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Lantern · 2012-07-17, 11:49

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Originally Posted by noobita

Thank you, everyone for the information. There is another thing I want to know. What and how Kirito gave her a reason to live? Love or...?

I'm not good with quoting word by word, but I'll summarize it.

1 - The interaction at the bread scene and then the bath scene rekindles Asuna's feeling of being alive. This contributes to point 3.
2 - Her awe at Kirito's strength in battle, inspiring her to become stronger to match a warrior like him, which contributes to point 3.
3 - Clearing the first boss battle. Makes her realize that there is still hope to survive the game.
4 - Finally, Kirito's encouragement of her skill and that she should join a guild.

Random Wanderer · 2012-07-17, 17:00

I have just finished reading the side story "Caliber." It seems to fit chronologically after volume 6 and before volume 7, so I figured I'd read it before I read 7 to try to keep things in order. At the end of the chapter, Kirito thinks to himself something that I believe may embody the primary message of this entire series.

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If I learnt anything about the human's capability through the experience from the three worlds: SAO, ALO, GGO, it would be just one, «Nothing can be shouldered alone».

It is only because they accepted that truth and worked together that any of the people in SAO ever survived to escape the game. It is because she was taught that lesson that Asuna was able to move past her suicidal plunges into the first-level dungeon and moved on to become the amazing warrior we know her as. It was because of the help of others that Kirito was able to move past his self-destructive desires after letting his guild be wiped out. It was through relying on Kirito that Lizbeth and Silica survived through what happened to them. Only Kirito and Sinon's efforts together were able to save her life, and put an end to the serial killings of GGO players.

No matter how powerful or how badass the character, none of them could overcome their trials alone. Asuna's captivity in ALO wasn't badass decay, but rather a reaffirmation of this message. It was only through the combination of her efforts with Kirito's, Yui's, Lyfa's, Recon's, those of the entire armies of the Sylphs and Cait Sith, and the intervention of Heathcliff's uploaded consciousness that Asuna was freed. All those trials couldn't have been, and shouldn't have been shouldered alone. That was what these stories meant for us to see: that whatever they faced could only be overcome by working together.

I can't say this well, but I think it is important that everyone understands that this is what the author has been trying to tell us. It is why Asuna was put in a situation that she couldn't escape from, it is why Kirito met up with his sister in ALO, it is why everything in these stories has happened. And it is why we shouldn't say that any of these stories ruins someone as a character. None of the characters were ever meant to stand alone, and all of the stories reflect that.

...Sorry. I was thinking about that while the arguments were ongoing, but didn't want to stir things up any more, but once I read that line in Caliber I felt I had to say something.

Rayrah · 2012-07-17, 17:13

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I can't say this well, but I think it is important that everyone understands that this is what the author has been trying to tell us. It is why Asuna was put in a situation that she couldn't escape from, it is why Kirito met up with his sister in ALO, it is why everything in these stories has happened. And it is why we shouldn't say that any of these stories ruins someone as a character. None of the characters were ever meant to stand alone, and all of the stories reflect that.

Very well said (even though you may disagree). I haven't read Caliber, but after reading your post, I feel that I must.

That's a very interesting way of looking at this series; and it's also one that I wholeheartedly agree with.

Swordstriker21 · 2012-07-17, 17:51

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Very well said (even though you may disagree). I haven't read Caliber, but after reading your post, I feel that I must.

That's a very interesting way of looking at this series; and it's also one that I wholeheartedly agree with.

You might also be made to like and respect Klein more after reading it for "non-standard" reasons

kyp275 · 2012-07-17, 17:54

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Originally Posted by Swordstriker21

You might also be made to like and respect Klein more after reading it for "non-standard" reasons

Klein's Awesome Bro-ness knows no bounds

Xellos-_^ · 2012-07-17, 17:55

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You might also be made to like and respect Klein more after reading it for "non-standard" reasons

i like how Kirito sexually harass Sinon by pulling her tail.

novalysis · 2012-07-17, 18:22

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Klein's Awesome Bro-ness knows no bounds

Klein is actually an amazing man by his own rights. Well, shame Kirito never tagged along with him - Klein+ Kirito's seemingly eerie chick magnet ability seems like a broken combo.

Random Wanderer · 2012-07-17, 18:41

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i like how Kirito sexually harass Sinon by pulling her tail.

I like her revenge later on.

Spoiler for near the end of the story:

...said right in front of the rest of the harem. Made all the more amusing as she's the one girl who hasn't (blatantly, at least) actually fallen for him.

Fallen3dge · 2012-07-17, 19:00

Sinon actually likes him. But that scene was epic.
Caliber also shows off Klein's "manliness"

Lantern · 2012-07-17, 19:12

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I like her revenge later on.

Spoiler for near the end of the story:

...said right in front of the rest of the harem. Made all the more amusing as she's the one girl who hasn't (blatantly, at least) actually fallen for him.

Don't forget that lovely glowing smile of hers either

Kirito~ Oh you~

Awrya · 2012-07-18, 02:19

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Originally Posted by Fallen3dge

Sinon actually likes him. But that scene was epic.
Caliber also shows off Klein's "manliness"

Speaking about Excaliber and manliness, I wish we would get the thought count whether...

Spoiler for Excaliber:

Just wanted to get this clarified, is it Lizbeth or Lisbeth? I remember Kirito using Liz, while other characters&translators use Lis.

Wild Goose · 2012-07-18, 02:45

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Well, if you guys are still waiting for Vol 10, no translations out from me for at least a week. Don't worry, I feed off the tears of anguish of you guys.

!!! You're here! Well,it's alright - they say good things come to those who wait, and these more delicious ME3 MP to distract me.

I don't suppose you're looking for a beta or editor?

noobita · 2012-07-18, 05:50

Is there any chapter about Kirito and Asuna being lovey-dovey and Asuna with her family scene? Really want to know what her parents would thought about her current character.

Swordstriker21 · 2012-07-18, 06:09

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Originally Posted by noobita

Is there any chapter about Kirito and Asuna being lovey-dovey and Asuna with her family scene? Really want to know what her parents would thought about her current character.

For the family thing read volume 7 Mothers Rosario. Though it might not be what you expect...

Deltaray · 2012-07-18, 08:48

Well Kirito does have tendency to harass cats I suppose

Spoiler for Caliber around middle:

noobita · 2012-07-18, 08:52

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For the family thing read volume 7 Mothers Rosario. Though it might not be what you expect...

Well, Asuna's mother reaction is pretty much expected from me. So I guess Kirito will have a hard time to seeing Asuna in the future. There is absolutely no way he can marry Asuna unless both of them elope.

Swordstriker21 · 2012-07-18, 08:57

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Well, Asuna's mother reaction is pretty much expected from me. So I guess Kirito will have a hard time to seeing Asuna in the future. There is absolutely no way he can marry Asuna unless both of them elope.

Well either way the "boss-fight" will be beyond epic. The father-boss has already been weakened but the mother-boss's ultimate skill "Mother's Death Glare" has a large of chance of OHKOing a certain black-loving male protagonist. I wonder if the defensive skills "Strong Look of Determination" and "Empowered Emotional Speech about Life and Love" will be enough to save his hide?

Awrya · 2012-07-18, 10:03

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Well either way the "boss-fight" will be beyond epic. The father-boss has already been weakened but the mother-boss's ultimate skill "Mother's Death Glare" has a large of chance of OHKOing a certain black-loving male protagonist. I wonder if the defensive skills "Strong Look of Determination" and "Empowered Emotional Speech about Life and Love" will be enough to save his hide?

If those fail, he still has his 'Extended Weight Limit' skill to carry Asuna, 'Sprint' for running away and even a mastered 'Hiding'. With 'Battle Healing' he should recover from any damage taken

Random Wanderer · 2012-07-18, 10:27

Anyone foolish enough to try to deny Asuna the right to be with the person she loves and the friends she has made will come to regret that decision. You will have to physically lock her up to keep her away from them, and that didn't turn out well for the last person who tried it.

noobita · 2012-07-18, 10:34

I think Kirito will just use " Seeding the seed" technique and forces Asuna's mother to accept their marriage.

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noobita Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006	Is there any chapter about Kirito and Asuna being lovey-dovey and Asuna with her family scene? Really want to know what her parents would thought about her current character. __________________

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Deltaray Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Age: 20	Well Kirito does have tendency to harass cats I suppose Spoiler for Caliber around middle: "There was a person who climbed the pillar connecting to the next layer in the old Aincrad and fell down, I'm sure that person would experiment falling from here in the future too." "......Falling from this height, aren't cats more suitable for that?" The two felines immediately made a serious look and shook their heads repeatedly.

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noobita Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006	I think Kirito will just use " Seeding the seed" technique and forces Asuna's mother to accept their marriage. __________________

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Fallen3dge Darkest Light Join Date: Feb 2012	Sinon actually likes him. But that scene was epic. Caliber also shows off Klein's "manliness"

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Random Wanderer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Anyone foolish enough to try to deny Asuna the right to be with the person she loves and the friends she has made will come to regret that decision. You will have to physically lock her up to keep her away from them, and that didn't turn out well for the last person who tried it.