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View Poll Results: Fate/Zero - Episode 24 Rating
Perfect 10 62 48.82%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 36 28.35%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 14 11.02%
7 out of 10 : Good 4 3.15%
6 out of 10 : Average 3 2.36%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 3 2.36%
4 out of 10 : Poor 3 2.36%
3 out of 10 : Bad 2 1.57%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2012-06-16, 16:10   Link #21
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Grail-kun is a wily one, isn't he?

Kiritsugu has unbelievable strength of will, yet this is accented by the great tragic choices he must make. The bit with Ilya... that was simply amazing. I would never have expected to see Kiritsugu do something like that.

And Saber's despair... you can just hear how strained her voice is, as she tries, with absolute futility, to resist the command spell to destroy the grail.

As a person who hasn't read the novels, I also feel that the conflict between Saber and Berserker was rushed in how it was resolved, but it didn't bother me too much. The rest of the episode made up for it. It's a shame, but there's not much that can be done about it.
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Old 2012-06-16, 16:12   Link #22
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So does the grail reaching that decision mean that Kiritsugu just wanted to protect those two? Or is that how the grail interpreted it?

I know the first question sounds stupid but still I'm curious.
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Old 2012-06-16, 16:14   Link #23
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Grail-kun needs classes in algebra - that equation is so wrong
I'm afraid his problem runs deeper than that
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Old 2012-06-16, 16:21   Link #24
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I'm afraid his problem runs deeper than that
i think this one fits better
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Old 2012-06-16, 16:30   Link #25
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Great episode.

Berserker's fight & Saber's was kind of anti-climatic. Kiritsugu & Kirei's fight though was freaking amazing.

Dat soundtrack too.

I gotta give Kiritsugu some props for not wanting to do what he wants with the Grail. He's one of my most favorite characters now.
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Old 2012-06-16, 16:42   Link #26
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This is the last episode or what?
Or end is on Blu-ray?
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Old 2012-06-16, 16:42   Link #27
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Kirei = Assasin from Fate/Extra? Martial arts expert
Kiritsugu goes all out with triple accel and is blocked with only one hand
Sadly there was no conclusion, as the grail intervenes.

The dialogue between Kiritsugu and the Grail was animated perfectly, with a tragic ending. All he desired save the world and ended up killing his Iri and Illya for the sake of 6 billion people.

Compared to the novel, Kariya and Berserker didn't really do much, I expected Berserker and Saber to have a bit more conservation.

Preview, a young voice, Shirou incoming?
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Old 2012-06-16, 16:48   Link #28
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I liked the Kiritsugu vs Kirei, but I hated how they cut off Saber vs Berserker a lot. :/

Considering "Angra Manyu" was mentioned, I wonder if Heaven's Feel and Fate/Hollow will be animated soon...

But I guess Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya will be animated first?
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Old 2012-06-16, 16:51   Link #29
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Disappointing points:

Kirei not punching that bullet with his fist (bitchslapping it was a little less GAR).
Not making clear Kiritsugu was regenerating from exploded heart (and other damage to his ribs when Kirei killed him) because of Avalon (and using time accel at max thanks to it, even like that he could barely keep up the speed Kirei was going. What a freaking monster).
Berserker vs Saber. What was that? Nothing was clear. How underwhelming. That battle was Zerker owning Saber in the novels. Because you know, Lancelot is pretty much unbeatable in her time. She knew it. She won because he wanted to die like that and because Kariya ran out juice.
Saber's eyes flash golden/murky yellow when Gilgamesh blocks her way to the Grail. Where was that?

Spoiler for boo:


The illusion and the Kirei vs Kiritsugu battle was okay otherwise.
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:02   Link #30
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So does the grail reaching that decision mean that Kiritsugu just wanted to protect those two? Or is that how the grail interpreted it?

I know the first question sounds stupid but still I'm curious.
Kiritsugu's wish was the live with Iri and Illya in peace BY saving the world. The Grail's conclusion was if you kill everyone in the world, leaving them alone, there would be peace.

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i think this one fits better
That really does fit the best.
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:08   Link #31
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That really does fit the best.
and you can't argue with it either.

Kill 1, you are a murder
kill 100, you are a monster
kill 1,000,000, you are now immortal.
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:09   Link #32
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So Saber was supposed to become Saber Alter for some moments??
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:11   Link #33
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So Saber was supposed to become Saber Alter for some moments??
It's more like that's the form of her when she gives in to despair, like how Berserker is all wreathed in black crazy smoke and dark armor. I bet he would look different if he was his usual self.
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:11   Link #34
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Kirei = Assasin from Fate/Extra?
I believe they both use Bai Quan at least...

Good episode, though I do hope Lancelot gets some extension later... Because that was too short!
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:13   Link #35
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So Saber was supposed to become Saber Alter for some moments??
Do you want the quote?
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:16   Link #36
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Everything in the episode was superb and awesome. What wasn't awesome was what wasn't there. How could they jip us of the last conflict with Lancelot like that? Gotta wait for the blue rays I guess? I almost wish I didn't see this episode now so I could've enjoyed the better product later. This is just so lame. Should've just been a double episode IMO.
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:19   Link #37
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blu-rays = anime version of a DLC duh
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:29   Link #38
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I'll hold on voting until the blue-ray version is released because it felt like ten to fifteen minutes were missing. Otherwise, the Evangelion-like bad trip was splendid and the better part of the episode, and I talk as one who loved that fight between Kirei and Kiritsugu.
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:38   Link #39
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My only gripe with episode is like what many have already pointed out, the short and sudden resolution to the Lancelot fight. Was hoping for so much more with that, hopefully more is on the blu-ray.

Otherwise a fantastic episode with great emotional punch.
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:55   Link #40
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My initial reaction after watching this was 9/10.

In many ways, it was outstanding. However, even from my perspective (that of an anime-only watcher) it did feel rushed to me. Primarily for that reason, I took off a point.

But then I read this thread, after making my episode vote, and I'm honestly stunned to read how much was left out. Wow...

Unless this is a marketing scheme to get more people to buy the Blu-Rays/DVDs (i.e. "You can only see the full Saber/Berserker fight here!"), it's really hard to understand why ufotable would take this approach. Especially when if you cut out a certain loli-Rin episode from the first cour, you'd have the TV time for it...


All of that being said, it was a very gripping watch, and the intensity of the episode was deliciously palpable. Superbly directed.

And, I have to admit, while I felt a bit sorry for Kiritsugu, there was a sort of poetic justice to the Grail throwing his own "The Ends Justify the Means" logic right back into his face. What made it especially poignant is how the Grail is essentially right: Where human life is abundant, conflict is inevitable. It's part of human nature, as some of us (including myself) have argued in recent weeks. Frankly, Kirei was right about the naivety of Kiritsugu's wish.

Sabre's outcome here is pretty tragic. Truly a very tragic heroine here in Fate/Zero.


The Kiritsugu vs. Kirei fight was an awesome spectacle. I daresay it was the most satisfying one-on-one fight of all of Fate/Zero, and that is saying something.

I was stunned at Kirei's seeming death...

The brief Gilgamesh/Saber scene was nice.


I'll leave it at that for now.
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