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View Poll Results: Fate/Zero - Episode 25 Rating
Perfect 10 78 49.06%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 44 27.67%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 14 8.81%
7 out of 10 : Good 14 8.81%
6 out of 10 : Average 2 1.26%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 1.26%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 0.63%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.63%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 1.89%
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Old 2012-06-23, 22:20   Link #101
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@Thess: Nonsense. If it weren't a dream of his then he wouldn't have responded to Shirou the way he did at the end. A personal desire and an ideal--he had both of these. We already knew that from when he suggested running away to Irisviel when they were on top of the castle.
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Old 2012-06-23, 22:25   Link #102
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So if Guinevere was Arthur's queen, does that make Saber a lesbian?
I think that thought had probably crossed Kiritsugu's mind back when he first summoned her. The disappointment for him then was as though there was some really bad mixup with a fast food order. Since then he just calls her Saber.

But for this episode highlight:

"Gil: Kirei Kitomine, what you see is exactly what you most desired."

Spoiler:
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Old 2012-06-23, 22:30   Link #103
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Aoi's condition ~> brain damage from lack of oxygen from being choked.
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Old 2012-06-23, 22:36   Link #104
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i am sad that saber didnt get to fight gilgamesh....the ending is just too weird.
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Old 2012-06-23, 22:49   Link #105
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Bleh.

Zero would have been better off just ending it with Saber attempting to destroy the grail, with her lovely face full of anguish. Most of this episode was just tying into Stay/Night, and the last thing I'd ever want is to associate myself with that mediocrity.

Oh well, overall, Zero was excellent. Some pacing issues in the first half, but easily forgiven by the second.
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Old 2012-06-23, 22:52   Link #106
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Little bit disappointed that plot device was used to keep Gilgamesh and Kirei alive .

Said this before but it's ironic that Kiritsugu's entire life was tragic except for the way he died.
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Old 2012-06-23, 22:59   Link #107
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that is because only those with regrets choose to join the war.
No, not quite. True, a hero's life is often filled with regrets that'll carry over to their incarnation which appears in the grail war, but some heroes (such as Fate/Stay's Lancer) are reasonably free from regret and only partiparticle in the grail war for the fun of it or some othe reason.

Plus, if you see 4:10-4:45 of this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gfXP...ure=plpp_video , then you'll see that it seems like the hero that is summoned has little choice/say in the matter...

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Most of this episode was just tying into Stay/Night, and the last thing I'd ever want is to associate myself with that mediocrity.
Mediocrity!? That may be true for the anime, but for the game, that's an insult!
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Old 2012-06-23, 23:13   Link #108
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Without FSN none of this stuff would even mean anything.
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Old 2012-06-23, 23:18   Link #109
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Personally, I believe it would be better had Aoi stayed dead.
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Old 2012-06-23, 23:26   Link #110
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i just feel like my brain was raped by someone with a broom stick & some cheese filled sausages........

was expecting Wavy-cwan to sniff Alexia's unused new shirt for the lols

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But for this episode highlight:

"Gil: Kirei Kitomine, what you see is exactly what you most desired."

Spoiler:
Gil's (failed) attempt trying to make profit out of the next Comiket.....
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Old 2012-06-23, 23:28   Link #111
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Despite the fact that ufotable faced a time limit for the episode and had to cram everything in and cut out some scenes, I thought it actually fared well for episode 25. Some moments did deliver the necessary emotional impact, for instance, the part when Kiritsugu was running around looking for survivors and Saber crying at the top of the hill. The pacing was also much better than the previous episode.

Although they cut out the Gilgamesh-in-the-mud scene, a part in the novel I was looking forward to, I'm glad that they showed a part of Lancelot's dialogue with Saber when he was dying, even if it was just Saber's flashback. Again, I'm certain there'll be more in the BD.

This episode isn't without its flaws - I thought the scene with Kariya and Sakura and Tokiomi's funeral was handled roughly, but the finale was still satisfying in the end, in the sense that it provided a solid lead-up to Stay Night with Saber stating again that she wants to undo her past and Kiritsugu and Shirou's exchange in the end.
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Old 2012-06-23, 23:28   Link #112
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@Thess: Nonsense. If it weren't a dream of his then he wouldn't have responded to Shirou the way he did at the end. A personal desire and an ideal--he had both of these. We already knew that from when he suggested running away to Irisviel when they were on top of the castle.
I'm not quite sure of that, he believed he couldn't turn his back on the ideal, because in his mind, everything would he suffered would become meaningless unless he achieved world peace, but at the heart of the matter, the guy was just broken (remember how Natalia described his 'talent')and all he wanted was all this bad stuff to stop. So he ended up seeking the assumed 'quick fix button' called the Holy Grail. Unfortunately, he didn't seem to think this though quite hard enough.

Ideologies and personal desires aren't mutually exclusive from each other.
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Old 2012-06-23, 23:57   Link #113
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ufotable handled that very badly imo. A totally different message came across, so it's no wonder Shinji103 was confused.
Well, its Shinji103, so no worries , even without reading the novels one can understand that .

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Gil's (failed) attempt trying to make profit out of the next Comiket.....
Try on Pixiv's doujin previews .
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Old 2012-06-24, 00:08   Link #114
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Well, its Shinji103, so no worries , even without reading the novels one can understand that .

You'd be surprised. I see people howling for Sakura's blood in some of the reviews I've seen for the ep already.
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Old 2012-06-24, 00:53   Link #115
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Next chapter that really needs to be released as an anime in order to connect perfectly with Fate/Zero:

1. Fate/Stay Night Heaven's Feel (Angra Mainyu is explained the most and his rebirth becomes one of the main theme that connects the most with Fate/Zero)

2. Fate/Hollow Ataraxia (Angra Mainyu is reborn as Avenger)
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Old 2012-06-24, 00:56   Link #116
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I'll vote this for Anime of the year.
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Old 2012-06-24, 01:36   Link #117
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So was there an announcement after the episode..?

Or are we going to have to wait until the type-moon FES. I'd love a HF anime adaptation by UFOtable, or a tsukihime anime/remake.
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Old 2012-06-24, 01:46   Link #118
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Hey guys! THIS just in. (Alright, I'm late by a day...)

It's from Urobuchi Gen's twitter account. So, what do y'all think? Simple reference, or perhaps...?
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Old 2012-06-24, 01:48   Link #119
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A very good, solid ending.

It didn't "wow" me, or anything, but it tied up all the loose ends, and it did a great job of tying this prequel back into the original Fate/Stay Night continuity. When it comes to not leaving anything unaccounted for, this finale was quite impressive.

I didn't like the inexplicable deus ex machina revival of Kirei - I would have preferred it if he hadn't been killed in the first place. And Aoi somehow surviving being seemingly choked to death was odd.

But other than that, I don't have much issue with the finale. It's a satisfying closure to Fate/Zero - Well, at least for those of us who liked Fate/Stay Night, I would think.

9/10 for Episode 25.
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Old 2012-06-24, 01:55   Link #120
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..it's merely a cover for the script on ep25. nothing special. They had been doing it for the past 24 already.
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