aishiteru' means "I love you," which happens to be a form much stronger than the common counterpart 'suki.' Simply, we can say that if suki = like, then aishiteru = love. On a side note, when Ayumi asked her one question, she used 'suki.' While RHS's translation of 'aishiteru' as 'adore' is not a wrong translation, I still think 'I love you' is better. I feel that RHS had used adore instead of love because we are still not sure if Keima's feelings are romantic or not, as people can still say suki or aishiteru to the people you care about regardless of romantic feelings. But, I'm just gonna call that Keima said it in a romantic way. Because Ayumi deserves it. __________________ Korean-Manhwa My Anime List

2012-04-21, 00:18	Link #6964
SilverSyko The Anti-Otaku Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 21	So in other words, basically Keima's saying "I don't like you; I love you." Personally though, considering Keima's character, I don't think "love" is really the proper word here. I think a more accurate term would be "cherish". He's not confessing his romantic feelings for Ayumi, he's just trying to protect her and all the other girls as well. He cherishes them all because they're largely responsible for a lot of his development as a person, and he can't bear to see anything horrible happen to them. That's just how I see it though. I know the shippers are going to deny my words very hard, but hey, maybe I'll be proven wrong.~ __________________

2012-04-21, 13:29	Link #6967
Flower In a 1/2 broken music box Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sitting in a chair, eyes closed and holding a sunflower....	Read ch 186 last night.... sigh Hrm ... three weeks vacation during Golden Week, eh? gnash Feels like Wakaki is totally trolling the readers (who are, of course, delighting in every step of the process while grinding their teeth in frustration, perhaps) ... well, here's a hoping that when he comes back things will resolve themselves soon. __________________ Interested in the Tamayura Series...?

2012-04-21, 14:04	Link #6968
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Anyone have the original japanese script for what Keima said? The "I don't love you... I adore you" lines feel a bit odd to me.

2012-04-21, 17:32	Link #6969
Grey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	I was guessing daisuki and aishiteru, but it was suki and aishiteru? Heh. Keima is such a sneak. I wonder if this is a game line. Or if this is a phrase he could honestly say to most of the heroines in the game and real world.

2012-04-21, 17:54	Link #6970
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	A fair guess, but I still would really like to know.

2012-04-21, 19:04	Link #6971
Grey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Maybe you'll get lucky and someone will answer. I was planning to check the raws but Nochgo already did and found out what I wanted to know.

2012-04-21, 19:43	Link #6972
Nochgo iceman Scanlator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: CO, USA Age: 24	Here is what was said: Ayumi's question: "Watashi no koto, suki?" Keima's answer: "Suki ja nai." Keima's line on bridge: "Ayumi, aishiteru!!" __________________ Korean-Manhwa My Anime List

2012-04-22, 04:06	Link #6976
Decagon This was meaningless Scanlator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Not on this site no more. Age: 25	I made a sort of arial-like font of the language the devils/goddesses use. It's on the RHS Kaminomi subforum. __________________

2012-04-22, 20:32	Link #6977
Arturia Polaris Writing a Visual Novel Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Argentina	I picked up this series after seeing the first two seasons on friday. Tore through the manga... And wow. I mean... The series seemed so lighthearted, I did NOT expect the whole turn into a life or death situation. And god damnit this cliff hanger will kill me. Really enjoyed the series so far. As to who will win Keima in the end... My vote goes for Haqua. Possibly the most under-rated of the characters... But I also really like Kanon and Ayumi... and Tenri... God, so many characters.... __________________ Arturia's Writing Den My fanfiction works include: Tari Tari: Past and Present, As the Gentle Breeze Blows Little Busters: Bird's Song Sword Art Online: Vanquishing of the Laughing Coffin

2012-04-23, 10:31	Link #6980
Paranoid Android Underweight Food Hoarder Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Kitch-Water and T.O., Canada Age: 22	Waah another stall chapter. I wonder what Tenri said about Keima