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Flawfinder · 2012-07-05, 00:00

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Come on, so what if they're "generic?" (How many characters are not these days?)

Accepting generic characters is like me accepting CGI. There's something really wrong about standards if dull, weightless crap is the norm now.

justsomeguy · 2012-07-05, 00:07

When's the last time there was a none-generic character? With so many new series constantly being pumped out, practically everything has being tried already. How the writer uses the characters in the story is more important than the characters being "generic."

Flawfinder · 2012-07-05, 00:16

No, giving the character a personality is the important thing, because I can't care for a character that feels artificial (aka, almost all the characters in Fate/Zero). The Sankarea anime tried to give them personality, but after Rea turned into a zombie, she lost all of it. Chihiro has nothing for him besides his zombie fetish, which isn't a personality trait. Wanko is okay, but her weak love for Chihiro annoyed me. Rea's parents are fine.

I'm not asking for the characters to not be stereotypes. I'm asking for some life to them.

Edit: Alternatively, the characters can be funny. I can accept a generic character if they're funny. I did not laugh once during this show, so guess how I rate its comedy.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera · 2012-07-05, 11:44

How a character has "life" also comes down to personal opinion.

I feel like a lot of the characters in Fate/Zero had "life" to them actually. Lots of distinct differences, beliefs, etc.

But I do agree that a bunch of the characters in Sankarea (with how the anime was) could make you snooze after a short time since there was nothing BEHIND the characters really. They just..."are"...

Flawfinder · 2012-07-05, 12:43

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Originally Posted by RX-78GP04G Gerbera

How a character has "life" also comes down to personal opinion.

I feel like a lot of the characters in Fate/Zero had "life" to them actually. Lots of distinct differences, beliefs, etc.

But I do agree that a bunch of the characters in Sankarea (with how the anime was) could make you snooze after a short time since there was nothing BEHIND the characters really. They just..."are"...

Well, Fate Zero was a bit of a bad example, as the characters clearly do have emotion and depth. It's just that the show was terrible at showing them because they all have the same super serious personality.

As for Sankarea, the characters had some personality in the beginning. Moreso than in the manga. But after Rea became a zombie, they just lost it.

RX-78GP04G Gerbera · 2012-07-05, 12:49

Well, I'd say it fit perfectly considering they were in a "war" where they (felt) they had to kill, literally, every other participant and their Servant in order to win, lol. But if they were to show them in between wars or something, we'd probably see different sides to some of them. We did catch a few glimpses at the very beginning.

And yeah, Rea seemed more interesting at first like when we saw her screaming down the well and her initial hangouts with Furuya, but now all the attempts at being a "normal girl" feel a bit moot at times given her becoming a zombie comes with its own set of problems, like how she's kept cooped up in the house a lot and whatnot.

Midonin · 2012-07-05, 16:43

Streams were a week behind. Such is the internet.

I know they're completely different genres with completely different goals, but of the works in Mitsuru Hattori's oeuvre that have been turned into anime, I prefer Umisho a little more. It played faster and looser with everything about itself, but it also had more material to work with. The tone was more appropriate to my tastes, but that's not to say Sankarea was bad. That the same author could go from nude swimming to zombies is feat in itself. This story does have more layers, so Hattori's writing has become somewhat more polished since then.

Rea's story was heartbreaking, though the show took a while to find its legs and have Rea actually become a zombie. Did make us feel more for her. Wanko still stands as one of my favorite characters from the show, and gramps provided some nice laughs on his own. I'd expect a second season to do more with the premise, now that it's just starting to roll, as the last scene hinted at.

I can appreciate the artistic value of the series, and the adaptation was fairly well done... Umisho just lines up with my interests more.

Coldlight · 2012-07-07, 07:15

"I don't want to have any regrets."

I liked this episode. They also kept the good looking artistic visuals up to this point. The dialogue scene with Chihiro and Rea back in the abandoned bowling alley was nice. Though this episode was largely anime-original, I don't think it derails the story to endanger future chances of adapting more material from the source.

There was no strong sense of closure; but I believe it implied an intention not to end it all here. A strong signal to me that there is an intention for a sequel in the future. There's still much more to come, after all. Rea declaring that she intended to return to school and Chihiro's plans to preserve her using certain methods could serve as a preview of a few things yet to come.

Spoiler for more:

I'm a bit let down that I didn't get to see that iconic (well, to readers) "morning bicycle ride" scene get animated yet, though. I have high hopes for a sequel in the future.
Because I too, don't want to have any regrets.

Kyuu · 2012-07-08, 04:59

Problem solved:

Spoiler:

SRanger · 2012-07-08, 20:19

manga is still ongoing, so should we expect a season 2 if sales are strong (which from what I've heard, it doesn't sound good)

I pretty much only watched this show for Wanko.

Lord of Fire · 2012-07-10, 10:22

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Originally Posted by SRanger

manga is still ongoing, so should we expect a season 2 if sales are strong (which from what I've heard, it doesn't sound good)

I pretty much only watched this show for Wanko.

BD sales are 1,487 for volume 1, which is even lower than I had expected. And last I heard, the manga didn't really do any better than usual either (at least, I'm not familiar with any significant boost in sales), so I think we should pray for a miracle if we want to see more.

**monir** · 2012-07-12, 05:30

So I just finished watching this series and the only question that comes to mind: Is there more to it? I'm echoing a lot of fans in the thread that the ending was anything but one. I want to know what happened in ep 12. Did she bite him? Why? Also was anyone able to explain the ending for episode 12? I'll comb through the thread if I have to, but feel free to write one if there isn't one yet.

The show could have ended at episode 11, but not at episode 12.

This isn't even an open ended ending. I seriously thought there would be a preview at the end credit for episode 13. So yes, does the manga continue? I must know what happens next.

FredFriendly · 2012-07-12, 05:42

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Originally Posted by monir

So I just finished watching this series and the only question that comes to mind: Is there more to it? I'm echoing a lot of fans in the thread that the ending was anything but one. I want to know what happened in ep 12. Did she bite him? Why? Also was anyone able to explain the ending for episode 12? I'll comb through the thread if I have to, but feel free to write one if there isn't one yet.

The show could have ended at episode 11, but not at episode 12.

This isn't even an open ended ending. I seriously thought there would be a preview at the end credit for episode 13. So yes, does the manga continue? I must know what happens next.

The manga is still on-going, and is way past where the anime left off. Looks like the producers are waiting to see if the anime made the franchise profitable enough before they decide to do a second season. Don't give up. Look at Moyashimon, it just got a second season after a five year hiatus.

ogon_bat · 2012-07-12, 08:32

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Originally Posted by Lord of Fire

so I think we should pray for a miracle if we want to see more.

I think we should wait for the next (and last) OVA and be contempt.

Kismet-chan · 2012-07-19, 19:48

Got around to listening to the official soundtrack today. The music particularly added a whole lot to the experience of watching this show for me, and I thought all of the BGM was very appropriate for the plot/mood. (There are even certain tracks I even keep in mind while going over later parts of the manga that have not yet been adapted).

The full version of Fuhai (the creepy yet pretty almost Halloween-esque music that often played when Furuya was writing in his diary) is haunting and charming to listen to. It was my personal fav BGM piece of the entire series. It also very appropriately translates to 'decay'. The track after it, Utsukushiki Kyoufu, is kind of epic, too.

Oh, and the cover/booklet and CD artwork are pretty. :3

Liddo-kun · 2012-11-16, 07:04

Watched up to episode 3:

Spoiler:

ookamigirl · 2013-01-01, 08:30

OVA 2

Spoiler for plot:

Lord of Fire · 2013-01-01, 11:15

Spoiler for 14:

From what I've heard, episode 13 seems to hint at there being more in store for us in the near future. I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know, but I wouldn't mind more of this show, even if it wasn't all that well-received as I hoped it would be.

romcom89 · 2013-01-01, 12:17

Which Chapter of the Manga ends the Anime

~Yami~ · 2013-01-09, 09:52

I think ep 13 and ep 14 are well-done...

now let's hope there will be a lot of demand for second season since I'm interested with that Boyle Professor...

glad that both Babu and Rea are aware about their body condition... I hope this series will have a happy ending although the chances are pretty slim

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Flawfinder Loves the Experience Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Earth...hopefully	No, giving the character a personality is the important thing, because I can't care for a character that feels artificial (aka, almost all the characters in Fate/Zero). The Sankarea anime tried to give them personality, but after Rea turned into a zombie, she lost all of it. Chihiro has nothing for him besides his zombie fetish, which isn't a personality trait. Wanko is okay, but her weak love for Chihiro annoyed me. Rea's parents are fine. I'm not asking for the characters to not be stereotypes. I'm asking for some life to them. Edit: Alternatively, the characters can be funny. I can accept a generic character if they're funny. I did not laugh once during this show, so guess how I rate its comedy. __________________ My Awesome Anime Blog: Standing On My Neck

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RX-78GP04G Gerbera Om nom nom Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Albany Age: 27	reply How a character has "life" also comes down to personal opinion. I feel like a lot of the characters in Fate/Zero had "life" to them actually. Lots of distinct differences, beliefs, etc. But I do agree that a bunch of the characters in Sankarea (with how the anime was) could make you snooze after a short time since there was nothing BEHIND the characters really. They just..."are"... __________________ "I'll show you that a superior mobile suit has its limits when it goes up against a superior pilot!" - Char Aznable, The Red Comet "Come on! I don't feel like losing!" - Johnny Ridden, The Crimson Lightning "Hatred is the root of all war! That's common sense, boy!" - Anavel Gato, The Nightmare of Solomon

2012-07-05, 12:49	Link #846
RX-78GP04G Gerbera Om nom nom Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Albany Age: 27	reply Well, I'd say it fit perfectly considering they were in a "war" where they (felt) they had to kill, literally, every other participant and their Servant in order to win, lol. But if they were to show them in between wars or something, we'd probably see different sides to some of them. We did catch a few glimpses at the very beginning. And yeah, Rea seemed more interesting at first like when we saw her screaming down the well and her initial hangouts with Furuya, but now all the attempts at being a "normal girl" feel a bit moot at times given her becoming a zombie comes with its own set of problems, like how she's kept cooped up in the house a lot and whatnot. __________________ "I'll show you that a superior mobile suit has its limits when it goes up against a superior pilot!" - Char Aznable, The Red Comet "Come on! I don't feel like losing!" - Johnny Ridden, The Crimson Lightning "Hatred is the root of all war! That's common sense, boy!" - Anavel Gato, The Nightmare of Solomon

2012-07-07, 07:15	Link #848
Coldlight SayaKyou 120% Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Under the piercing blue sky	"I don't want to have any regrets." I liked this episode. They also kept the good looking artistic visuals up to this point. The dialogue scene with Chihiro and Rea back in the abandoned bowling alley was nice. Though this episode was largely anime-original, I don't think it derails the story to endanger future chances of adapting more material from the source. There was no strong sense of closure; but I believe it implied an intention not to end it all here. A strong signal to me that there is an intention for a sequel in the future. There's still much more to come, after all. Rea declaring that she intended to return to school and Chihiro's plans to preserve her using certain methods could serve as a preview of a few things yet to come. Spoiler for more: Also, a certain character who gets to throw a wrench into the equation still hasn't appeared yet. I'm a bit let down that I didn't get to see that iconic (well, to readers) "morning bicycle ride" scene get animated yet, though. I have high hopes for a sequel in the future. Because I too, don't want to have any regrets. __________________ Miracles and magic do exist. I have no regrets.

2012-07-05, 16:43	Link #847
Midonin Last Engage Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida	Streams were a week behind. Such is the internet. I know they're completely different genres with completely different goals, but of the works in Mitsuru Hattori's oeuvre that have been turned into anime, I prefer Umisho a little more. It played faster and looser with everything about itself, but it also had more material to work with. The tone was more appropriate to my tastes, but that's not to say Sankarea was bad. That the same author could go from nude swimming to zombies is feat in itself. This story does have more layers, so Hattori's writing has become somewhat more polished since then. Rea's story was heartbreaking, though the show took a while to find its legs and have Rea actually become a zombie. Did make us feel more for her. Wanko still stands as one of my favorite characters from the show, and gramps provided some nice laughs on his own. I'd expect a second season to do more with the premise, now that it's just starting to roll, as the last scene hinted at. I can appreciate the artistic value of the series, and the adaptation was fairly well done... Umisho just lines up with my interests more.

2012-07-08, 04:59	Link #849
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SRanger Remember, no moe. Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Illinois, California	manga is still ongoing, so should we expect a season 2 if sales are strong (which from what I've heard, it doesn't sound good) I pretty much only watched this show for Wanko. __________________

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monir cho~ kakkoii Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 3rd Planet	So I just finished watching this series and the only question that comes to mind: Is there more to it? I'm echoing a lot of fans in the thread that the ending was anything but one. I want to know what happened in ep 12. Did she bite him? Why? Also was anyone able to explain the ending for episode 12? I'll comb through the thread if I have to, but feel free to write one if there isn't one yet. The show could have ended at episode 11, but not at episode 12. This isn't even an open ended ending. I seriously thought there would be a preview at the end credit for episode 13. So yes, does the manga continue? I must know what happens next. __________________ Pick-up lines! And Solace. Sig by TheEroKing. Space Brothers Executive member of the ASS. Ready to flee at the first sign of trouble.

2012-07-19, 19:48	Link #855
Kismet-chan The Chaotic Dreamer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: On the other side of the hill Age: 21	Got around to listening to the official soundtrack today. The music particularly added a whole lot to the experience of watching this show for me, and I thought all of the BGM was very appropriate for the plot/mood. (There are even certain tracks I even keep in mind while going over later parts of the manga that have not yet been adapted). The full version of Fuhai (the creepy yet pretty almost Halloween-esque music that often played when Furuya was writing in his diary) is haunting and charming to listen to. It was my personal fav BGM piece of the entire series. It also very appropriately translates to 'decay'. The track after it, Utsukushiki Kyoufu, is kind of epic, too. Oh, and the cover/booklet and CD artwork are pretty. :3 __________________

2012-11-16, 07:04	Link #856
Liddo-kun Come on everyone Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nanairogaoka	Watched up to episode 3: Spoiler: I wonder if this anime is aimed to trigger strong anger among viewers? Rea's dad is is a mentally damaged man. Got interested in the plot because I haven't watched an anime with a zombie girl as main character. And the zombie cat eating leaves, hmm.. __________________ My precure items collection / Anime Conventions that I've visited (updated: 4/17) / Stamp collection Last edited by Liddo-kun; 2012-11-18 at 10:11.

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ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	OVA 2 Spoiler for plot: The mystery girl was interesting. Seems like their family collects stray girls. The new girl really had it in for Rea. It was very strange. Seems like it was all just a bad dream by Rea's stepmother. It was a pretty interesting ova. __________________ My new Blog --> ookami (anime, manga, movies, JDrama, music, Japan..) & latest reviews Last edited by ookamigirl; 2013-01-01 at 08:57.

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Lord of Fire The Voice of Reason Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Age: 36	Spoiler for 14: Apparently, Aria's jealousy of Rea and Chihiro getting closer and closer runs very, very deep, to the point where she tries breaking them apart in her dreams. Still, if the dream was a sign for her to change her ways, why did Rea, Chihiro and Aria get it at the same time? Was it to make them aware of that all is still not fully settled with Rea's family and that he needs to stay on his toes if he truly wishes to protect her? From what I've heard, episode 13 seems to hint at there being more in store for us in the near future. I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know, but I wouldn't mind more of this show, even if it wasn't all that well-received as I hoped it would be. __________________

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romcom89 Member Join Date: Apr 2012	Which Chapter of the Manga ends the Anime

2013-01-09, 09:52	Link #860
~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 21	I think ep 13 and ep 14 are well-done... now let's hope there will be a lot of demand for second season since I'm interested with that Boyle Professor... glad that both Babu and Rea are aware about their body condition... I hope this series will have a happy ending although the chances are pretty slim __________________ even if you can't see me, even if you can't hear me, I'll be by your side (Kaname Madoka, 2011) anime list manga list