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Old 2012-06-21, 13:37   Link #701
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I like it to. But there are people complaining shes not the same lara without looking at the big picture. Its not her bad ass self YET.

Perhaps its not you guys being too harsh, but me being too nice and forgiving.
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Old 2012-06-21, 18:03   Link #702
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I'm sorry, my english is pretty bad. I don't understand ^that at all.
They said current trends and movie parodies.

Means they're just taking things from movies, current games *cough* God of War and other media.


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Imho Tomb Raider was first before Uncharted.
They just made her realistic which works well.
I've never been really a fan or TombRaider, but the new one interests me more than the old series.
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Old 2012-06-21, 18:18   Link #703
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It's a different story with the new Lara than with the new Dante. The former is just a younger version of the already established character whereas the latter is a new character altogether. Replacing Dante by ... this has got to be one of the biggest marketing and design f-ups Capcom has ever done. Everyone loved the original Dante, there's no 'top ten coolest characters' list without him, and there's no need to replace him.
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Old 2012-06-21, 19:07   Link #704
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It's a different story with the new Lara than with the new Dante. The former is just a younger version of the already established character whereas the latter is a new character altogether. Replacing Dante by ... this has got to be one of the biggest marketing and design f-ups Capcom has ever done. Everyone loved the original Dante, there's no 'top ten coolest characters' list without him, and there's no need to replace him.
Sorry, but not everybody is in love with the over-cliché character Dante was.
I'm much enjoying the new younger punk version.

I won't go too far on that, but for some kind of reboot it's nice.
Getting ride of a stereotype (a muscular long white haired guy is NOT original) for a fresher incarnation is just blasphemy for the hardcore fans.

And franckly : hardcore fans are a plague for people who're triyng to enjoy a game for what it is. That, and the fact they're irritating.
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Old 2012-06-21, 19:16   Link #705
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The irritating fact in DmC is that like in the AngryJoe interview. They still try to consider it as a retelling of the origin story. When it's not part of the original series.

Also old school fans already have a younger Dante in Tony Redgrave, the alias used by Dante and origin story in the first DMC novel, which they were expecting that that would happen, but not. The recton of that novel was the Vergil fight in DMC3, but if piece it together the novel and other media like the anime which is stated canon to the game is part of the original franchise.

And last the other irritating thing about DmC is the devs themselves. I could go back to 2010 and piece by piece each stuff, but rather than that I'll just wait if this bombs or not.
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Old 2012-06-21, 19:47   Link #706
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Does capcom have the rights to the old dante look and games? If so.. why did they change it? @_@

This story is too unique to be ruined by bad rep and reboot of a memorable character. should have been a entirely diffrent game.
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Old 2012-06-21, 19:53   Link #707
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Sorry, but not everybody is in love with the over-cliché character Dante was.
I'm much enjoying the new younger punk version.

I won't go too far on that, but for some kind of reboot it's nice.
Getting ride of a stereotype (a muscular long white haired guy is NOT original) for a fresher incarnation is just blasphemy for the hardcore fans.

And franckly : hardcore fans are a plague for people who're triyng to enjoy a game for what it is. That, and the fact they're irritating.
Your 'fresher incarnation' is even less original. You'll find dozens of his sort in any 90's saturday afternoon film on television. However, in my previous post I wasn't even talking about originality or anything to compare the two. My point is simply that there is no need to throw away one of the most beloved characters in gaming.
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Old 2012-06-21, 20:02   Link #708
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It was Keiji Infuane's idea for a westernization, then a backlash happened to capcom not just DmC, but other titles as well.

The thing is about the original DMC is that Capcom still has the rights to it, that's why Capcom said the table is open for anything, but basing in all the interviews they just wanted to try something new on this series, they can make a sequel to the original series or DmC2 anything is possible, but to me they're just looking at the sales now, if this doesn't reach their target goal, bet you the original DMC will be back.

Also another thing is that Itsuno doesn't want anymore the original Dante and any other original DMC characters to be in to be in other games. Capcom staff, persuaded him to add Dante, Trish and Vergil to be in MVC3/UMVC3 and the cross over game ProjectZone. Other than those games you don't see any DMC characters crossing over on any other games except the ones mentioned.
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Old 2012-06-21, 20:05   Link #709
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There's one thing I've learned in this business is never use the words 'original', 'deep' or 'realistic' to describe anything unless you're picking a fight

My stance with this new DmC remains the same- if they actually can make a really good and coherent story with respectable character development to show the change from punk to a more mature individual, then truly none of the other stuff matters in the end.

...IF they could do it, that is.

However, it does annoys me that some how having a more vulgar tone is suppose to make things Better? Relatable? Don't get me wrong I love the profanities and dirty sex jokes in Shadows of the Damned where it was hilarious and suits the tone, but Devil May Cry doesn't need it.
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Old 2012-06-21, 20:15   Link #710
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It's all about execution and proper presentation, to wow an audience.

In DmC they didn't do that one reason why there are skeptics and think this is not a good game.
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Old 2012-06-21, 20:27   Link #711
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DMC 5 sucks. CAPCOM did a reboot and it was like heck. Only the graphics were good, not the story though.

Plus the new dante is like EMO-PUNK-ROCK-GAY

Well, if the story goes interesting and interesting, I might give it a try. But it's not easy to move on after the 4 previous DMC series.
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Old 2012-06-22, 05:48   Link #712
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Your 'fresher incarnation' is even less original. You'll find dozens of his sort in any 90's saturday afternoon film on television. However, in my previous post I wasn't even talking about originality or anything to compare the two. My point is simply that there is no need to throw away one of the most beloved characters in gaming.
I didn't talk about originality either. I said "fresher". He's younger, a raw teenager, not an overtrained badass 40old man (well, at least he looks 40).

And to follow Kenjiharima's idea, just consider it as a spin-off/new game. It will make it easier.
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Old 2012-06-22, 06:16   Link #713
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Not my idea it's a fact that it's reboot non canon retelling of the origin story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxFPh1udmLE
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Old 2012-06-22, 07:01   Link #714
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Ugh he still has that hair style? It looks so douchy on him. Even the first dante look didn't have that badly.
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Old 2012-06-22, 08:22   Link #715
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I didn't talk about originality either. I said "fresher". He's younger, a raw teenager, not an overtrained badass 40old man (well, at least he looks 40).

And to follow Kenjiharima's idea, just consider it as a spin-off/new game. It will make it easier.
I'm sorry, but you did talk about originality, not in regards to the young Dante, but you said that the old one was not original. And that's just an argument you shouldn't bring up when the character you're defending is even less so.
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Old 2012-06-22, 10:05   Link #716
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I'm sorry, but you did talk about originality, not in regards to the young Dante, but you said that the old one was not original. And that's just an argument you shouldn't bring up when the character you're defending is even less so.
Fair enough. You got a point here.
But i'm not really defending it. Between those two, the new one is less boring to me.
That's all.

I was mostly reacting about the "everyone loved the old Dante" part.

Take the exemple of Lara Croft. The character didn't change at all, just her background story. I don't see the point. If they had change her a little bit, maybe I would...
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Old 2012-06-23, 21:44   Link #717
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Well their mix result ideas kinda back fires, because every time they show something alot know where it came from an example of that is the worm boss and the Futurama Slurm Queen which have ALOT of similarities storywise and look. It's not fresh or new it's already been done, they're just ripping off other media.

This is a non canon retelling of the origin story or an experiment. Also it's been said already that gamers that tired it, it's not at par nor near DMC3 level of gameplay nor speed. Which they said it would be better, but it's not.


Also other articles Donte/Dino aka FU is not gay. lol Damage control yet again.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/08/dm...ationalist-de/

http://gaygamer.net/2012/06/devil_ma..._declares.html
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Old 2012-06-23, 22:02   Link #718
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Well their mix result ideas kinda back fires, because every time they show something alot know where it came from an example of that is the worm boss and the Futurama Slurm Queen which have ALOT of similarities storywise and look. It's not fresh or new it's already been done, they're just ripping off other media.

This is a non canon retelling of the origin story or an experiment. Also it's been said already that gamers that tired it, it's not at par nor near DMC3 level of gameplay nor speed. Which they said it would be better, but it's not.


Also other articles Donte/Dino aka FU is not gay. lol Damage control yet again.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/08/dm...ationalist-de/

http://gaygamer.net/2012/06/devil_ma..._declares.html
It's funny and sad that NT set the bar by saying this game will beat DMC 3 when it's obvious that they don't have proof to back up their claims. There's no way a cut, paste, copy game unfortunately bearing its name can compare to the fast pace, challenging and technical greatest that DMC 3 had to offer.

Their way of maintaining of damage control isn't even that good because they're trying to fire back, but they're not successful at doing it. They're making a desperate attempt to save their butts at this point, and it's really sad -_-.
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Old 2012-06-24, 12:54   Link #719
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I was mostly reacting about the "everyone loved the old Dante" part.
Not as much as loving the old Dante, but hating the new one, honestly. I welcome change, but this one is so shitty I don't even know where to begin. Do I even need they to remind me of how teenagers nowaday are? I actually liked Nero more than this punk if you ask me.
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Old 2012-06-24, 13:22   Link #720
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Not as much as loving the old Dante, but hating the new one, honestly. I welcome change, but this one is so shitty I don't even know where to begin. Do I even need they to remind me of how teenagers nowaday are? I actually liked Nero more than this punk if you ask me.
Hahaha, I must admit he's really the typical punk teenager.
Maybe I'm too open to changes.
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