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Old 2012-07-06, 16:14   Link #81
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I don't see IM going anywhere. There's Miki and Iori, but I don't see them getting past Round 2 if not out in first round.
Negima is probably a good indicator as to what will happen to them.
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Old 2012-07-06, 19:49   Link #82
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I wouldn't expect much from the returning Saki characters. If you get into Saimoe via a cameo, you take a significant power hit (unless you're an Index character). Toki should do quite well, though.
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Old 2012-07-06, 20:50   Link #83
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I wouldn't expect much from the returning Saki characters. If you get into Saimoe via a cameo, you take a significant power hit (unless you're an Index character). Toki should do quite well, though.
It is Saki you're talking about here though...

The strongest would still be strong (Nodoka & Koromo). Secondary girls, though, would definitely be weaken as you said. Too bad the like of Komaki and Ikeda the 2nd Suehara (Not even eligible) doesn't appear enough...

New girl wise, it's Toki way up top, then Ryuuka & Kuro & maybe Subara Kirame. The rest will be 2nd round max...
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I wouldn't expect much from the returning Saki characters. If you get into Saimoe via a cameo, you take a significant power hit (unless you're an Index character). Toki should do quite well, though.
"Cameo" doesn't really capture the importance of some of the returning Saki characters in Achiga-hen, imo.

Nodoka's role in Achiga-hen is pretty important. Her young girl self is a very important character with loads of screen-time early on. And her current self shows up in a lot of the later episodes. Even if those appearances are only brief, they're in almost every episode - It goes beyond a simple cameo, imo. It shows Nodoka having a consistent presence in the show.


On the flip-side, most of the other returnees really are cameos, yeah. Koromo only shows up briefly in one episode, IIRC. So you could be right about them.

But Nodoka (and to a lesser extent, Saki and Tacos) does have a significant amount of total screen-time in Achiga-hen. So I'm skeptical of the idea of them taking a "cameo hit".
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Old 2012-07-07, 10:51   Link #85
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Live 1st Prelim Draw thread for those who are interested...

http://kohada.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/...us/1341674843/

(It's suppose to be going on already, but I don't see any results yet)

EDIT: I think it's running late...the draw is suppose to be 00:30-01:00AM JST (11:30-12:00 Eastern Time in US), but according to the thread, seemingly the draw is running late due to, well, the usual lack of people helping...
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Old 2012-07-07, 11:08   Link #86
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The PMMM and Nanoha will probably have some chance (the two movies coming out)
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Old 2012-07-07, 11:10   Link #87
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The PMMM and Nanoha will probably have some chance (the two movies coming out)
What you mean? They'll have to wait another year...

EDIT:
An update on draw...

0230 JST (1330 US Eastern Time) = Draw
0250 - 0530 JST (1350 US Eastern Time - 1630 US Eastern Time) = Results will be announced
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Wait they didn't qualify?
PMMM came out as the 2011 champ
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Old 2012-07-07, 11:55   Link #89
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Wait they didn't qualify?
PMMM came out as the 2011 champ
What do you think this is? ISML? (Actually don't apply there either...) Or UEFA Champions League? (I want to use World Cup but the "Champ qualify" rules no longer apply...)

No, neither qualify just b/c neither have anything b/t 2011/07/01 and 2012/06/30.

On the other hand, drawing just start 4 mins ago, Group 1-4 coming in soon.

EDIT: Was using the what I guess is a test...here comes the real thing (u1_004772.txt and u1_004773.txt are the two I was referring to...)

Group 1 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004774.txt
Group 2 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004775.txt
Group 3 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004776.txt
Group 4 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004777.txt

Group 5 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004778.txt (Toki v. Saki here)
Group 6 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004779.txt
Group 7 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004780.txt
Group 8 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004781.txt

Group 9 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004782.txt
Group 10 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004783.txt
Group 11 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004784.txt
Group 12 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004785.txt

Group 13 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004786.txt
Group 14 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004787.txt
Group 15 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004788.txt
Group 16 - http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004789.txt

With all of them...
http://mig380.chez-alice.fr/up0/file/u1_004790.txt
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Old 2012-07-07, 12:42   Link #90
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My quick look...(Note that I don't necessarily know girls from every single series, especially Horizon and Type-Moon girls, nor I list every single girls that I may know since I doubt some girls will go anywhere...). Another note? I do miss girls as I'm finding out just editing....

Group 1: Haruna (Zombie), Mahiru (Working), Hitagi & Shinobu (Nisemonogatari), Miu (Papakiki), Eru (Hyouka), Mei (Another), Shizu & Yuuki (Saki), Saber (Fate/Zero) Predict: Eru
Group 2: Tsukihi (Nisemonogatari), Yune (Ikoku-Meiru no Croisee), Elsie (Kaminomi OVA), Matsumi Yuu (There are few other minor ones...but don't care about them) (Saki), Fear (C3), Ika-chan (Ika-Musume), Himari (Penguindrum). Charlotte and Gertrud are also here for Strike Witches fan. Predict: Ika-Musume
Group 3: Yozora (Maria is in this group also) (Haganai), Iori (IM), Kokoro (Milky Holmes), Izumi (Another), Kuroyukihime (Accel World), Aria (Hidan no Aria), Nagi (Hayate), Tooru (A-Channel), Charlotte (IS), Hiro & Yuno (Hidamari) Honorable mention are Ayase (Guilty Crown), Konoka (Negima), Saki & Rinko (NatsuKise), Yumi (Saki), Airi (RKB), Chinatsu (Yuruyuri) Predict: Kuroyukihime
Group 4: Popura (Working), Oshiroi (Ben-To), Ami (Toradora), Teru (& Funa-Q) (Saki), Tsukasa (Amagami), Yukiko (P4), Sakura (Fate/Zero), and maybe Cecilia & Laura (IS). Still a weak group, though... Predict: Popura, unless Teru go insane...

Group 5: The Saki battle b/t Toki, Ikeda, and Saki. Then there's Kanade (Mayo Chiki), Miya (Amagami), Sana (Mashiro-Iro), Yoshika (Strike Witches), Karen (Nisemonogatari), Himeji (BakaTest), Maekawa (and Hoshimiya) (Denpa Onna), Ritsu (K-On), Rea (Sankarea), Inori (Guilty Crown), and maybe Chitose (Yuruyuri) Predict: Toki
Group 6: Meiro (Sankarea), Taiga (Toradora OVA), Mayaka (Hyouka), Shana (Shana), Kyouko (Kore wa Zombie OTD). There are tons of cameo Saki girls in this group also... Predict: Shana
Group 7: Yuno (Mirai Nikki), Eu (Kore wa Zombie OTD), Meme (Denpa Onna), Sora & Raika (Papakiki), Rena (Higurashi), Nako (Hanasaku Iroha), Mio & Erika (Strike Witches), Subaru (Mayo Chiki), Koromo (Saki), Minami (BakaTest), and maybe Ayumu (Hayate) Predict: Koromo
Group 8: Ako (and Wahaha Ganbara) (Saki), Nori (Hidamari), Toshino Kyouko (Yuruyuri), Marika (Moretsu Pirates), Miu (Mashiro-Iro), Madoka (Lagrange) <- Seems to be another weak group... Predict: Marika

Group 9: Yui (Yuruyuri), Nyaruko (Nyaruko-san), Nero (Milky Holmes), Koneko (HS DxD), Erio (Denpa Onna), Hinata (RKB), Kazumi (Shana), Yamada (Working), Irisviel (Fate/Zero), Miki (IM), Louise (ZnT F), Hisa (Saki), Nanasaki Ai (Amagami) and of course, the 1st round fodder every year in Haibara (Conan) Predict: Nyaruko
Group 10: If Toki v. Saki (v. Ikeda) is not enough, this group has Captain (Mihoko), Kuro, and Touka, along with Zera. Other includes Maon (Tamayura), Minori (Toradora OVA), P-01s (Horizon), Minko (Hanasaku), Shirayuki (Hidan no Aria), Run (A-Channel), and Kuuko (and prehaps Shata-kun XD) (Nyaruko-san) Predict: Kuro
Goup 11: K-On Battle for the most part b/t Yui, Azu-nyan, and Mugi. Ohter notables are Ryuuka (Saki), Asuha (Rotte no Omocha), Sanya (Strike Witches), Airi (Mashiro-iro), and Dalian (Dantalian no Shoka) Predict: Azu-nyan (It could also be Ryuuka...)
Group 12: Main battle is probably Nodoka (Saki) v. Niku (Haganai). Other notables are Sen & Ume (Ben-To), Ayano (and maybe Hinamori) (Yuruyuri), Suruga (Nisemonogatari), Medaka (Medaka's Box), Ryuushi (Denpa Onna), Morishima (Amagami), Alice (Kamimemo), Zessica (Aquarion EVOL...just b/c of HanaKana XD) Predict: Niku

Group 13: Morita (Morita-san), Asia (HS DxD), Tsubasa & Nadeko (Nisemonogatari), Momo & Subara Kirame (Saki), Tsumiki (Acchi Kocchi), Hibiki (Symphogear), Kurisu (Steins;Gate), and maybe Mai (Nichijou) Predict: Nadeko
Group 14: Rotte (Rotte no Omocha), Mio (K-On), Ohana (Hanasaku), Hina (Hayate), and maybe Izumi (Saki) and Masazumi (Horizon) Predict: Mio
Group 15: Shirakiin (Inu x Boku SS) and Kobato (Haganai) stands out. Other includes Shoko (BakaTest), Hirano (Milky Holmes), Potte & Kaoru (Tamayura), Mato (BRS), Ui (K-On), Nanako (P4), and probably the weakest Achiga girl in Arata (Saki). Predict: Shirakiin
Group 16: Hina (Papakiki), Tomoka (RKB), Ayame (Ben-To), Hakase (Nichijou), Mayoi (Nisemonogatari), Mayuri (Steins;Gate), Kuroneko Chiaki (Moretsu Pirates), Karuta (Inu x Boku SS). And of course, with her existence being negative, I have to save her for last, Akarin (Yuruyuri) Predict: Karuta (Can't pick b/t Karuta and Chiaki and even Akarin)
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Old 2012-07-07, 13:11   Link #91
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Once again AST is getting ready to kick-off (within this week, IIRC). Didn't really realize that 1 year passed sooner than I though...

Hopes that this year's tournament will be more interesting than last year's, or even become the greatest ever tournament in Saimoe history.
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I wonder if your calculation might be off when it comes to Type-Moon. There is another source this time around aside from Fate/Zero that I saw a lot of in the different groups....Carnival Phantasm. Pretty much every Fate/Stay Night and Melty Blood character was in there.
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Old 2012-07-07, 15:34   Link #93
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Let me see what I can make of these groups...

Spoiler for Horribad Predictions:
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Group 4: AM-I-POPLAR-YET[Working] Wow...according to ion this is a really weak group, who am I to doubt him?
Well, I did miss Teru (Saki) and Yukiko (P4), and maybe Tsukasa (Amagami). Even then, it's still a relatively weak group compare to others...

Of course, unless people start voting for Funa-Q...

P.S. I'm no expert in prediction. And personally I don't know exactly how popular some mid-tier animes are...
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Oh well other chara in group 4 is Aizawa Sakuya (Hayate) and Cecillia Alcott (Infinite Stratos)... it weak group anyway...

Gonna check group 8 too...
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Gonna check group 8 too...
I checked again...the only two I can maybe add are Wahaha Ganbara (Saki) and Suminoe Riko (KissxSis)...and even someone like Arakawa Kei (The ace of Sangamaki HS that lose to Senriyama in Kita-Osaka Tournament and the one that helped with Achiga's training before the Shirotodai murder...yeah, like anyone remember who she is as good as she's in mahjong), unless you consider the Zetsubou Sensei girls (Chiri and Futsu-san Nami) "strong"...
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Group 8 Amaha Miu (Mashiiro Symphony) *lulz put Airi and Sana but not anime heroine* Kijima Saki (Hayate) Yukine Chris (Symphogear) Tiffania Westwood (Zero no Tsukaima) Kyouno Madoka (Rinne no Langrange)
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Group 8 Amaha Miu (Mashiiro Symphony) *lulz put Airi and Sana but not anime heroine* Kijima Saki (Hayate) Yukine Chris (Symphogear) Tiffania Westwood (Zero no Tsukaima) Kyouno Madoka (Rinne no Langrange)
And I somehow miss Miu after looking over the list 3 times...(But then, I miss both Kuroneko Chiaki and Karuta up until the 3rd run through Group 16...and they're actually pretty high on my list...)

Madoka I miss b/c I didn't watch Lagrange (So don't know who's who...same can be apply to Medaka's Box and Tsuritama, probably some strength but I don't know who's who...). I don't think Tiffania is strong at all (Siesta is in the group also, and I didn't add her either. Zero no Tsukaima is an one-girl anime and even Louise tend to only win as an assassin...but then, Kugyu fanbase can never be counted out, just look at Nagi and how she finished 2nd twice by being the 3rd (at best) most popular girl in her own series...)
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Oh well i am basically check other anime that casual western don't care but really famous in japan Rinne no Langrange, Symphogear, Natsuiro Kiseki, AKB48, Aquarion Evol and Sengoku Collection...
For Symphogear - I only know Hibiki, which doesn't help...
Natsuiro = I'm just not sure how popular it is. The girls are not high in Animeone poll (as accurate as THAT is) and the girl are just not that moe...
AKB0048 = No clue...won't even bother with it
Evol = Zessica is the only one that I know for sure is popular (Due to HanaKana).
Sengoku Collection = Round 2 max anyway, so I never care much about them...
Lagrange = Just didn't watch it, that's all...
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