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Old 2012-04-25, 21:02   Link #941
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i would think so...

unless she gets a powerup in 5 vol, from being with the MC.

Also Sandy
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Am i getting confused?
That's Ash Rendoll, the Demon King. Or his left over memory. Kamito based his female alias off of him as a joke.
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Old 2012-04-25, 21:05   Link #942
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1. The Dark Spirit King is called Ren Ashdoll, not Ren Arsbell. Kamito's alias is called Ren Ashbell.
2.It's Nepentus Roa, a.k.a 'Conciouness of the Dark Spirit King' that was destroyed by Kamito using sixteen consequetive strikes.
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Old 2012-04-25, 21:08   Link #943
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Ofc she is the meganekko...the one who teases kamito right?? What's her role in the storyline?
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Old 2012-04-25, 21:34   Link #944
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1. The Dark Spirit King is called Ren Ashdoll, not Ren Arsbell. Kamito's alias is called Ren Ashbell.
2.It's Nepentus Roa, a.k.a 'Conciouness of the Dark Spirit King' that was destroyed by Kamito using sixteen consequetive strikes.
All these namesakes sure are confusing...Restia is wielded by the current "Ren", right? So did she go to Roa after it was bought back?
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Ha...thinking she can seduce Kamito...she has much too learn but now that she joined the harem they will teach her...so were the first group Kamito faced their's??
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Old 2012-04-25, 21:44   Link #945
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All these namesakes sure are confusing...Restia is wielded by the current "Ren", right? So did she go to Roa after it was bought back?
SHe was wielded by Roa. She was never wielded by the imposter.

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Ha...thinking she can seduce Kamito...she has much too learn but now that she joined the harem they will teach her...so were the first group Kamito faced their's??
My impression of that scene was it seemed more of an actual rape scene.
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Old 2012-04-25, 21:44   Link #946
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All these namesakes sure are confusing...Restia is wielded by the current "Ren", right? So did she go to Roa after it was bought back?


Ha...thinking she can seduce Kamito...she has much too learn but now that she joined the harem they will teach her...so were the first group Kamito faced their's??
No. The first team Scarlet Team fight is from Balr...something country. They are used by Restia for defeat the Scarlet Team (Restia give the information that Kamito can't use spirit to all teams). And Leonora team watching the scarlet team first battle to accumulate the Scarlet Team battle potencial (Kamito can defeat 1 of 3 high-level combat). Much make Leonora possesive and want to defeat Kamito.

Ohh! Kamito though that Leonora Chest as dangerous bio weapon and the fact that Leonora always not put underwear as crisis
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Old 2012-04-25, 21:45   Link #947
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SHe was wielded by Roa. She was never wielded by the imposter.

My impression of that scene was it seemed more of an actual rape scene.
Hmm...so who is the imposter's spirit, do we know?

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No. The first team Scarlet Team fight is from Balr...something country. They are used by Restia for defeat the Scarlet Team (Restia give the information that Kamito can't use spirit to all teams). And Leonora team watching the scarlet team first battle to accumulate the Scarlet Team battle potencial (Kamito can defeat 1 of 3 high-level combat). Much make Leonora possesive and want to defeat Kamito.

Ohh! Kamito though that Leonora Chest as dangerous bio weapon and the fact that Leonora always not put underwear as crisis
Haa...she seems hilarious
Darthfanta here's a thought, if I read more about her, I might claim her and leave Ellis to you
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Old 2012-04-25, 21:59   Link #948
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Hmm...so who is the imposter's spirit, do we know?
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Old 2012-04-25, 22:08   Link #949
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Maybe it's just me, but wasn't Ellis stronger than Claire?
Ellis is CQC and air battle (she can fly). So, her position is Vanguard

Claire is middle and back up member. She is also the brain of the team (she is the smartest in the school) and great commander(in the battle, everyone always listen to Claire command) and can immediately decide strategy.

Fianna is supporter with her knight spirit that great for defense (her attack is low). She can hold 2 tyrano spirit from Leonora team by herself. She also can buft the team spirit by Kagura dance (she former priestess after all) that can multyple the strenght of everyone spirit. Her position also in the middle with Clare.

Rinslet as sniper has position in the back. With great accuracy and ice element, she can capture any enemy (she cannot do well in the forest because of tree).

Kamito is the same as Ellis, Vanguard. she also the sensor and radar of the team (because everyone already know that Kamito former assasin past, they thrust Kamito's intuition). He is also the ace (finisher and the one that will hold enemy ace). Seldom, he become decoy to make time for Claire to develop strategy.
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Old 2012-04-25, 22:13   Link #950
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Ellis is CQC and air battle (she can fly). So, her position is Vanguard

Claire is middle and back up member. She is also the brain of the team (she is the smartest in the school) and great commander(in the battle, everyone always listen to Claire command) and can immediately decide strategy.

Fianna is supporter with her knight spirit that great for defense (her attack is low). She can hold 2 tyrano spirit from Leonora team by herself. She also can buft the team spirit by Kagura dance (she former priestess after all) that can multyple the strenght of everyone spirit. Her position also in the middle with Clare.

Rinslet as sniper has position in the back. With great accuracy and ice element, she can capture any enemy (she cannot do well in the forest because of tree).

Kamito is the same as Ellis, Vanguard. she also the sensor and radar of the team (because everyone already know that Kamito former assasin past, they thrust Kamito's intuition). He is also the ace (finisher and the one that will hold enemy ace). Seldom, he become decoy to make time for Claire to develop strategy.
Surpirsed that Claire is the strategist. I always assumed that Kimito>Claire in terms of strategy because of his more cooler mind as opposed to Claire's hotheaded nature.
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Old 2012-04-25, 22:23   Link #951
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Surpirsed that Claire is the strategist. I always assumed that Kimito>Claire in terms of strategy because of his more cooler mind as opposed to Claire's hotheaded nature.
I thought so as well.
And surprised about Ellis flying, has she always been able to do that?
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Old 2012-04-25, 22:44   Link #952
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Yup. Ellis has been able to fly since the start.

Claire is strategist because she is the team captain and plays a mid field position. Also, she is well versed in combat theory.

On the otherhand, Kamito has little to no group combat experience and usually ends up brute forcing his way through a fight on his own due to his skills in 1v 1 combat as an assassin.
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Old 2012-04-25, 22:46   Link #953
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Yup. Ellis has been able to fly since the start.

Claire is strategist because she is the team captain and plays a mid field position. Also, she is well versed in combat theory.

On the otherhand, Kamito has little to no group combat experience and usually ends up brute forcing his way through a fight on his own due to his skills in 1v 1 combat as an assassin.
Wasn't Kamito the team captain? Or did I miss something again.
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Old 2012-04-25, 22:53   Link #954
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Wasn't Kamito the team captain? Or did I miss something again.
Well, it's called Team Scarlet, so I think Claire is captain.

Doesn't change th fact that Kamito is in charge, though

I think she was made captain because she is a better strategist. When he had Restia, all Kamito did was overwhelm with raw power and skill.
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Old 2012-04-25, 22:55   Link #955
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Plus, the tournament three years ago was 1 vs 1 instead of team.
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Old 2012-04-25, 23:05   Link #956
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Initially Team Scarlet had only two people. Claire and Kamito. Since Claire thinks she's the master and Kamito is her servant there was no way Claire would allow her servant to be the captain lol. Then others like Fianna, Ellis and Rinslet join in afterwards. So it was unavoidable that Claire is the captain. Though Claires shows great stratergy and is individually strong compared to other girls in her team. Probably the only girl in her team who can beat Claire is Ellis.
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Old 2012-04-25, 23:10   Link #957
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Though Claires shows great stratergy and is individually strong compared to other girls in her team. Probably the only girl in her team who can beat Claire is Ellis.
Even though Claire is the strategist, there were multiple instances in the novel (pretty much the climax of each volume) where brute strength was needed over strategy. There are several instances where no amount of strategizing was going to compensate for the difference in fighting power.
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Old 2012-04-25, 23:17   Link #958
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Oh yeah. You are right. Her strategies works initially for the formation but they were put in a tight situation by people like Ellis's sister and Ash Rendol thingy in volume 6.
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Old 2012-04-25, 23:17   Link #959
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Actually Rinslet could probably down Claire as well due elemental compatibilities. In this universe, water Pokemon, I mean spirits, are strong vs fire type. Rather tan the other way around.

Overall, the team is actually garbage.

Ellis can only fight straight up. She is too honest and falls for feints and sneaky tactics like some naive child.

Fianna has 0 combat ability and can only deploy her knight as a shield against AOE attacks.

Claire is all talk and no do. A huge liability that digs herself into a hole with her tactics that almost never work. Then she gets Kamito all injured when she requires saving.

Rinslet has no role. Long range attacks that keep missing plus the freezing effect that everyone at the level of the blade dance is immune to.

Kamito is THE TEAM. He is both attacker and defender. And usually resolves any battle through overwhelming sword skills. He can't do anything fancy yet. So far he just powers up Est and stabs people in the chest.

The girls' function in battle is to distract and take long enough to lose so Kamito can stab the enemies individually.
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Old 2012-04-25, 23:21   Link #960
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Wow...and the "team" hasn't looked back at the past rounds to see how they can be beaten
How many teams are left going to the next round?
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