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Old 2012-05-02, 03:54   Link #3481
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That's a Realta Nua-only ending and is called Last Ending.
Did they actually meet? Because in my understanding they woke up from their sleep and then saw each other.
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Old 2012-05-02, 04:28   Link #3482
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Did they actually meet? Because in my understanding they woke up from their sleep and then saw each other.
Saber is waiting in Avalon for him and he appears there. They do meet.
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Old 2012-05-02, 08:35   Link #3483
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That's a Realta Nua-only ending and is called Last Ending.
No. It's Last Episode.
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Old 2012-05-03, 23:29   Link #3484
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What is the deal with the Holy Grail war?

From what I remember from F/SN it is a false thing and doesn't truly grant wishes.

But then shouldn't the previous participants of the war discovered this and halted future generations from participating?

I haven't seen F/SN in awhile so perhaps my memory is off.
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Old 2012-05-06, 05:37   Link #3485
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How strong are servants relative to say the 27 Dead Apostles, Arcueid, Shiki, etc.? The wiki says Aoko is capable of fighting a servant (except caster... why? Wouldn't that end up being a mage vs mage battle?) but even Arcueid does not want to fight Aoko... so how strong are servants?

Is this article even serious? http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Neco-Arc being the second strongest? Isn't she a joke character?
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Old 2012-05-06, 05:48   Link #3486
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I recall saying somewhere that Arceuid was one step above servants, Tohno Shiki was on the same level of Shirou and Ryougi Shiki and Ciel could defend against the average servant but not much else.

This is just speculation but I think most Dead Apostles on are either Ghouls or Living Dead and are pretty weak (like what we saw in the most recent Fate/Zero episode). The ones that develop into vampires are probably on the level of weak servant, but I'd say the ten highest of the 27 Dead Apostles are on the level of servants, if not higher. I'll try to find the right quotes if I can...


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Is this article even serious? http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Neco-Arc being the second strongest? Isn't she a joke character?
Yeah that's just a joke:
"Q: Who's the top three strongest characters?
A: Magical Amber, Neco Arc, and Tiger."
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Old 2012-05-06, 09:02   Link #3487
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How strong are servants relative to say the 27 Dead Apostles, Arcueid, Shiki, etc.? The wiki says Aoko is capable of fighting a servant (except caster... why? Wouldn't that end up being a mage vs mage battle?) but even Arcueid does not want to fight Aoko... so how strong are servants?

Is this article even serious? http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Neco-Arc being the second strongest? Isn't she a joke character?
Can't go by a wiki. They take a joke from an interview and play it as fact.
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Old 2012-05-06, 09:54   Link #3488
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... I'd say the ten highest of the 27 Dead Apostles are on the level of servants...
The first thing I thought of when reading this sentence was ORT lol >.>

In general, I'm pretty sure Servants are stronger than Dead Apostles, but to be completely honest you have to take it on a case by case basis. The difference in strength between each of the dead apostles is rather immense (even if you don't include ORT), just like the difference in strength between Servants. So there will be vampires that are much stronger than Servants and there will be Servants that are much stronger than Vampires, you really can't say one class is stronger than another.

I imagine Aoko wouldn't do well against Caster because even if she is a Sorcerer, Caster (atleast F/SN caster) is a magus from the Age of the Gods, so her common magic is almost on the level on Sorcery already. The way they make it sound in F/SN there are no modern magi who could even compare to Caster, let alone beat her, so its understandable why Aoko would have difficulty with her.
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Old 2012-05-08, 04:16   Link #3489
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Old 2012-05-08, 13:00   Link #3490
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Old 2012-05-12, 03:19   Link #3491
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So Servants are governed by the "God" of the Nasuverse, Akasha a.k.a. "The Root". I say "God" but even though Akasha seems to be some automatic system with no sentience, it seems to be the origin of all things that exceeds time and parallel worlds.

In that case that means the Servants are demi-gods so the fact that they're stronger than Dead Apostles or Types doesn't seem to far fetched. But what about the other gods of religions like Zeus, Ra, Odin, Jesus, etc.? Do they actually exist?
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Old 2012-05-12, 03:29   Link #3492
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They seem to exist since they're present in the legends of the Servants we know but I don't recall any actually being shown. I've thought about that myself and I think Nasu is just trying to avoid that issue altogether.
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Old 2012-05-12, 04:12   Link #3493
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So Servants are governed by the "God" of the Nasuverse, Akasha a.k.a. "The Root". I say "God" but even though Akasha seems to be some automatic system with no sentience, it seems to be the origin of all things that exceeds time and parallel worlds.

In that case that means the Servants are demi-gods so the fact that they're stronger than Dead Apostles or Types doesn't seem to far fetched. But what about the other gods of religions like Zeus, Ra, Odin, Jesus, etc.? Do they actually exist?
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Old 2012-05-12, 20:24   Link #3494
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So Servants are governed by the "God" of the Nasuverse, Akasha a.k.a. "The Root". I say "God" but even though Akasha seems to be some automatic system with no sentience, it seems to be the origin of all things that exceeds time and parallel worlds.

In that case that means the Servants are demi-gods so the fact that they're stronger than Dead Apostles or Types doesn't seem to far fetched. But what about the other gods of religions like Zeus, Ra, Odin, Jesus, etc.? Do they actually exist?
who said servants are stronger then Dead Apostles? it takes SEVEN Servants to contain The Beast of Gaia.
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Old 2012-05-12, 21:05   Link #3495
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That's a Dead Apostle ANCESTOR.

It's a whole TIER up from Dead Apostles.

Also, Primate Murder is atypical amongst Dead Apostle Ancestors. Normally Servants go neck-to-neck with them. The special ones are the single digit Dead Apostle Ancestors.
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Old 2012-05-12, 21:26   Link #3496
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Umm... Guys may I ask? Which ending in the VN is much better for you(I've spoiled myself already, but planned to play it anyway)? I'm just asking your opinions. This just caught my interest since I've read F/Z in B-T, found it to be epic. Forgot to tell, the character that caught my attention is Kirei(F/Z version).
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Old 2012-05-12, 22:43   Link #3497
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If you like Kirei in F/Z, then you would love Heaven's Feel Route.

It's basically Kotomine doing his thing.
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Old 2012-05-12, 23:37   Link #3498
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You should play through all of them.
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Old 2012-05-13, 02:24   Link #3499
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Yes, I will definitely going to play it! In terms of ending, if you are Shiro, which will you choose? I'm curious about it.
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Old 2012-05-13, 03:00   Link #3500
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I liked the Fate ending most.
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