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Old 2012-05-17, 17:10   Link #4021
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I'm sorry if this is a question that has been asked before, but is there an "internal affairs" equivalent in the TSAB? Who investigates TSAB officers themselves if there is criminal activity?

The only instances in canon that I can recall are Chrono arresting Aria and Lotte, and Signum kind-of going to arrest Regius Gaiz (after the man was killed though). But I don't think that in either case, they were following any laid-out procedures?

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Old 2012-05-17, 17:17   Link #4022
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Old 2012-05-17, 18:11   Link #4023
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Regius had Auris investigate RF6, which they had to fully comply with. Hayate did some investigating of her own, which made her suspect Regius.

It feels like anyone can order an investigation, if they have enough authority.

Of course, no one figured out that the brain council was funding Jail, so it doesn't seem like there is a separate authority.

And like RD said, Verossa was able to investigate on his own.
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Old 2012-05-17, 18:31   Link #4024
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Old 2012-05-17, 18:44   Link #4025
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@RD, Kaijo, and Keroko: Thanks! I guess there's no real structure for that in MGLN verse .
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Old 2012-05-17, 19:13   Link #4026
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I'm sorry if this is a question that has been asked before, but is there an "internal affairs" equivalent in the TSAB? Who investigates TSAB officers themselves if there is criminal activity?

The only instances in canon that I can recall are Chrono arresting Aria and Lotte, and Signum kind-of going to arrest Regius Gaiz (after the man was killed though). But I don't think that in either case, they were following any laid-out procedures?

Thanks!
According to a previous post:

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http://nanoha.wikia.com/wiki/Time-Sp...reau#Positions

To sum it up: Enforcer = elite of the elite, member of the Navy, conducts interdimensional investigations; Investigator = kinda like a commissioner, a high ranking police detective, usually member of the Ground Forces on a specific world; Inspector = internal affairs of the Bureau.
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Old 2012-05-18, 11:06   Link #4027
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I'm sorry if this is a question that has been asked before, but is there an "internal affairs" equivalent in the TSAB? Who investigates TSAB officers themselves if there is criminal activity?
The internal affairs of the Bureau are officially handled by the Inspectors (in addition to inspecting industrial objects for illegal business practices). Sauce: http://nanoha.julynet.jp/?%C0%A4%B3%...ikerS#q91dbd4a
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Old 2012-05-24, 02:01   Link #4028
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@Tiresias: Thanks for the link! And heh, yeah, I survived final exams . Haven't been around much though.

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The internal affairs of the Bureau are officially handled by the Inspectors (in addition to inspecting industrial objects for illegal business practices). Sauce: http://nanoha.julynet.jp/?%C0%A4%B3%...ikerS#q91dbd4a
Thanks! I'm glad there's a canon institution for it, that was very helpful.
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Old 2012-05-31, 06:52   Link #4029
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Does anybody know how long the cyborg rehabilitation program (by Ginga and Genya) took?

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Old 2012-05-31, 07:45   Link #4030
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Does anybody know how long the cyborg rehabilitation program (by Ginga and Genya) took?

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Around 3 years, I think. Cinque was already working with Ginga in SSX
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Old 2012-05-31, 08:23   Link #4031
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I mean, when did the cyborgs get released from the program?

I know that they are still undergoing it after about 7 months from the JS incident from SSM3.
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Oh that reminds me, about Dad and Gin-nee, they’re looking after the Numbers at the Isolation Ward. Everyone there is doing great, it looks like everyone is learning lots of different things and making great progress on their rehabilitation.
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Once everyone’s rehabilitation is over and they get out, there are so many other things they’ll have to learn and get used to.
I don't think they finished it in SSX yet though, maybe they had special permission to help since the city was in danger.
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Disc1-12 海上保護施設 ナカジマ家4姉妹 (保護 = care/protection/shelter/guardianship 施設 = institution/establishment/facility)
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Cinque was a witness concerning the event as well, stated in Disc 2
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Ginga: No, no. Cinque is also a witness related to the Toredia case/incident. Don’t worry about it, let’s go together.
Some time between after SSX and Vivd perhaps?

Edit: Now that I think about it more, does it mean Sein, Otto and Deed were more well-behaved/took the program more seriously than the other four (seriously doubt this point considering Cinque's and Sein's character) or is it because they help out at the Church so they are free earlier?

I don't think severity of crimes has anything to do with this, since rehabilitation only checks if you're back to "normal".
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Old 2012-06-13, 07:05   Link #4032
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In one translation, Yuuno claims a Jewel Seed can consume a user's spirit. Any truth to this?
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Old 2012-06-13, 21:52   Link #4033
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I mean, when did the cyborgs get released from the program?

I know that they are still undergoing it after about 7 months from the JS incident from SSM3.

I don't think they finished it in SSX yet though, maybe they had special permission to help since the city was in danger.

Cinque was a witness concerning the event as well, stated in Disc 2

Some time between after SSX and Vivd perhaps?

Edit: Now that I think about it more, does it mean Sein, Otto and Deed were more well-behaved/took the program more seriously than the other four (seriously doubt this point considering Cinque's and Sein's character) or is it because they help out at the Church so they are free earlier?

I don't think severity of crimes has anything to do with this, since rehabilitation only checks if you're back to "normal".
I was under the impression it was the severity of the crime that prevented rapid rehabilitation and release from imprisonment/rehab. I'm sure pretty much everyone was serious about learning about 'normal' social interaction and acceptable modes of expression (as opposed to Jail Scaglietti-esque terrorist acts).

Please remember that Cinque is significantly older than most of the Numbers and have been active longer, thus probably committed quite a number of crimes.
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Old 2012-06-13, 23:25   Link #4034
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When I was proof-reading SSX 02 I found the answer to the first part of my post.

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I beg your pardon, I did not research at all on the topic when I was typing that out.

I guess the same can be said for Nove, Wendi and Dieci since Otto and Deed were only activated during the assault on RF6 and HQ (I think).
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Old 2012-06-14, 01:54   Link #4035
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Please remember that Cinque is significantly older than most of the Numbers and have been active longer, thus probably committed quite a number of crimes.
Including the murder of a high-ranking Bureau officer on duty (unless she also offed Quint, which would make for some interesting talk between her and Genya).

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When I was proof-reading SSX 02 I found the answer to the first part of my post.
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Old 2012-06-14, 02:16   Link #4036
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Dieci: Ground forces and disaster prevention teams are all rushing to the scene. The location is the harbor security maritime district/sector Marine Garden. Luckily it was after close, so there weren’t any people but it’s getting really serious/dangerous. With his authority, Dad has given us emergency orders to assist with the disaster. Come back!
Cinque: Father did? Roger, I’ll be back right away, wait for me.
This proves that they were still in rehab during SSX and there was an emergency so they were let out for a while. Since there's no canon material concerning them from SSX till Vivid, they were released some time between them.
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Old 2012-06-14, 10:03   Link #4037
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Including the murder of a high-ranking Bureau officer on duty (unless she also offed Quint, which would make for some interesting talk between her and Genya).
OOPS! ...well, uhm, seems that Genya is the most understanding man in the universe, the guy have a heart of gold for caringly receiving her wife's murderer as family. He could be a perfect priest xD
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In one translation, Yuuno claims a Jewel Seed can consume a user's spirit. Any truth to this?
Not sure what you're asking.
If you mean making people go crazy then the answer is yes.
it happened in a soundstage when one Jewel Seed mess with Nanoha's brother's mind.
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Not sure what you're asking.
If you mean making people go crazy then the answer is yes.
it happened in a soundstage when one Jewel Seed mess with Nanoha's brother's mind.
And all the women lost their swimsuits in that incident.
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Old 2012-06-15, 03:00   Link #4040
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Not sure what you're asking.
If you mean making people go crazy then the answer is yes.
it happened in a soundstage when one Jewel Seed mess with Nanoha's brother's mind.
What sound stage was that?

And this is what I'm talking about.
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