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Old 2012-06-18, 13:50   Link #22061
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I believe Syriza changed its opinion like ... 30 minutes after saying no and will join the coalition.
As of 1719 GMT, the New York Times is still reporting that

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After talks with the leader of the victorious New Democracy party, Antonis Samaras, [PASOK leader] Venizelos also condemned [Syriza] leader Alexis Tsipras for showing an "irresponsible" and "politically provocative" stance by insisting on remaining in opposition to a coalition.
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Old 2012-06-18, 15:07   Link #22062
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New Democracy Wins Plurality in Greek Elections
The new "anti-austerity" Syriza came in not far behind but unsurprisingly won't join a coalition with ND. Looks like a coalition of the two mainstream parties, New Democracy and PASOK, will govern for a while. Despite the hoopla in the media about how this election will determine the future of Greece, its membership in the Eurozone, or the future of the Euro itself, it's hard to see how anything has really changed. A left-leaning coalition of PASOK and Syriza isn't in the cards, as those two do not command a legislative majority.
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I believe Syriza changed its opinion like ... 30 minutes after saying no and will join the coalition.

As for egypt well ... The doubt I had on the military never ceased and won't cease, once you tasted of power, you cling to it.
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As of 1719 GMT, the New York Times is still reporting that
The seats in the parliament are (from old school left-to-right order) and in parenthesis their election results:

12 (4.5%) Communist Party of Greece (stalinist communist, anti-EU, anti-austerity)
71 (26.89%) Coalition of the Radical Left (euro-communism, pro-EU, anti-austerity[0])
17 (6.26%) Democratic Left (social democracy, pro-EU, progressively disengage from austerity)
33 (12.28%) Panhellenic Socialist Movement (social democracy, pro-EU, progressively disengage from austerity[1])
129 (29.66%) New Democracy (conservatives with some liberals, euro-skeptics, pro-austerity[2])
20 (7.51%) Independent Greeks (populist right, racism, euro-skeptics, anti-austerity)
18 (6.92%) Golden Dawn (nazism, racism, anti-EU, anti-austerity)

[0] Originally supported that they will unilaterally cancel all measures, but when they saw that they had chances to lead a coalition, blurred their position.
[1] Was the government that negotiated the first bailout, and the major coalition partner that negotiated the second bailout and bonds haircut.
[2] Was minor coalition partner that negotiated the second and haircut, before the were anti-austerity

Any government needs 151 of the 300 MPs in a vote of confidence or 120 as long as they are the majority of those present during the vote. After that to pass any law only a majority of the present MPs during the vote is required.

This means that the only government feasible is New Democracy with the Panhellenic Socialist Movement (the same coalition partners before this election, see notes [1][2] above). There is some talk about the Democratic Left to join them for the new coalition to gain more social acceptance than the old one, but it's not necessary.
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Old 2012-06-18, 18:56   Link #22063
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Is the naming behind "Coalition of The Radical Left" sort of like Brotherhood of Evil Mutants?
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Old 2012-06-18, 19:08   Link #22064
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Is the naming bebind "Coalition of Radical Left" sort of like Brotherhood of Evil Mutants?
Hell no, we wouldn't be caught dead running for office in Greece. We're behind the scenes, man. We're pulling Merkel's strings, maaaaan.
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Old 2012-06-18, 19:11   Link #22065
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I imagine there are some on the Left that are not Radical.



(In fact some are "totally bogus")
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Old 2012-06-18, 19:21   Link #22066
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And in the Bigger Picture news:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...lar-space.html

Voyager 1 is passing into true interstellar space ... the first object constructed by life on Earth ever to do so...
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Old 2012-06-18, 20:15   Link #22067
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And in the Bigger Picture news:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...lar-space.html

Voyager 1 is passing into true interstellar space ... the first object constructed by life on Earth ever to do so...
This was posted in another thread and has been re-posted in the media for the past six(?) months since scientists have no clear idea of where the solar wind stops and where insterstellar space starts; it could be like earths atmosphere that expands and contracts in a cyclical pattern and who knows, there could be gusts of wind out there. All in all it is a miracle that tecnology built 34 years ago has survived the freezing temperatures of deep stellar space and that we can still receive information from it with no relay stations anywhere on the solar system (when I was a kid everyone though by now we would have stations on the moon, mars and we would be starting to do missions on saturn and jupiter ). Sadly nowadays techology is better but is built to last as little as posible without the consumer noticing, gone are the times of cars and consumer electronics that were built to last, I bet by the time I get my own all purpose cultural cat girl it will last less than most phones do nowadays >_<
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Old 2012-06-18, 21:17   Link #22068
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Mayors back parents seizing control of schools
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85H0J620120618

This has the potential to turn on the wrong side...
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Old 2012-06-19, 00:31   Link #22069
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This was posted in another thread and has been re-posted in the media for the past six(?) months since scientists have no clear idea of where the solar wind stops and where insterstellar space starts; it could be like earths atmosphere that expands and contracts in a cyclical pattern and who knows, there could be gusts of wind out there. All in all it is a miracle that tecnology built 34 years ago has survived the freezing temperatures of deep stellar space and that we can still receive information from it with no relay stations anywhere on the solar system (when I was a kid everyone though by now we would have stations on the moon, mars and we would be starting to do missions on saturn and jupiter ). Sadly nowadays techology is better but is built to last as little as posible without the consumer noticing, gone are the times of cars and consumer electronics that were built to last, I bet by the time I get my own all purpose cultural cat girl it will last less than most phones do nowadays >_<
I mostly posted it to remind people that a lot of the stuff we thrash about in this thread is small peanuts to the Universe - some perspective is good.

I worked at NASA on a variety of programs during the 80s and early 90s (BSEE (digital controls) with a minor in astrophysics) so yeah I'm kind of familiar with the space program, astrophysics, science, engineering, etc.
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Old 2012-06-19, 00:38   Link #22070
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Mayors back parents seizing control of schools
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85H0J620120618

This has the potential to turn on the wrong side...
I can see it now, some red states have parents forcing schools to teach creationism and not evolution.
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Old 2012-06-19, 00:47   Link #22071
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I can see it now, some red states have parents forcing schools to teach creationism and not evolution.
While the rest of the world moves forward, the US descends into a Dark Age...

Actually I think we *are* in a kind of Dark Age, its just mapped differently with individual "enlightened" in virtual spaces while the roaming hordes are manipulated by bread and circuses.
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Old 2012-06-19, 01:18   Link #22072
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While the rest of the world moves forward, the US descends into a Dark Age...

Actually I think we *are* in a kind of Dark Age, its just mapped differently with individual "enlightened" in virtual spaces while the roaming hordes are manipulated by bread and circuses.
Rofl~ This is by far the best example in the state of US is right now. I have to forward this to my dad he'd get a laugh. He referred to the masses as: "The Walking Dead" after the show.
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Old 2012-06-19, 04:56   Link #22073
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Japanese authorities sat on data showing radiation spread
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85I06Y20120619
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Old 2012-06-19, 05:13   Link #22074
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just when you thought this group couldn't sink any lower...



On Wednesday, June 13, members of the Occupy movement protested against a conference dedicated to combatting child sex trafficking - thus, the Occupiers in essence were coming out in favor of one of society's most loathsome moral crimes.

The protesters mostly were members of Occupy Oakland Patriarchy, a group within the overall Occupy movement tasked with overthrowing our civilization's "patriarchy."

The conference which so infuriated them was called HEAT Watch, short for the National Human Exploitation AndTrafficking Watch Conference.
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Old 2012-06-19, 06:17   Link #22075
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This story is getting to me. I feel so bad that this poor woman is suffering so much over a flesh eating virus.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...aimee-copeland

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ATLANTA -- A Georgia woman fighting a flesh-eating disease is refusing to take pain medications during some procedures, partly because of her personal convictions, her father said.

Aimee Copeland despises the use of morphine in her treatment, despite its effectiveness at blocking her pain, her father said in a Friday online update on his daughter's condition. Her graduate-school study of holistic pain management techniques leads her to feel she's a "traitor to her convictions" when she uses drugs to manage her pain, Andy Copeland said.

He also said the morphine has been making his daughter groggy, confused and has given her unpleasant hallucinatory episodes.

Aimee Copeland, 24, developed necrotizing fasciitis after cutting her leg in a fall May 1 from a homemade zip line over a west Georgia river. Her left leg, other foot and both hands have been amputated.

On Tuesday, Copeland's condition was upgraded from critical to serious, "a major victory that cannot and should not be diminished," Andy Copeland wrote Friday on his blog, where he has been providing regular updates on her progress. The development came shortly after Aimee Copeland had her first successful skin graft.

"The area of her wound, which I saw for the first time on Sunday during a dressing change, is massive," her father wrote in Friday's update.

"The nurse who completed Aimee's dressing change was astonished at Aimee's insistence to avoid morphine during the procedure, as was her mother and I," he wrote. "I know the pain was significant, but Aimee's courage is greater."

The bacteria that attacked Aimee Copeland's wound releases a toxin that destroys skin, muscle and a layer of tissue below the skin known as fascia, her father says.

Despite the painful skin grafts, Aimee Copeland has crossed several milestones in recent weeks. She can breathe on her own, she no longer needs dialysis and she's now able to eat on her own, her father wrote. Although her major organs are all functioning well, Aimee Copeland still needs supplemental nutrition through a stomach tube.

This weekend, thousands of people are expected at a long-planned fund-raising event outside Atlanta to help the family with medical expenses. The two-day benefit concert in Aimee Copeland's hometown of Snellville begins at 5 p.m. Friday and continues through Saturday night.
Follow up story. She ended up pleading for painkillers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...6pLid%3D171000

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Flesh-eating bacteria victim Aimee Copeland is pleading for painkillers after skin graft surgery has left her feeling like a “patchwork quilt,” according to her father, Andy Copeland.

The Georgia student, 24, originally refused pain medications due in part to her personal convictions and graduate-school background in holistic pain management techniques. Her preferred method of dealing with the pain was meditation, but that has done little to assuage the sting of skin grafts and muscle flaps that were necessary to close a gaping wound on her abdomen and groin.

According to Dr. J. Blair Summitt, assistant professor of plastic surgery at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tenn., a skin graft transplant is a fairly straightforward procedure, but a painful one that often necessitates narcotic painkillers like morphine and Fentanyl for patients, ABC News reports.

“Aimee is now taking pain medication in as liberal a dose as can be prescribed. If she even dared to refuse taking it, which she wouldn’t, then the doctors would most certinaly administer it in an IV drip,” her father wrote in a blog post.

“Even so, the allowable doses of Morphine, Fentanyl and Lyrica are often inadequate to deal with the pain that Aimee is now experiencing,” he continued, adding that his daughter is now requesting medication ahead of schedule.

It was nearly seven weeks ago that Copeland sustained a cut on her calf during a fall from a homemade zip line over a west Georgia river. She was diagnosed with necrotizing fasciitis, an infection from a rare flesh-eating bacteria. Doctors were forced to amputate her left leg, right foot and hands.

Although it hurts her to talk, Copeland managed to wish her dad a happy Father’s Day on Sunday.
That last bit tugs at my emotions, too.

But can you imagine that kind of suffering? We just can't place ourselves in her shoes. She is suffering so terribly bad. I've been saying to myself that it just isn't fair with what she is going through. All from a measly cut.
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Old 2012-06-19, 06:47   Link #22076
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What I find darkly amusing is that there were three regional towns pretty much directly above the epicentre, yet its Melboune that gets the news headlines.
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Old 2012-06-19, 06:51   Link #22077
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I'm in pain from reading that. It's like something terrible out of FMA.

I hope the medical team gains something from this for better diagnosis and treatment in the future.

Can't imagine how much mental strength it takes to make it through this.
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Old 2012-06-19, 08:10   Link #22078
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I mostly posted it to remind people that a lot of the stuff we thrash about in this thread is small peanuts to the Universe - some perspective is good.

I worked at NASA on a variety of programs during the 80s and early 90s (BSEE (digital controls) with a minor in astrophysics) so yeah I'm kind of familiar with the space program, astrophysics, science, engineering, etc.
Although I agree that the stuff we bicker about are done by people who lost their marbles on this blue marble, I would like to point out that this old man is lying.

He didn't exactly work for NASA, that is his cover profile. He actually works for the CIA on various satellite-based mind-control programmes, notwithstanding replacing fluorine with other "better germ killing sanitisers" for our water purification as part of mind-control and hiding our alien origins (a.k.a Protoculture), amongst other things.

Even then, the NASA and CIA are just front covers for a NWO. This is all a conspiracy.
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Old 2012-06-19, 08:45   Link #22079
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If you'd just drink the water, it'd be all better
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Old 2012-06-19, 09:02   Link #22080
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If you'd just drink the water, it'd be all better
Drinking water from the faucet! Why on earth would someone do that?

Speaking about conspiracies, Stuxnet cyberattack by US a 'destabilizing and dangerous' course of action, security expert Bruce Schneier says
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