To Aru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Discussion (Archives)

[ellifeedn]

Yeah, my idea was for a super psychic soldier made from combining various aspects of high level psychics. Such a thing is not really feasible now that I think about it. You can ignore it if you want.

[Wilfriback]

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

Still, isn't Worst supposed to just be a Mikoto at the age of Touma? What kind of growth spurt is that? That's a big difference in just a few years of "age" difference.

Different chemical sustance were used on Worst series thus the body has a different shape.

[Okashira]

Worst isn't at Touma's age, Worst body growth was supposed to be increased to it's strongest point (animes usually go for the 18~23 range), she is more on Seria's age range than in Touma's, but she might be even older than her or something.

Also, remember that Worst growth was "ideal", Mikoto isn't going to naturally get there just by aging; she should if she would actively work towards it, but it may be too late after all we don't know at what age Mikoto started worry about having a -erm, healthier body. She does struck me as the type that follows a healthy life, after all she is Misuzu's child.

[Wilfriback]

Well, from Daihaisesai you can see both have different nutritional trends and that affects growth.

[Ashaman]

Actually, isn't Worst often described as High School age?

[Clarami]

Even if she is, she's still a clone based off a 14 year old middle school girl that we all know and love. It's just that her physique makes her look like she's older than the original herself.

[Destined_Fate]

Originally Posted by Okashira

Worst isn't at Touma's age, Worst body growth was supposed to be increased to it's strongest point (animes usually go for the 18~23 range), she is more on Seria's age range than in Touma's, but she might be even older than her or something.

Also, remember that Worst growth was "ideal", Mikoto isn't going to naturally get there just by aging; she should if she would actively work towards it, but it may be too late after all we don't know at what age Mikoto started worry about having a -erm, healthier body. She does struck me as the type that follows a healthy life, after all she is Misuzu's child.

I dunno. We all saw how her mother turned it so Mikoto ending up stacked when she reaches adulthood isn't that farfetched. Everyone keeps telling her to drink milk to so...

Mikoto being more flat chested may be because she's very athletic as the sports events showed. Hard to get stacked at that age when you're running around ever and burning so many calories.

[Phibrizzo]

Normally I hear 14 is choose as the peak age by japan culture (could be wrong, I read this ages ago).

[Destined_Fate]

Not really, 14 isn't the peak age by far. There's a big difference between a Japanese 14 year old girl and a 20 year old Japanese woman.

[Phibrizzo]

As a cultural belief... not as a factual scientific fact.

[Destined_Fate]

That depends who you ask since that isn't a cultural census in Japan. Besides, all the major idols in Japan aren't 14 year old girls anyway and they're usually seen as what is ideal. Though they all do look pretty young but so do the stars at Hollywood.

[desrtsku]

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

That depends who you ask since that isn't a cultural census in Japan.

That's the lolicon Otaku POV, 14 and beyond are generally old-hags for them (even 13 is barely safe ) ... but you can't take that seriously though. It doesn't need real logical explanation or anything, it just shows how twisted one's mentality is when they are obsessed over some kind of idom.
<----- perfect example

Though they all do look pretty young but so do the stars at Hollywood.

... huh ... did I miss something? Most Hollywood stars look like ancestors to me, or else the ones you're talking about aren't the most famous or new ones I've never heard of >.>

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

Not really, 14 isn't the peak age by far. There's a big difference between a Japanese 14 year old girl and a 20 year old Japanese woman.

Is ... it really that flagrant? then what's with all those 14-year-old girls working in soapland?!

[Destined_Fate]

Most likely because by the time they're 20 they wouldn't want to work there or have already gotten married? The Japanese family structure is far more strict than over here in the West.

[desrtsku]

^ I don't really get the answer
You know that only major (20+) can "legally" work in soapland right? To be blunt, the issue is more about how they managed to work there with their so called "not so 20s like 14 year-old-bodies" rather than the motives.

On topic : Well, my purpose isn't to prove that Miko-chin will be doomed to be a pettanko for the rest of her life, though. Everyone can change greatly in a few years, no matter how small they are (unless it's genetic). Just like how Wendy who's got a loli body can be so ... glamorous if she were a bit older (I'm against that btw, loli should stay loli for the rest of their lives) >.> ... but the possibilities she won't grow that much still exist.

[Ilidsor]

Sorry to drag this back to Kakine but I just had this genius thought. It was like an epiphany.

The person Kakine wants to save is the person sleeping inside the windowless building that Othinus wants to make a holistic esper.

Spoiler for Evidence:

Okay to start if off note that Kakine wanted to negotiate with Aliester for something and he was willing to go to ridiculous lengths to do it. That's why he wanted to kill Accelerator and become the Main Plan, so Aliester had no choice but to listen to him. He also tried studying underline for it, and mentioned he tried many other things. He explicitly stated that he didn't care about rankings, just negotiating with Aliester. So the question is: what could he have possibly wanted from Aliester so badly?

In Volume 15 he says "In the end you are the same as me, unable to protect anybody." Add to this line how in this series there is a lot of focus on people wanting to protect people. This leads me to the conclusion that Kakine desperately wants to save somebody. But Kakine is a level five with a power that could literally do anything (I'm guessing with his powers and Academy City's medical technology they could save any life no matter the illness). So the person is likely being held prisoner or hostage, but again Kakine is a level five, who could hold someone hostage from him? If it was just an issue of him not knowing where they were being held prisoner then Kakine would be focusing on finding the person and there would be much faster ways of doing that (holding hostage a few board of directors members etc). So I'm left to conclude he/she is in the only place that a level five couldn't break into: the windowless building.

Add to that how Kakine's coming return was revealed in the same volume that it was revealed Aliester had someone in the building and you get the reasons for my theory.

Of course all of this depends on Kakine wanting to save someone, so if it turns out that wasn't his goal this theory will completely fall through I just think it's likely given everything in the series so far.

[GoddyofAus]

Originally Posted by Ilidsor

Sorry to drag this back to Kakine but I just had this genius thought. It was like an epiphany.

The person Kakine wants to save is the person sleeping inside the windowless building that Othinus wants to make a holistic esper.

Spoiler for Evidence:

Okay to start if off note that Kakine wanted to negotiate with Aliester for something and he was willing to go to ridiculous lengths to do it. That's why he wanted to kill Accelerator and become the Main Plan, so Aliester had no choice but to listen to him. He also tried studying underline for it, and mentioned he tried many other things. He explicitly stated that he didn't care about rankings, just negotiating with Aliester. So the question is: what could he have possibly wanted from Aliester so badly?

In Volume 15 he says "In the end you are the same as me, unable to protect anybody." Add to this line how in this series there is a lot of focus on people wanting to protect people. This leads me to the conclusion that Kakine desperately wants to save somebody. But Kakine is a level five with a power that could literally do anything (I'm guessing with his powers and Academy City's medical technology they could save any life no matter the illness). So the person is likely being held prisoner or hostage, but again Kakine is a level five, who could hold someone hostage from him? If it was just an issue of him not knowing where they were being held prisoner then Kakine would be focusing on finding the person and there would be much faster ways of doing that (holding hostage a few board of directors members etc). So I'm left to conclude he/she is in the only place that a level five couldn't break into: the windowless building.

Add to that how Kakine's coming return was revealed in the same volume that it was revealed Aliester had someone in the building and you get the reasons for my theory.

Of course all of this depends on Kakine wanting to save someone, so if it turns out that wasn't his goal this theory will completely fall through I just think it's likely given everything in the series so far.

That sounds pretty plausable.

Spoiler:

Perhaps he has a little sister or a L.I that's being held hostage. That's usually the way Japanese light novels go to amplify that attachment.

[leukrota]

I like Ilidsor's idea... Though if that turns out to be true, Kakine could face a tragic fate. It would sad if Kakine got his body back along new found powers to save the girl only to be instantly crushed by a magic god.

[Mr.Kyon]

Originally Posted by leukrota

I like Ilidsor's idea... Though if that turns out to be true, Kakine could face a tragic fate. It would sad if Kakine got his body back along new found powers to save the girl only to be instantly crushed by a magic god.

And Kamijou saves him and he joins the harem. The circle of life!

[Acer]

Not in my wildest dreams I want that to happen

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Mr.Kyon

And Kamijou saves him and he joins the harem. The circle of life!

Nonsense, obviously Accelerator would channel his innermost Kamijou and pull out all the trademarks infringement to redeem Kakine and make him into the next Harem lead of the series.