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Old 2012-05-05, 05:11   Link #1261
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And Guilty Crown. Do I have to blacklist Yoshino from adaptations too?

Butterfly Queen is alive and well already? Give me a break. Looks like my fear of last week's episode being terrible was right and it continues to have these asspull plot twists. I mean how the hell is she alive and well after effectively hinted to be either in a coma or paralyzed. She got hit by a friggin car and was bleeding pretty damn badly (not to mention the amount of bones she would have broken).
Well they did mention nanomachines earlier? Those are supposed to be HAX healing right?
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I wasn't planning on posting but I think I'll have to because a lot of this episode felt rushed and I need clarification on a few thing:

1) So did Taku actually cheat in his competitions and think it was okay because Acceleration is his power anyway?

2) What's this about Taku's parent? Apparently she's captain of the Kendo club and a close aid to the Blue king? I thought the captains of clubs tended to be students also. And I also thought Burst Linkers could only be at most 15 years old.

3) What exactly is Taku's hate of Haru based on? Does he fees inferior be cause he knows his girlfriend likes Haru more than him, and so he convinces himself that he's actually superior in the real world? Or did he think he was superior to begin with and finding out that his girlfriend liked Haru more made him feel inferior?

4) Why does Haru think his "You're better in the real world and I'm better in Accel Wolrd" reasoning think it will work on Taku when Taku's hatred is based on his belief that he's lost to Haru in the real world?

5) Taku said he betrayed his own Legion and the Burst Linker rules. How so?

If any of these are going to be explained in the next episode then just say that. No spoilers.

Anyway the episode was okayish. Like others have said, this episode went out of it's way to make Taku look as pathetic as possible which was irritating, but the fight itself was pretty sweet. The choice of music when Haru was pouring his heart to a comatose KYH was just terrible though. That harmonica made the whole scene look narmish.

And I hate that stupid yellow avatar with his laptop. His voice is just really bad and his use as Mr Exposition make the fights look like cliché shonen fights.
IIRC none of the 5 will be answered in the next episode (then again, the anime might change a few things from the LNs... some characters shouldn't even be popping up for a few more 'seasons' yet if we're strictly going by LN timeline, but I see them in the preview )
Just in case you might want to avoid the answers I give in the spoiler?
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Old 2012-05-05, 05:11   Link #1262
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You will never know by the end of the two cours. That much, I can guarantee you. Some fans are actually speculating it to be either 'Yuuki' or 'Yuki' which brings in some cross speculations with SAO, which I'm currently rejecting.
Man, how could you reject Sword Art Online ?
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Old 2012-05-05, 05:30   Link #1263
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And I hate that stupid yellow avatar with his laptop. His voice is just really bad and his use as Mr Exposition make the fights look like cliché shonen fights.
His voice is bad because he is not a professional seiyuu but the author of the LN himself.
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Old 2012-05-05, 05:35   Link #1264
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Yeah they already mentioning that nanomachine, would be disappointing if the future world that so computerized that you having access to computer anywhere but not having ultra HAX medical treatment right?
What the hell that those scientist/engineer prioritizing then lol.
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Man... Reading comprehension please.
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Old 2012-05-05, 05:39   Link #1265
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Man... Reading comprehension please.
I'm just talking to larethian, not you.
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Old 2012-05-05, 05:48   Link #1266
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Well...she is unscathed after a mere 24 hours
She's still in the hospital and she will be there for a long time but the critical period where she was put into that capsule thing or chamber was to hasten her recovery with nanomachine repairing the damage tissue. She was out of danger zone but still injured and can't much do anything for the moment. Well at least she already recovered from coma and has regained consciousness.

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I wasn't planning on posting but I think I'll have to because a lot of this episode felt rushed and I need clarification on a few thing:

1) So did Taku actually cheat in his competitions and think it was okay because Acceleration is his power anyway?

2) What's this about Taku's parent? Apparently she's captain of the Kendo club and a close aid to the Blue king? I thought the captains of clubs tended to be students also. And I also thought Burst Linkers could only be at most 15 years old.

3) What exactly is Taku's hate of Haru based on? Does he feel inferior because he knows his girlfriend likes Haru more than him, and so he convinces himself that he's actually superior in the real world? Or did he think he was superior to begin with and finding out that his girlfriend liked Haru more made him feel inferior?

4) Why does Haru think his "You're better in the real world and I'm better in Accel Wolrd" reasoning think it will work on Taku when Taku's hatred is based on his belief that he's lost to Haru in the real world?

5) Taku said he betrayed his own Legion and the Burst Linker rules. How so?

If any of these are going to be explained in the next episode then just say that. No spoilers.

Anyway the episode was okayish. Like others have said, this episode went out of it's way to make Taku look as pathetic as possible which was irritating, but the fight itself was pretty sweet. The choice of music when Haru was pouring his heart to a comatose KYH was just terrible though. That harmonica made the whole scene look narmish.

And I hate that stupid yellow avatar with his laptop. His voice is just really bad and his use as Mr Exposition make the fights look like cliché shonen fights.

The anime really rushed things. And tend to explain it in the shortest time and skip the more detail explanation. And nope, it's not spoiler well except for the tactics of the other legions but the blue legions way of things should be revealed when Taku attacks Haru.

1. Taku did cheat. He uses the acceleration ability to win it. if you read flere's post about this episode then it explains a bit which skips between the fight of Taku and Haru. But I will explain a bit further later on.

2. Parent in accel world. Parent is the one who gives you the program. It's like KYH and Haru's relationship. Parent and Child. And further more explanation about the relationship will be spoiler because it will eventually explained. And the parent of Taku in Accel world is the capt of kendo club. Which gives you feeling that kendo club is shaddy one.

3. His hate stems with Chiyu taking care of Haru to much. The feeling of inferiority and superiority complex starts with that.

4. Haru's reasoning works because Taku is trying to prove his the best in front of Chiyu.

5. spoilers. Each region just had their own tactics and way of fighting. Just like how colors had their own characteristics and weaknesses.
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now to further explain Taku's problem with Haru. Taku believes that Haru was holding their relationship down the road because Chiyu tends to take care of him more. As for Chiyu's side she takes care of Haru because he was being bullied and Haru was avoiding them when they start going out and from the previews episode. Chiyu wants the three of them to be stayed closed forever. It's like a triangle with equal angles. But Haru starts to avoid his 2 best friends which deforms the triangle. Chiyu tried to repair the friendship by following Haru which makes her distant from Taku. Taku makes a move of going into a prestigious school. Which is also good for him. And Taku's parents are strict ones. You know the type who wants their son a perfect son type of parents. Taku strive to be the best in all ways from studying to kendo. To impress Chiyu and make her see that he is better than Haru so spend more time on him and ditch Haru. And there goes the captain of Kendo club. Giving Taku the "forbidden fruit" The Brain Burst program. Which corrupt Taku. He used it in his studies and in kendo match. He become the best but he become corrupted. Just to impress Chiyu. And Haru take notice of this in the middle of their fight when Taku and Haru are ranting about their feelings. Haru felt that Taku change, he felt that he become corrupted by the power of the accel world.

KYH explains that cyan pile was frantic when he was chasing her and reason to this is because Taku is using his burst points on kendo matches. And the nearing competition doesn't help it. He needs to recover his points and stuck up more for the tournament. Which makes him lucky when he discover black lotus. Thus he attempts to attack her. Most are already explain by KYH on why her secrets are still remain despite being found out by cyan pile.
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Old 2012-05-05, 06:10   Link #1267
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I've noticed that usually both characters shout burst link at the same time and enter the accel world. However, shouldn't it be the case that only one person needs to accelerate, and everyone around also will accelerate at the same time automatically? That is what happened with Haru the first time he entered battle. Hence, I believe both people shouting burst link is redundent.

Also, when someone else burst links and you get pulled in, do you also lose your burst link points as well? Or does only the person that initiates it loses points? Either way, I won't think it matters in the long run since they'll end up having more burst points than they'll know what to do with.
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Old 2012-05-05, 06:36   Link #1268
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However, shouldn't it be the case that only one person needs to accelerate, and everyone around also will accelerate at the same time automatically?
Not everyone: auto-accelerated only duel-opponent and "watching list" of both.
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Old 2012-05-05, 06:39   Link #1269
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They shout it both because Taku's target is black lotus for challenge. He is not challenging Haru. While Haru's target is Taku.

The one who initiate the duel lost the burst point.
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Old 2012-05-05, 06:55   Link #1270
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Thanks for the replies. I noticed it since everytime Haru goes into burst link, both he and the other person shouts it. He does it with Kuroyukihime all the time.

With the latest episode, at the end, I also noticed that a patch was sent through the Burst Link program. Does this mean that they have moderators, or maybe the creators themselves are observing the game? Then you get further into it, and would it be likely that the creators are participating themselves?

As for the purpose of the program, I think the message at the end is that it shows how one can overcome all obstacles to achieve greatness, with betrayal along the way.
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Old 2012-05-05, 06:58   Link #1271
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the creators and moderators are all mystery

we don't even know if they exist or are they even playing or observing the game at all and that's why KYH aim was to become level 10 so she can meet them.
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Old 2012-05-05, 08:17   Link #1272
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What? Why is that? Is her name a deep plot point in the novel's story? Or is it just the author's way of trolling?

Finally Kuroyuki-hime comes out of hiding and shows her true form once again to the accelerated world. But somehow, I am not fond of the name Nega Nebulous. It sounds like a contagious disease


I don't think it'll be a good idea for Haru to start a harem, given Kuroyuki-hime's apparent personality. She seems she can turn into a crazy-type of girl when she's jealous.
Because it's not yet revealed even in the novels. Regarding the details of speculations, can't say here. As to whether is it the author's way of trolling, one can only speculate.


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My statement may indeed be ambiguous, but I'm not rejecting SAO, rather, I'm rejecting the speculations of who KYH is related to. Enough of the somewhat off-topic discussion ^^
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Old 2012-05-05, 08:18   Link #1273
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Butterfly Queen is alive and well already? Give me a break. Looks like my fear of last week's episode being terrible was right and it continues to have these asspull plot twists. I mean how the hell is she alive and well after effectively hinted to be either in a coma or paralyzed. She got hit by a friggin car and was bleeding pretty damn badly (not to mention the amount of bones she would have broken).
One wants to call Yoshino out on this cause this is one of his favorite "twists", but they covered this base last episode with the whole capsule thing and the mention of nano-machines and accelerated healing. I give them a break on this one cause it was properly established beforehand and not just like one of the many Gai from Guilty Crown situations where he's just okay because and able to walk away from large explosions and death except when he can't.

That said I'm starting to understand more and more why Yoshino was chosen or chose to take a part in this show. He practically lives for this sort of material. I have a question for novel readers though, was Haru on this level of moping and self-effacing or is this just Yoshino going overboard with his Yuki Kaji voiced lead character again? I have to admit it's starting to feel like Haru is doing that two steps forward one and a half steps back thing with his progress in being less weak-willed to the point where it starts to feel like a retread and I definitely don't want a repeat of some of the other Kaji/Yoshino characters I've seen in recent years. So that's my concern going forward.

As it stands this is also why I'm okay with KYH being brought back within an episode even though I was curious to see what one without her in the thick of things looks like. The show doesn't really have the same luster without her there to get Haru to smarten up when he gets a little too mopey.

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And the whole Taku and MC battle was so "shoneny" it was hilariously bad. As was the "making up". Looks like I was expecting wrong things again . I'll give this one more episode. If it continues to have such "shonen" elements and asspull plot twists then I think I'll stop watching it.
You can criticize the fight choreography, you can criticize the animation of the fight, you can even criticize the attacks and their effect, but I fail to see how calling something "shonen" is a fair, valid or even real criticism unless you have an outright hatred of all things Shonen related in which case you ought to have known what you were getting into here. I mean it made it expressly clear that this show was going to have a shonen action feel to it from day 1 so.....yeah sounds like you'll be dropping this then.

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Old 2012-05-05, 08:27   Link #1274
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As I suspected, burst linking had nary to do with KYH's health. Heck, she was all fine and dandy in the accel world, so Haru's intentions from protecting her from losing were pretty much all in vain.

And lol at Taku. So jealous because even now Chiyu gives both of them equal attention, when he wants her to all himself. But who can blame him? He basically NTR'ed himself with the backdoor.

But you know what really reminded me of Taku? This video, particularly at around the 2:20 mark.



Lesson of the day for 'playing to win': don't celebrate your victory until the match has truly ended. But considering Taku's superiority attitude towards Haru, I guess it's in his character to gloat prematurely.
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Old 2012-05-05, 08:29   Link #1275
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And lol at Taku. So jealous because even now Chiyu gives both of them equal attention, when he wants her to all himself. But who can blame him? He basically NTR'ed himself with the backdoor.
Lol no, not equal.
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Old 2012-05-05, 08:40   Link #1276
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As I suspected, burst linking had nary to do with KYH's health. Heck, she was all fine and dandy in the accel world, so Haru's intentions from protecting her from losing were pretty much all in vain.

And lol at Taku. So jealous because even now Chiyu gives both of them equal attention, when he wants her to all himself. But who can blame him? He basically NTR'ed himself with the backdoor.

But you know what really reminded me of Taku? This video, particularly at around the 2:20 mark.



Lesson of the day for 'playing to win': don't celebrate your victory until the match has truly ended. But considering Taku's superiority attitude towards Haru, I guess it's in his character to gloat prematurely.

KYH was practically in coma for the whole of the match. If Taku manages to challenge KYH, he would be standing in front of her bed in Cyan Pile while having a free kill. She was most likely burst linked as she has Silver Crow on her watchlist.
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Old 2012-05-05, 08:56   Link #1277
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Lol no, not equal.
Far from equal actually. Like I said before, in episode 4 they failed to mention a very important part from the manga (don't remember if its in the LN as well but doubt it isn't).
Basically Chiyu admitted to Haru that she only accepted Taku's confession because Haru pushed her to it. She also implies that had Haru confessed first she would accept. So basically, she needed Haru to push her into accepting Taku's confession but wouldn't need any pushing to accept Haru's.
She simply accepted Taku's confession because both her and Haru believed he would break off from the group should he be rejected. Fearing this Chiyu accepted (as we've seen before she really wants the 3 to stick together forever) but since these were her reasons and not love (not completely) she still pays a lot more attention to Haru than to Taku. When they are at school she worries only about Haru and when she's with Taku she seems distant from him because she's also thinking about Haru. It is quite understandable that Taku would be pretty damn jealous and pissed off about the whole situation.
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My MLP avatar needs a break, so I will snag this one up unless someone else wants it.

Back to the episode, it was kinda of surprised that one of the poster say that this episode was boring, please tell me what was boring about it, outside of some minor changes, it follow both the LN and Manga to a tee.

Now the Blue Knight coming out early, now that is a new one. I like to see what is going to happen with that.
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Old 2012-05-05, 09:02   Link #1279
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This part is one of my favorite parts in the manga so far but I was kind of disappointed with this episode. Pacing was off and I find the BGM rather unimpressive.

As for the changes they made... although the thing with Taku admitting defeat and letting go of Haru to accept his loss was dramatic IMO it would still be better if Taku didn't let go and have Haru his internal monologue that he will believe in his decision to trust Taku again cause you know that internal monologue is supposed to emphasize his character growth.
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Old 2012-05-05, 09:20   Link #1280
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Very interesting series. I hope we get to find out what sort of "insecurities" Snow Black has, the frustrations and sense of inferiority that led to that form. Actually, I'd like to know the meaning behind the forms all the different duel avatars take. I'm a little concerned, because an avatar like that is pretty extreme in some ways. I've heard plenty of times about what it means when a child creates an image of herself without hands; replacing them with blades seems to coplement that pretty well.
And when/if Chiyu becomse a Burster, I'd be curious about the meaning behind hers as well...

One other question, from someone who hasn't read the LN and little of the manga: is Snow-Black's true name ever revealed, or are we left knowing her only as Princess Snow Black? That ending line of "My name is..." is kind of frustrating.
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