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Old 2012-06-16, 16:27   Link #3661
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I expected much but this outcome from Group A was unexpected.
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Old 2012-06-16, 16:33   Link #3662
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That should give us ample warning to take the match against Denmark seriously tomorrow.
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:04   Link #3663
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If im not mistaken, the situation so far.
  • If Germany wins or makes 0:0, Germany is on first place of the group.
  • If Germany and Netherland loose and Denmark would win with two goals ahead, then Germany is out.
  • If Germany wins and the Netherlands wins with two goals ahead, Germany and Netherlands are further.

Thats why many dutch fans want to see Germany win, tomorrow.
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:31   Link #3664
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For Germany to lose: Denmark has to win 1-0, 2-1 or with a bigger goal difference and Portugal has to win.
If Denmark wins 3-2, 4-3, 5-4 etc. then Germany and Denmark qualify regardless of the Portugal v Holland result.
Holland has to win with by at least 2 goals to go through and hope Germany wins against Denmark.
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Old 2012-06-16, 17:47   Link #3665
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well, that was unexpected. tomorrow's games should be great.
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Old 2012-06-16, 18:01   Link #3666
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Almost all games were very exciting, even the cheaper teams put a solid effort, play on the counter attack, have a serious defensive effort, and personally I prefer it to that boring passing game of Barcelona.
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Old 2012-06-17, 12:24   Link #3667
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If im not mistaken, the situation so far.
  • If Germany wins or makes 0:0, Germany is on first place of the group.
  • If Germany and Netherland loose and Denmark would win with two goals ahead, then Germany is out.
  • If Germany wins and the Netherlands wins with two goals ahead, Germany and Netherlands are further.

Thats why many dutch fans want to see Germany win, tomorrow.
I don't see how Germany could still not qualify for the quarter finals.

Even if they lose to Denmark and Portugal wins, we have 3 teams with 6 points.
But if the points are the same, the first thing that counts is the direct result of the game between the two teams in question. Germany won against Portugal, so they would always stay in front of them, no matter what.
It would then be
1. Denmark
2. Germany
3. Portugal
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Old 2012-06-17, 12:28   Link #3668
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They compare all teams with equal number of points, not just Portugal and Germany. Portugal won against Denmark and would also go to the finals according to your logic.
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Old 2012-06-17, 12:28   Link #3669
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Because there are 3 teams on equal points, the head to head of ALL the games between them are counted.

If Denmark defeats Germany, Germany defeats Portugal, Portugal defeats Denmark, the head to head for all of them are 1W1L. Then the tiebreaker between them will be goal difference, followed by number of goals scored. Again, only the games between them are counted (ie. the games against Netherlands are out of the picture).
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Old 2012-06-17, 12:56   Link #3670
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I'll just leave this here :

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Old 2012-06-17, 13:05   Link #3671
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Some pi(i)gs never learn....
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Old 2012-06-17, 13:19   Link #3672
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Bitch please.

That's gonna be decided today. If Germany is 2ns place, Germany will will play against Czech.
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Old 2012-06-17, 13:34   Link #3673
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what I think about football :P

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Old 2012-06-17, 13:44   Link #3674
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I'll just leave this here :

Spoiler for saving space:
Unfortunately, Karagounis (pictured above) won't be playing. But Maniatis (below) will eat her soul



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Bitch please.

That's gonna be decided today. If Germany is 2ns place, Germany will will play against Czech.
Czechs will be an easier opposition, but I seriously doubt that Germany will choose its opponent

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Old 2012-06-17, 14:34   Link #3675
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I hope we don't mirror the Holland-Denmark game. 5-6 huge chances, only one goal. Denmark has one chance and scores too.

At the moment, all it takes would be a late goal for Portugal (quite possible, since Holland needs to open up and risk goals) and a goal for Denmark, and Germany is out with 6 points ... my my.

We're not playing bad, we're just not converting our chances. Holland knows how well that works.
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Old 2012-06-17, 15:16   Link #3676
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Best player in the world just showed his class.
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Old 2012-06-17, 15:20   Link #3677
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Old 2012-06-17, 15:57   Link #3678
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Oh man, Germany was realy slow, sometimes. No ideas in the front, not much movement.. But sometimes, it works out nicely. Lukas Podolski made a goal on his 100th international game. Congrats to him. I think Germany could win agains Greece but we will loose hard against Spain or other high class teams.
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Old 2012-06-17, 16:02   Link #3679
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So in the end it will be Greece against Germany on Friday... cool, that will be very funny.

Nonetheless, save for another miracle occuring, Germany has one of the two best approaches against the boring football of Barcelona that Spain, France and Russia imitate the other being Italy and Greece disciplined defense (with different formations for obvious reasons).
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Old 2012-06-17, 16:41   Link #3680
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I think Germany could win agains Greece but we will loose hard against Spain or other high class teams.
No, it's the other way round. The German game is pre-geared against Spain - see the possession play, and the controlled risk-averse setup. This system will take the edge off against weaker teams (leading to fewer goals compared to the counterplay routs in 2008/2010), but the idea is that "it should still be good enough". As it turned out to be. 9 points in this group is quite an achievement.

Whether or not it's going to be sufficient remains to be seen. We also have options to go for a more offensive setup (Reus, Schürrle), but it was felt to be unnecessary so far. I am convinced however that any game against Spain/Italy/France would be very very close. "Losing hard" is what will not happen. No way.
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