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Old 2012-07-20, 19:28   Link #1841
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Am I the only one thinking that the Ao universe is same one as the movie? It would have to be otherwise a paradox would happen. The scub coral wouldnt disappear from the future to the past, besides, it was explained in the first series that it would find another universe.
That's impossible I think. The movie takes place in 2054 A.D., and the world is nothing like the one in E7AO now. There is also no such thing as Scub Corals or Coralians in the movie world, which wouldn't make sense given what's happening in E7AO's world. No IFOs or flying cars either.

The movie world will likely be referenced and explained along the way, considering how they're already hinting at some connection in the mecha designs, but it definitely isn't the same world.
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Old 2012-07-20, 19:45   Link #1842
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It had the unfortunate fate of being in a terrible movie.
I just hate its design as well as the whole concept, honestly. At least Spec 3 LOOKED like the Nirvash. The archetype consumed the mechanical components and it kept the same size and shape roughly. Simple.

Spec V for some reason has a ridiculous shape as well as funnels and a STAFF. Why would it need a STAFF?! I swear Kawamori cries himself to sleep every night after BONES forces him to redraw that monstrosity. (Then he probably draws himself the YF-29 just to clear that hideous design from his mind)
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Old 2012-07-20, 19:57   Link #1843
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Spec V for some reason has a ridiculous shape as well as funnels and a STAFF. Why would it need a STAFF?! I swear Kawamori cries himself to sleep every night after BONES forces him to redraw that monstrosity. (Then he probably draws himself the YF-29 just to clear that hideous design from his mind)
Kawamori did not design the Spec V. Both the Spec 3 and the Spec V are Shigeto Koyama's work.
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Old 2012-07-20, 20:10   Link #1844
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Kawamori did not design the Spec V. Both the Spec 3 and the Spec V are Shigeto Koyama's work.
Even better! Now I know that Kawamori's hands are clean! My conscience has been spared! Spec2 was always the best to me anyway...

(Kawamori remains my favorite mechanical designer of all time. Armored Core, Macross, Eureka Seven, you name it)
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Old 2012-07-20, 21:23   Link #1845
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Speaking of Nirvashes, I hope TheEND does stuff soon.
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Old 2012-07-20, 22:56   Link #1846
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Theory: Naru the first hybrid, than Eureka?

Eureka made 2 visits to that world. First time was with Elena (pregnant), meeting with Ao and the 2nd time was giving birth to Ao and leaving him there. That's why she recall the 2 old guys in the flashback (episode 13).

Was surprise Ao made the connection that he has an older sister, instead of a younger, so quickly.
That all seems the most likely.

Is it also implied that Eureka dies after the second visit? Or should we take all these ghost appearances as something else entirely?
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Old 2012-07-21, 03:37   Link #1847
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Wait... If Elena is his sister than what's with the pink hair and different skin and eye colors?
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Old 2012-07-21, 03:47   Link #1848
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That all seems the most likely.

Is it also implied that Eureka dies after the second visit? Or should we take all these ghost appearances as something else entirely?
She could be talking from the future... I think her "ghost" appearance is meant to be more like an astral projection.

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Wait... If Elena is his sister than what's with the pink hair and different skin and eye colors?
Elena may well have a habit of changing her looks along with her personality.
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Old 2012-07-21, 05:26   Link #1849
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So Naru is on Truth's side now? This could get messy. I somewhat agree that Naru would be the reverse version of Eureka.

Liked the op. I wonder if man behind Eureka is Renton. If so, he really changed a lot.
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Old 2012-07-21, 05:30   Link #1850
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Doesn't explain her skin color which appears all natural for her and isn't just a spray on tan or the such.

The man behind Eureka most likely is Renten. Hopefully they gave him a badass Goatee.
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Old 2012-07-21, 10:00   Link #1851
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Doesn't explain her skin color which appears all natural for her and isn't just a spray on tan or the such.

The man behind Eureka most likely is Renten. Hopefully they gave him a badass Goatee.
Maybe Renton has a relative that is darker skinned and it just runs in the family. My sister is much darker skinned the me or our parents so its certainly possible.
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Old 2012-07-21, 10:12   Link #1852
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Or Elena like Eureka undergo physiological changes. Remember that time Eureka was green.

We have evidence of this with Ao with the hair turning green. Only in Elena's case she been at this stage of metamorphosis since she was a little girl.
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Old 2012-07-21, 10:15   Link #1853
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Pregnant Eureka did not mention any war from her timeline but during the scene where Ao mom's is giving birth, she says Renton is fighting for her and their child. Seems the series is getting more and more terminator-like whereby the future is very dangerous while the past is a safe heaven.

No wonder Ao's mom look more groomy than the pregnant Eureka, cos the timeline/universe she came from is seriously f$%^ed and finds the past a more habitable place. Must be hard for Ao's mom to not only take care of her child in Renton's absence, but also fearing for her husband's life and know she cannot be there to aid him in any possible way.

Has anyone here watched the anime "Noein"? It involves multiple universe concept and gives you a more clear perspective on the possibilities of having different versions of yourself and the world.

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Old 2012-07-21, 10:27   Link #1854
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Time travel doesn't apply to the E7 world as it is separate universe.

Naru thinks she understands but she doesn't. What she saw was E7 world's past where the Scub came from space.

The Scub arriving to her world comes from that universe.

Plus we have to take account Truth's The World is Wrong which suggest this is an artificial world. As evidence by the Cavern Club in Manchester not Liverpoool.
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Old 2012-07-21, 13:15   Link #1855
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It's still technically time travel if the events are not contiguous. As we've seen, Eureka isn't going through the timeline in the right order, not to mention the busted Nirvash showing up in the light pillar.

On a completely different note:

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I wonder what this thing is supposed to be.
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Old 2012-07-21, 14:44   Link #1856
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Time travel doesn't apply to the E7 world as it is separate universe.

Naru thinks she understands but she doesn't. What she saw was E7 world's past where the Scub came from space.

The Scub arriving to her world comes from that universe.

Plus we have to take account Truth's The World is Wrong which suggest this is an artificial world. As evidence by the Cavern Club in Manchester not Liverpoool.
Very valid points. I have thought of the Ao universe being a separate universe and not E7's past. I only vaguely remember the movie and by what people here are saying it seems like the Ao universe cannot possibly be the movies' past. So Now im thinking something along the lines of this possibility.
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Old 2012-07-21, 23:09   Link #1857
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Old 2012-07-21, 23:23   Link #1858
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Nice catch! Elena, you dirty dirty girl!
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Old 2012-07-21, 23:38   Link #1859
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That's hilarious.
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Old 2012-07-22, 02:25   Link #1860
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I'm disturbed she has that and is laying on the Nirvash in that way if they are siblings.
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