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Old 2012-05-25, 12:35   Link #7601
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How is it that the Witch-Hunt can offer downloads of the main games? Would offering the other TIPS (or even other games like Higanbana) be considered?
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Old 2012-05-25, 13:36   Link #7602
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How is it that the Witch-Hunt can offer downloads of the main games? Would offering the other TIPS (or even other games like Higanbana) be considered?
Witch Hunt don't offer downloads of games themselves. They asked 07th Expansion and Hobibox if the games could be made available as downloads, which is why the games can be downloaded from Hobibox's website.

I don't see why Tsubasa and Hane couldn't be made available as downloads. They're probably not available yet due to the former not having a complete translation, and the latter having only recently been translated.

As for Higanbana, our group are discussing this with 07th Expansion, so hopefully we can get something in place soon.
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Old 2012-05-26, 05:28   Link #7603
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New units are usually manufactured for each Comiket, so retailers should have more stock at around C82 in August.
Oh sweet, maybe Mandarake will get some in stock...
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Old 2012-05-26, 20:19   Link #7604
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I've recently been fiddling around with the files for Umineko as I've been playing with ONScripter a bit recently, and after doing so I wondered about a couple of choices that Witch Hunt made in their translations. Don't get me wrong, its not like I think they are mistakes or anything, I'm just curious as to some of the decisions you guys made.

For instance, one thats been bugging me for a while was, why was Beatrice's title translated as 'Endless Witch' and not 'Witch of Eternity?' Personally I would have leaned toward the second because it fits the pattern of the other witches in the series (Witch of Miracles, Witch of Certainty, Witch of Origins, Witch of Resurrection, Witch of Truth...Endless Witch?) I figure that it was probably done like that since the other witches didn't really factor in to Episode 1, and so there was no pattern to maintain, and no reason to change it in subsequent patches because it would break continuity within the translation itself? I dunno, just figured I'd bring it up since I was already here lol.

My second question which I came across when I was looking at the sprite files in the game, I noticed that Krauss' files are labled as 'KLA' in the file directory. Is there any reason why his name was translated as Krauss and not...Klauss? I figure the second was a more common name, since I've never heard of anyone named Krauss outside of Umineko, so I was wondering what led to the decision to name him Krauss instead.

Again, not like I think any of these are mistakes or anything, but I was just curious as to why you guys made the decisions you did
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Old 2012-05-26, 20:39   Link #7605
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Well "mugen" doesn't really translate well as "eternity", that would be "eien". At best it could have been translated as "infinite". I suppose that Chronotrig chose to go with a literal translation rather than a stylish one, for possible implications in theory making.

As for the labels, they aren't really reliable and I think the official transliteration of 蔵臼 is indeed Krauss.
There are examples that are quite blatant like:

Battler -> BUT
Clair -> CUR

Those are just lables for the people working on the script to use, they aren't meant to be used as reference for official romanizations.
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Old 2012-05-26, 20:43   Link #7606
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ahh I see. I have always seen Eien no Majo in the Japanese derivitives I've read, but if it was Mugen no Majo then that would be much more understandable.

(I say that but I can't remember where I've seen Eien....Ougon maybe? I dunno anymore lol)
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Old 2012-05-26, 21:43   Link #7607
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Eien no Majo? I can say for (almost) sure that I never heard this, at least not in Umineko.

And since we are talking about romanization of japanese names... it is never constant. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who romanizes シエスタ as Chiester instead of Siesta.
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Old 2012-05-26, 22:31   Link #7608
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Ougon romanizes it as Chiester, so you're hardly alone.
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Old 2012-05-26, 23:17   Link #7609
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I meant in the fandom. Pretty much 90% of the fans prefer Siesta over Chiester, and so I feel "alone" sometimes. Heck, I already found someone who uses Siesta only because nearly everyone uses it, despite knowing that Chiester actually makes sense.
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Old 2012-05-27, 07:28   Link #7610
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The fans are kinda split in half on the issue, and Witch Hunt never took an official position on the matter I think.

On the wikipedia's character list the bunnygirls' names were changed to Siesta and Chiester back and forth at least 10 times before it settled down to Chiester.

For Witches & Woodlands I used Chiester, but they are barely mentioned.
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Old 2012-05-27, 08:02   Link #7611
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Well, I assume everyone uses Siesta because it's what the translation uses.

I wonder why they never changed it to the official version.
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Old 2012-05-27, 11:00   Link #7612
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What TIPS are not translated in the Tsubasa patch?
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Old 2012-05-27, 15:46   Link #7613
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I meant in the fandom. Pretty much 90% of the fans prefer Siesta over Chiester, and so I feel "alone" sometimes. Heck, I already found someone who uses Siesta only because nearly everyone uses it, despite knowing that Chiester actually makes sense.
Witch Hunt's translation uses "Siesta", so everyone called them that until the official transliteration was revealed. I hope WH change their patches at some stage to reflect this…
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Old 2012-05-27, 17:58   Link #7614
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Personally I'm of conflicted feelings on the Siesta/Chiester issue. Siesta sounds better to me, but Chiester makes more sense in terms of the story.
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Old 2012-05-27, 21:09   Link #7615
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Here we are!

Umineko no Naku Koro ni Hane English Patch - you can download it from Mediafire or (soon) from our website.
There's also an Italian version available, if you prefer so.
Install it as you always have with WH's manual patch, or just read the readme.

This is a Windows-only patch. I wanted to do a OSX version too but I had some problems, I'm sorry. If you find any errors, please send them to our email address! (included in the readme).

Special thanks to LyricalAura, which kindly let us use the translation for Jessica and the Killer Electric Fan, and the to me unknown translator of Forgery N.XXX on the wiki!
Oh yeah! You're amazing!

This remind me a question. Is anyone actually working on a Ougon patch?

And one more thing. Are the rest of the Tsubasa tips, that aren't in the partial patch, translated somewhere, in .txt or something??
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Old 2012-05-28, 08:14   Link #7616
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Is anyone actually working on a Ougon patch?
Unfortunately not.

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Are the rest of the Tsubasa tips, that aren't in the partial patch, translated somewhere, in .txt or something??
As far as I know, all the TIPS which have been translated are included in the partial patch.
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Old 2012-05-28, 11:12   Link #7617
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Siesta/Chiester case was basically dragged because we didn't feel like bugging again about that matter (that and we were focused on something else). That said, we got confirmation it is Chiester, so we will probably update at some point (although I must admit, the prospect of replacing all siesta mention sounds tedious already).
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Old 2012-05-28, 11:20   Link #7618
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Siesta/Chiester case was basically dragged because we didn't feel like bugging again about that matter (that and we were focused on something else). That said, we got confirmation it is Chiester, so we will probably update at some point (although I must admit, the prospect of replacing all siesta mention sounds tedious already).
Find & Replace: "Siesta" --> "Chiester"

Should do the trick, I'd imagine…
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Old 2012-05-28, 11:23   Link #7619
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I was actually referring to all pictures. Nothing difficult with the PSD, but since it would require changing all of them, well you get the idea.
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Old 2012-05-28, 11:48   Link #7620
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Last year they had some technical fails and couldn't host one but if nothing goes wrong this year, there *should* -and I hope that there will- be one (especially with Ryukishi07 being present ).
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