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Old 2012-06-03, 10:10   Link #461
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To me it is still not a excuse. I heard of more worse stories in history and some of those survivors made it out without fear and still lived a relatively good life. One such example in real life is Shōichi Yokoi, a Japanese soldier abandon during World War 2. He saw all his friends and fellow comrades either starve or kill each other for food or kill people to eat them as food. World War 2 ended in 1945, jump to 1972 Shōichi Yokoi was still alive and still hold his orders to attack Americans (didn't kill anyone). He surrendered of course and went back to Japan. A guy did that for 27 years, alone and came back got married and made a ton of money for his experience on T.V. These kids been there for more than I say couple of months and can't keep their calm.
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Old 2012-06-03, 10:35   Link #462
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And thats the difference. Yokoi was a soldier and was physically and mentally trained to endure hardship. The Pyramid Group are just ordinary civilians who suddenly find themselves in an unknown island and forced to survive under a cruel dictator who had their lives in his hands which broke their spirit to the point that they became his slaves.

It would be harsh to call them traitors or weaklings when it wasn't their fault they became that way. The Doctor is the one to blame since it was him that made them that way.
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Old 2012-06-03, 11:16   Link #463
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MrTerrorist that was a bad example, here is a better example. The majority of my family experienced what those people are facing on that island. Though much worse, my Grandmother, father, and mother are survivors of the Khmer Rouge. I hear stories about how it was like when I was a kid, and when I turned 14 I continue to hear the stories but this time I ask to hear them. My parents and grandmother still remember it, yet I don't see an ounce of fear in their eyes when they recalled it, they accept people can be monsters and the life that was there at the time. I hear stories of rape, people getting burn in their beds, massive gathering of machine killing, cannibalism, and much more. My family feels normal, yet they went through that. My family didn't have any friends they survived alone and when trouble did come they hid, living off frogs, snakes, and whatever they could find. Never once did they betray anyone.
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Old 2012-06-03, 12:13   Link #464
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My condolences to your family for surviving that terrible period.

Anyway, my point is just because someone is brave enough to stand up to something doesn't mean someone else can do the same thing. Humans are not perfect beings but flawed. We can be good as Angels or cruel as demons. We can be strong or we can be weak. We can be kind or be cruel. We can be smart or we can be idiotic.
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Old 2012-06-03, 12:43   Link #465
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I see your point, some people have weaker minds and stomach compared to myself. The only thing I fear is probably cockroaches yet seeing a human body without its legs doesn't disturb me. I find myself strange because of that. Anyway what is your prediction after all said in done in this arc? Don't mean it could be either a tragic or miracle, I mean what is Sengoku going to do with the people in that pyramid. I find it unlikely Sengoku will allow them in the group, rationally they done too many things to be trusted fear or not fear.

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Old 2012-06-16, 06:16   Link #466
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This guy really deserve to die ...
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Old 2012-06-16, 06:57   Link #467
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This guy really deserve to die ...
I agree with you, but he is going to live for a little while to heal Sensei. As for the people under his command, wonder how Sengoku is going to deal with them after everything is said and done. It seems unlikely Sengiku will allow them into the group with all they have done, if they show fear to one person, more than likely they are not going to hold when the group faces other creatures. Sengoku only invites those where he can trust without a doubt, those who people who helped the Doctor out of fear, sorry to say even if you say " I am sorry I am scared I am scared" doesn't mean much to me. There are consequences when you betray each other and my feeling is those who really helped the Doctor will not be let into the group, but have to fend for themselves.
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Old 2012-06-16, 07:47   Link #468
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F*ck that guy. I hope Sengoku and the others had a counter from his plan. lol at those faces of the guys who want to rape the women.
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Old 2012-06-16, 07:58   Link #469
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I'm a bit confused about this chapter. How did the girls got separated from Sengoku and the others?
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Old 2012-06-24, 17:38   Link #470
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New chapter is out, and Sengoku's team gotten beaten pretty good. Though it was all because they targeted the women, pretty low if they call themselves men. Looks like Sengoku's special forces of weird guys are making their own moves. When I was reading some other forums, some people were making some bad endings of this arc. One of them was all the girls got rape and killed and Sengoku was on the verge of killing the doctor until Yarai stopped him. Hope to god that isn't true, else wise I may dropped this.
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Old 2012-06-24, 17:54   Link #471
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lol too much suspense if the girls are going to be raped or not.

IMO, if ever one of the girls were raped and then killed. I'm pretty sure the popularity of this manga will go down. I bet the author wouldn't want that.

PS. I'm already preparing myself in case that will happen BUT I'm hoping it will not happen.
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Old 2012-06-24, 18:00   Link #472
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Yeah I am pretty sure, if people wanted to watch girls getting rape it would be the sick porno vids and mags they find in hentai. This Manga really depicts all types of characters, from those who are the brave to those of the lowest. Personally, I will beat guys like those to the point of death and I am not just saying it. I know I can and my girlfriend know this too.
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Old 2012-06-24, 18:05   Link #473
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Not sure if they toss in rape in WSM, or they have in the past? Find it kind of hard to have a rape chapter in this one. Then a few pages away you have Minoru dancing a jig in AKB49...

Once I seen that they were leaving the girls behind something like this was going to happen. The author seems to want to drive home that the girls are the achilles’ heel of the guys. Hopefully the doctor gets torn apart by several different monster species at once as they fight over his body...
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Old 2012-06-24, 18:08   Link #474
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Yeah. Also, this manga is from weekly shounen magazine. I doubt the author will go as far showing girls getting raped or maybe implied(hmm?). I really don't care if its going to be a cliche scenario where the girls are on an edge of getting raped and then suddenly being saved by someone. I'm fine with that as long as the raped doesn't happen.

PS. For some reason, I'm getting worked up too much
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Old 2012-06-24, 18:13   Link #475
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Its quite unfortunate because there are some sick people who are like that in real life. Well they already showed someone already rape in this series, so it is unlikely that it will happen again. It is a kind of rule in Manga to not draw the same scenario twice. Hopefully things will go right and a good ending of this arc. Otherwise, my girlfriend is going to end up breaking her 2200 dollar laptop since this is her favorite Manga.
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Old 2012-06-24, 18:17   Link #476
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Really there was? Though I'm not interested to know when that raped happened. Good thing that I already forgot that scene and I hope they won't add another one.
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Old 2012-06-24, 18:22   Link #477
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Be at ease my friend, I am confident it won't happen. It will ruin the story and dropped the rating of this Manga considerably. Meaning no rating means author gets fired and most likely not going to write again. Pretty sure Yoshinobu Yamada isn't aiming to go jobless.
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Old 2012-06-24, 18:28   Link #478
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So the Otakus will save the world ?
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Old 2012-06-24, 18:41   Link #479
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Be at ease my friend, I am confident it won't happen. It will ruin the story and dropped the rating of this Manga considerably. Meaning no rating means author gets fired and most likely not going to write again. Pretty sure Yoshinobu Yamada isn't aiming to go jobless.
Though you're not wrong about the ratings dropping should things develop the way they realistically would in a 2-hour timeframe, do you understand how the manga industry works? If a mangaka's work gets cancelled (not fired, cancelled. They have editors for a reason) due to low ratings there's no reason they can't start up a new work. Please don't assume the author will permanently be out of a job.

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So the Otakus will save the world ?
Seems like it. Though if those WERE the true translations for their names, I find it hilarious. I guess no one liked WuFei (me neither)? Hahaha

Lastly, Nishikori is a dick. Ruthless, and brilliant sure. But he's still a dick.
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Old 2012-06-24, 23:49   Link #480
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yeah there wont be any girl raped .. killed yeah that's a given and hopefully the mighty otaku trio will save the girls somehow .. MINA POWER! lol
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