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Myssa Rei · 2012-05-13, 02:04

Also, wasn't there another line in a later novel (6 wasn't it?) where Nyaruko pretty much admits that she thought long and hard before she came up with her current form (the one we're seeing) because she wanted it to be attractive to Mahiro?

Eratas123 · 2012-05-13, 02:12

Where'd you read the LN from?

SaintessHeart · 2012-05-13, 03:12

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Also, wasn't there another line in a later novel (6 wasn't it?) where Nyaruko pretty much admits that she thought long and hard before she came up with her current form (the one we're seeing) because she wanted it to be attractive to Mahiro?

Maybe that could be the case for all of those aliens? I wonder though, if they are just following the Japanese culture of "cute & cuddly" when thinking of their transformation.

Though it probably explains why Hastur transformed into a loli in order to be cuter than Nyaruko.

Eratas123 · 2012-05-13, 03:19

I think he was like that even when he was younger. Nyarko and Kuuko instantly recognized him when they first saw him.

Cosmic Eagle · 2012-05-13, 04:20

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In regards to Nyaruko's power to shapeshift, there's an omitted part from the novel in transistion to anime in which Nyaruko settles Mahiro's doubt about her ability by transforming herself into a cute 2D anime character.

Little wonder why Xebec didn't animate this. But think of the laurels if they had manage to pull this stunt off convincingly.

Well it's actually not that daunting to do so...

MeisterBabylon · 2012-05-13, 04:36

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Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

Maybe that could be the case for all of those aliens? I wonder though, if they are just following the Japanese culture of "cute & cuddly" when thinking of their transformation.

Though it probably explains why Hastur transformed into a loli in order to be cuter than Nyaruko.

And there's that other problem of Hastur recognizing both Nyaruko and Kuuko. Ie, this is their original human forms.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2012-05-13, 05:03

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And there's that other problem of Hastur recognizing both Nyaruko and Kuuko. Ie, this is their original human forms.

More like they all regularly visit Earth, so taking human form is common. Don't forget that Nyaruko had been on Earth often enough to have a customer loyalty card. It is policy that human culture be disrupted as little as possible, as it would otherwise harm Earth's main export. So taking human form when visiting would be the law of the galaxy.

Kimidori · 2012-05-13, 05:39

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And there's that other problem of Hastur recognizing both Nyaruko and Kuuko. Ie, this is their original human forms.

maybe they have some kind of aura unique to each of them that other can use it to identify

Myssa Rei · 2012-05-13, 06:14

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maybe they have some kind of aura unique to each of them that other can use it to identify

It's likely that these races, having interacted with each other for God-knows how long, have racial markers to identify each other, like Cthughans being, oh I don't know, living fireballs.

Eratas123 · 2012-05-13, 10:32

Didn't Mahiro seem too easy to trust Nyarko? The original Nyarlalothep is a Malignant Trickster, and he indicated that he's read the Lovecraft books before, so I'm surprised he trusts anything she says at all.

Side note - If Nyarko's really nice, does that mean Lovecraft bullshited/exaggerated his stories in that universe? He couldn't have possibly just made those stories and coincidentally named them after the exact species and attributes of the aliens.

Myssa Rei · 2012-05-13, 10:38

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Side note - If Nyarko's really nice, does that mean Lovecraft bullshited/exaggerated his stories in that universe?

In-universe this is pretty much what happened. Lovecraft met and somehow befriended a Nyarlathotepian, but didn't really liked the stories of space and aliens his friend talked about, so he "embellished" stuff to turn them into horror stories. A lot of the stuff he wrote are based on the truth his friend told him about though (like the aliens really having mind-blasting real forms, and only choosing human forms for convenience).

Sumeragi · 2012-05-13, 10:44

I refuse to believe that the mind-shattering forms are the "real" forms. They're humanoids, they have to be!

Kimidori · 2012-05-13, 10:50

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I refuse to believe that the mind-shattering forms are the "real" forms. They're humanoids, they have to be!

yet another person go into denial.

noobita · 2012-05-13, 11:07

I wonder, how would Nyaruko going to act if Mahiro lost his sanity and became mental (let's just say that he accidentally witnessed a mind-shattering form). Will she going to blame herself? or she will take care of Mahiro for all eternity?

Eratas123 · 2012-05-13, 11:07

Hastur's humanoid....sort of.

@ Myssa Rei - Does Mahiro know that? I don't remember a scene of her saying the stories are false. Still, that's interesting to know.

@ Noobita - Both, most likely. Of course, this is impossible already. He's seen Nyarue's true form in Love(craft-sensei) and he didn't lose his sanity or even seem bothered by it at all.

Sumeragi · 2012-05-13, 11:26

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yet another person go into denial.

I am a Goddess. Of course my words are the truth!

ogon_bat · 2012-05-13, 11:36

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I wonder, how would Nyaruko going to act if Mahiro lost his sanity and became mental (let's just say that he accidentally witnessed a mind-shattering form). Will she going to blame herself? or she will take care of Mahiro for all eternity?

I bet she will pull out the little black tube with the red light and make Mahiro forget what he just saw

Malkuth · 2012-05-13, 18:35

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Originally Posted by Eratas123

Didn't Mahiro seem too easy to trust Nyarko? The original Nyarlalothep is a Malignant Trickster, and he indicated that he's read the Lovecraft books before, so I'm surprised he trusts anything she says at all.

How could you not trust a girl looking like Nyaruko

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Side note - If Nyarko's really nice, does that mean Lovecraft bullshited/exaggerated his stories in that universe? He couldn't have possibly just made those stories and coincidentally named them after the exact species and attributes of the aliens.

Of course H.P. Lovecraft is one of the first Men In Black

Nvis · 2012-05-13, 19:43

I notice at least a couple members here with the TRAP as their avatar.

Creepy......

Xellos-_^ · 2012-05-13, 19:48

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I notice at least a couple members here with the TRAP as their avatar.

Creepy......

they lost their san rolls.

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Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Didn't Mahiro seem too easy to trust Nyarko? The original Nyarlalothep is a Malignant Trickster, and he indicated that he's read the Lovecraft books before, so I'm surprised he trusts anything she says at all. Side note - If Nyarko's really nice, does that mean Lovecraft bullshited/exaggerated his stories in that universe? He couldn't have possibly just made those stories and coincidentally named them after the exact species and attributes of the aliens. __________________

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Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Hastur's humanoid....sort of. @ Myssa Rei - Does Mahiro know that? I don't remember a scene of her saying the stories are false. Still, that's interesting to know. @ Noobita - Both, most likely. Of course, this is impossible already. He's seen Nyarue's true form in Love(craft-sensei) and he didn't lose his sanity or even seem bothered by it at all. __________________

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