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Old 2012-07-02, 12:07   Link #3781
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Only by about 150 years compared to Saber. I think it's more that he's the only one who cared enough about strategy to discern his identity.
i think it is a bit more then 150 since Saber's time period would follow the fall of Rome and withdraw of the Legions form the British Isles.
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Old 2012-07-02, 12:08   Link #3782
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Only by about 150 years compared to Saber. I think it's more that he's the only one who cared enough about strategy to discern his identity.
Alexander was much better versed in history and arts. Plus, he actually conquered Babylonia and the surrounding regions. If anyone were to discern Gilgamesh's identity, it would have been Alexander.
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Old 2012-07-02, 13:19   Link #3783
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i think it is a bit more then 150 since Saber's time period would follow the fall of Rome and withdraw of the Legions form the British Isles.
My bad, yeah, misread his dates. Thought it said 356 AD, but it says BC. So yeah, about 850-900 years or so.
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Old 2012-07-02, 15:27   Link #3784
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If Iskander was the only one to figure out Gilgamesh's true identity without being told explicitly, would that make him the smartest Servant or was he just more knowledgeable in that respect?
That would hardly prove anything beyond Rider and Saber, because the latter was the only Servant other than Rider who even had a real chance and sufficient information about Gil to try and discern his identity.

Lancer's only real exposure to him were a few minutes in the harbor fight, Caster was too insane to care and think about identities beyond Saber's, which he still got wrong, Berserk isn't capable of coherent thought, and Assassin knew from the start because they were cooperating.
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Old 2012-07-03, 05:58   Link #3785
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Unhappy pls answer me

sorry but pls answer will fate coming out another series ? Just like zero fatestaynight
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Old 2012-07-03, 07:08   Link #3786
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sorry but pls answer will fate coming out another series ? Just like zero fatestaynight
Nothing is planned. But it seems Ufotable is interested in adapting Heavens Feel.

But there is an anime adaption of spin-off manga called Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA in production.
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Old 2012-07-03, 14:50   Link #3787
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Why does Kiritsugu get so little screen time in the anime? I watched Fate/Zero expecting him to kick ass all the time but he mostly stays in the sideline. He only had like two major fights.
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Old 2012-07-03, 15:10   Link #3788
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Why does Kiritsugu get so little screen time in the anime? I watched Fate/Zero expecting him to kick ass all the time but he mostly stays in the sideline. He only had like two major fights.
Because a smart person avoids fights (where you can die in) and kills from a distance.
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Old 2012-07-03, 15:16   Link #3789
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"If Iskander was the only one to figure out Gilgamesh's true identity without being told explicitly, would that make him the smartest Servant or was he just more knowledgeable in that respect?"

Yeah. As stated above, he was the only one who really approached things like a (somewhat haphazard) military campaign. Additionally, dying in Babylonia may have made a slight impression on him, in life...

Then again, Gil figured out who Berserker was (I think that this was not as explicit in the anime, but was clearly stated in the book), so he was obviously able to discern stuff when he set his mind to it. He also had the benefit of the early Assassin intel, but I don't really know as that helped him very much.

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Old 2012-07-03, 16:13   Link #3790
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Why does Kiritsugu get so little screen time in the anime? I watched Fate/Zero expecting him to kick ass all the time but he mostly stays in the sideline. He only had like two major fights.
...Which is still more than any other Master besides Kirei, who had two like him.

There were few fights in general, especially for the Masters. Their numbers aren't a good way to measure screen time, which Kiritsugu had plenty of. Sounds like you just wanted more action period.

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Then again, Gil figured out who Berserker was (I think that this was not as explicit in the anime, but was clearly stated in the book), so he was obviously able to discern stuff when he set his mind to it. He also had the benefit of the early Assassin intel, but I don't really know as that helped him very much.
Uh, he knew about Berserker's identity because of the Assassin intel. It's stated outright in the novel:

"The King of Heroes had allowed for Berserker’s continued existence after discovering his true name in his investigation of Matō Kariya."

Obviously said investigation was carried out by the Assassins and their spying on the Masters as per his idea and Kirei's command.

How could he have discovered it otherwise when Berserker was always covered in fog when they fought.
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Old 2012-07-03, 17:02   Link #3791
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...Which is still more than any other Master besides Kirei, who had two like him.

There were few fights in general, especially for the Masters. Their numbers aren't a good way to measure screen time, which Kiritsugu had plenty of. Sounds like you just wanted more action period.
No, it's just that Kiritsugu seems out of focus. I mean, for example, Kiritsugu and Kirei's conflict of ideologies didn't get as much emphasis as other stuff. Maybe it's more clear in the novel that Kiritsugu is the main character, I dunno.
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Old 2012-07-03, 17:09   Link #3792
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Why does Kiritsugu get so little screen time in the anime? I watched Fate/Zero expecting him to kick ass all the time but he mostly stays in the sideline. He only had like two major fights.
because FZ is not a fighting show and Kiritsugu isn't type to fight someone head on when he can snipe them.
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Old 2012-07-03, 17:53   Link #3793
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Nothing is planned. But it seems Ufotable is interested in adapting Heavens Feel.
Seem!? What source do you have to come to such a conclusion??
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Old 2012-07-04, 04:58   Link #3794
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Seem!? What source do you have to come to such a conclusion??
It is not the most reliable source, but here.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=238
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Old 2012-07-04, 08:25   Link #3795
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It is not the most reliable source, but here.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=238
I guess we'll see what happens. Zero did quite well after all.

And Ufotable is the only acceptable studio for anything Type-Moon.
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Old 2012-07-05, 03:48   Link #3796
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I guess we'll see what happens. Zero did quite well after all.

And Ufotable is the only acceptable studio for anything Type-Moon.
i quite agree
Because its so famous isn't it? If its not why will there be a fate /zero
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Old 2012-07-05, 07:40   Link #3797
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The grail requires all servants and masters to die before activating? or does it only require the servants dead?

Also, how many magi would be needed to rival a servant in power?
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Old 2012-07-05, 08:01   Link #3798
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Only Servants.
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Old 2012-07-05, 15:11   Link #3799
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The grail requires all servants and masters to die before activating? or does it only require the servants dead?
Only Servants, and it's not all of them either.

Anywhere between 5~7 will do the trick (causing the Hole in the Sky to materialize).

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Also, how many magi would be needed to rival a servant in power?
It depends on the magus and the Servant.

A typical magus stands no chance, but someone like Aoko can fight on even ground with a Servant.

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Old 2012-07-05, 18:54   Link #3800
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I guess we'll see what happens. Zero did quite well after all.

And Ufotable is the only acceptable studio for anything Type-Moon.
i wouldn't mind if Shinbou and Shaft got involve in HF anime
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