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Old 2012-06-11, 08:34   Link #1081
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My god, seeing Yuko like that made me so sad inside.

Seeing someone as nice as her suffer a slow painful death, and hell not getting mad during her last moments.
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Old 2012-06-11, 08:39   Link #1082
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I think that throwing a girl into a basement as a sacrifice and leaving her to die down there is straight up murder regardless of what diseases she might be affected with. Their intention was to serve her up as a sacrifice so killing her was on the agenda from the moment Asa spoke her name. But hey...that's just me...

Also...I wonder what happened to Asa after that. The elders couldn't risk releasing the girl and having her tell everyone else what they have done, plus the fact that Yuuko's body was still there 60 years later means that her sister never found out her exact location. So either they killed Asa, took her away or kept her away until she died from the plague.
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Old 2012-06-11, 09:11   Link #1083
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Yuuko's memories finally revealed.
We got to learn some more about the epidemic at the time.
OMG, Yuuko was a sacrifice to end the epidemic, so cruel and unfair.
I was amazed by the fact how kindhearted she was.
Shadow Yuuko was born right while Yuuko was dying.
I she forgave it all, she'd probably ascend from being a ghost.
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Old 2012-06-11, 10:02   Link #1084
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Nothing like being made to watch a train about to wreck, from the front seat, when you knew what was going to happen already.

This was an exquisitely directed episode, and I expected nothing less from such an important one.

Now, something curious I noticed. When Teiichi was in ghost form mimicking Yuuko's movements in the interim, he was not in his current age, but of a young boy. That's quite odd, considering that both he and Yuuko would be of the same age in the memory. He should've stay as his current age and not turn into a child.

I'm sure this is another clue to the puzzle we are all dying to solve...

(Get it? Dying? )
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Old 2012-06-11, 10:11   Link #1085
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That was a gut wrenching episode. It's already bad enough that Yuuko was arbitrarily sacrificed, those bastards couldn't even grant her a quick death and instead made her suffer horribly for days. How cruel. I can't blame her for going mad in her final moments.

Aside from those tragic events, Teiichi got to see a few nice things as well. More specifically, Yuuko and Yukariko's naked bodies. Way to go, kid.
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Old 2012-06-11, 10:11   Link #1086
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That.. was just heart wrenching. What a horrible way to go; nobody should have to suffer like that. It just goes to show how screwed up humanity can be.

So the main reason Yuuko became a ghost was because of her shadow self, and that mirror?

I'm expecting the penultimate episode to be all about Teiichi trying to get Yuuko and Shadow Yuuko to become one (and possibly succeeding), and I expect the final episode to be a bittersweet farewell.. or . . . something happier. As pointless/stupid as it may be, I just can't help it; I am a hopeless romantic, after all.

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Now, something curious I noticed. When Teiichi was in ghost form mimicking Yuuko's movements in the interim, he was not in his current age, but of a young boy. That's quite odd, considering that both he and Yuuko would be of the same age in the memory. He should've stay as his current age and not turn into a child.

I'm sure this is another clue to the puzzle we are all dying to solve...

(Get it? Dying? )
I was wondering about that myself. Hopefully it'll be explained in the next episode..

Oh, you. I shouldn't have found that funny. But I did. >>
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Old 2012-06-11, 10:26   Link #1087
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Geez. The anime really wanted to hit the point home that the village elders were just scared, stupid leaders. Those voice actors were doing some of the most annoying, stereotypical impressions of crazy old geezers. At least compared to other anime with "old wise people" in it. I expected one of them to yell out "Thar's gold in them thar hills!".
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Old 2012-06-11, 10:35   Link #1088
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Geez. The anime really wanted to hit the point home that the village elders were just scared, stupid leaders. Those voice actors were doing some of the most annoying, stereotypical impressions of crazy old geezers. At least compared to other anime with "old wise people" in it. I expected one of them to yell out "Thar's gold in them thar hills!".
It hit harder than an indestructible Revolving Stake being fired with an exploding matter-antimatter cartridge.
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Old 2012-06-11, 11:39   Link #1089
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The old people are seriously retarded. They are already sick and will die anyways yet they still made the sacrifice to save themselves? wtf?

Don't think they had families that aren't dead already.
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Old 2012-06-11, 12:03   Link #1090
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"The gods won't be appeased with an old sacrifice! It must be a young one!"
Suuuuuure it has...it has nothing to do with he fact that you're old innit?

Anyways...the way things were going I predict that Yuuko will merge with Shadow Yuuko and move on in the final episode. There will probably be a very bitter-sweet farewell in the last moment and the anime will end with just Teiichi walking away from the school gate with the other two next to or behind him. Possibly a final shot with Teiichi in the very same position by the window that Yuuko is usually in the ending credits.
There probably won't be any "He ends up with Kirie cause she's a Yuuko clone" or anything about his future, it'll just end it there, when Yuuko vanishes and leave an open ending.
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Old 2012-06-11, 12:13   Link #1091
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...Aside from those tragic events, Teiichi got to see a few nice things as well. More specifically, Yuuko and Yukariko's naked bodies. Way to go, kid.
I still find the standard anime trope of guys desperately trying not to see anything really annoying. If they were calmer about it, it would be gentlemanly, but this is always just weak.
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Old 2012-06-11, 12:44   Link #1092
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...Now I got a question about the shrine. A mirror is enshrined in it so are there any Japanese mythical lore that relates to mirrors
A mirror is one of the three sacred objects of the Japanese imperial family, and is held in the Grand Shrine at Ise. When the sun goddess Amaterasu was angry and hid in a cave, the other gods set up a mirror in a tree outside it, and when she caught sight of the beautiful goddess in it (herself), she came out. Many Shinto shrines apparently have mirrors in them as sacred objects.

There is also a story about a girl whose mother bequeathed her hand-mirror to her when she died, telling her that when she was sad, she could look into it and see her again.

Also, the king of hell is supposed to have a mirror that will show your sins.

And it's a common old Japanese custom to cover up mirrors with a cloth, supposedly because mirrors can attract evil spirits.

Actually, all the old stories about mirrors concerned metal mirrors: discs of bronze with one side polished so highly that you could (more or less) see your face in them.
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Old 2012-06-11, 13:40   Link #1093
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Really good episode. These series really impressed me. As someone who really enjoys the manga, I was pleasantly surprised that the series has lived up to my expectations. Now, I'm curious as to how both the anime and manga will end and more importantly, will their endings be the same or different?
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Old 2012-06-11, 14:09   Link #1094
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I just want to reach through my screen and Yuuko-slap all those manic idiots ><*
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Old 2012-06-11, 16:37   Link #1095
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I still find the standard anime trope of guys desperately trying not to see anything really annoying. If they were calmer about it, it would be gentlemanly, but this is always just weak.
I'd say in this instance, it makes sense to be a little panicky about it. Normally, yeah, you can turn away. Here, he had to mimic whatever Yuuko did, so he had no choice. Double freak-out, in a way.

Anyway, I was hoping she'd die when the candles went out. Since they still had plenty of wick left, I figured them going out symbolized the lack of oxygen in the area. That apparently wasn't the case, as it seems she likely died of hunger/thirst rather than asphyxiation.

Be interesting to see whether they end it with her continuing to "haunt" Teiichi, moving on, or if she gets reincarnated through some voodoo that they do.
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Old 2012-06-11, 16:53   Link #1096
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He's a 12 year old Japanese kid...give him a break...
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Old 2012-06-11, 17:32   Link #1097
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Anyway, I was hoping she'd die when the candles went out. Since they still had plenty of wick left, I figured them going out symbolized the lack of oxygen in the area. That apparently wasn't the case, as it seems she likely died of hunger/thirst rather than asphyxiation..
judging from the amount of blood she was loosing she probably died from blood loss, most likely her broken bone ruptured her Femoral Artery. Remember that she was getting very cold, a system of bleeding to death.

It would be hours not days...

according to Maybe's twitter he loved the episode!!!
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Old 2012-06-11, 20:25   Link #1098
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Shouldn't Yuuko & Yukariko have told the police or whatever soon after discovering what those goddamn bastards were planning to do?
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Old 2012-06-11, 20:31   Link #1099
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Shouldn't Yuuko & Yukariko have told the police or whatever soon after discovering what those goddamn bastards were planing to do?
A small town in some random hill over 60 years ago, in instance like those is pretty uncommon to have "public services". For all uses and purposes the neighbor is the law.

Heck, depending on the type of teaching they are getting, it would be unrealistic for the kids to even know the word police (警察)
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Old 2012-06-11, 20:57   Link #1100
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I really enjoyed this episode. Teiichi seeing and reenacting Yuuko's memories and experience before her untimely death was heart-wrenching. I also like how Yukariko's character design and persona as well. She wasn't an envious younger sister which I originally thought she was and turns out to be very caring towards her.

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Now, I'm curious as to how both the anime and manga will end and more importantly, will their endings be the same or different?
Maybe a little of both. The manga's end can't be completely the same as it already moved on a different course. Not to mention it would absolutely spoil the manga readers if both endings were the same.

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according to Maybe's twitter he loved the episode!!!
I wish I could read his comment. Google translate can't seem to work on Twitter for me.
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