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Old 2012-05-22, 03:40   Link #261
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There's probably a couple more upgrades for the rest of the group down the line when I look at how things go.
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Old 2012-05-22, 03:42   Link #262
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Reading a bit more into it, it seems that Mariel Atenza optimized Nanoha's own Strike Cannon to keep it tuned to work better with her turning it into a dedicated unit of sorts. But so far that's all xDU
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Old 2012-05-22, 09:54   Link #263
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Personally I think that Hayate explanation is the same as saying 'we don't really feel like having her do anything, sorry'.

Except for her great and noticeable skill as a commander, of course.
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Old 2012-05-22, 11:59   Link #264
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To be fair, there is a precedent. They had trouble creating a device for her post-A's as well.

But yeah, more shafting. Yay.
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Old 2012-05-22, 12:24   Link #265
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That by itself was kind of a poor excuse in the first place.
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Old 2012-05-22, 12:40   Link #266
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Hey! Don't be like that, Hayate maybe lacks a new device but she still demonstrated that mages aren't totally useless on the battefield by casting a pwoerfull iceberg spell and that stopped the Huck- ...wait, no, she was also shafted during that one, by Curren this time. Oh well, keep waiting for Hayate's awesome moment xDU
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Old 2012-05-22, 15:12   Link #267
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I can only see Hayate doing the same thing as Lily with a strike cannon...

Hayate : Why are those cannons so heavy ?!
Nanoha : Those are the models I got especially for training. They are 40 kg. heavier than the real thing. Mwhahaha !
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Old 2012-05-23, 11:10   Link #268
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Hey! Don't be like that, Hayate maybe lacks a new device but she still demonstrated that mages aren't totally useless on the battefield by casting a pwoerfull iceberg spell and that stopped the Huck- ...wait, no, she was also shafted during that one, by Curren this time. Oh well, keep waiting for Hayate's awesome moment xDU
That was because Curren directly attacked her, not because she herself was useless.
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Old 2012-05-23, 14:25   Link #269
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Still shafted tho'
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Old 2012-05-23, 15:01   Link #270
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She was just useless in melee range.
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Old 2012-05-23, 15:16   Link #271
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To be fair to Hayate, everyone is useless at melee range against Curren Huckebein, she's boss xD
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Old 2012-05-23, 15:32   Link #272
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Yeah, everyone is kinda shafted in Force...wait that's not a good thing.
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Old 2012-05-23, 15:52   Link #273
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It's impossible to shaft everyone, Justin.
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Old 2012-05-23, 15:54   Link #274
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But it's possible to shaft the majority xDU

I wonder if Cypha's exposition about the workings of EC powers will be a good foreshadowing of how the heroes will learn how to fight them.
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Old 2012-05-23, 18:43   Link #275
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It doesn't necessarily have to be a huge shafting all-around.
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Old 2012-05-23, 21:38   Link #276
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She was just useless in melee range.
As she always has been in canon, unlike the games. Should that surprise anyone?
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Old 2012-05-24, 01:26   Link #277
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Nah, but it was kind of a downer for her fans.

"Yay! Hayate gets to be the heroine to save the day for a change!"

*stab*

"...nevermind."
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