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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 03
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... 49 22.17%
9 out of 10: Excellent... 39 17.65%
8 out of 10: Very Good... 52 23.53%
7 out of 10: Good... 46 20.81%
6 out of 10: Average... 18 8.14%
5 out of 10: Below Average... 6 2.71%
4 out of 10: Poor... 6 2.71%
3 out of 10: Bad... 0 0%
2 out of 10: Very Bad... 0 0%
1 out of 10: Torturous... 5 2.26%
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Old 2012-07-21, 13:47   Link #41
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Wow, so many brutal reviews Q_Q
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Old 2012-07-21, 13:49   Link #42
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My opinion is that, if you don't want to spend time on it, just skip it altogether. Volumn 1 novel structure was fine as it is. Doing SAO in chronical order is also questionable in the first place, with all these time skip we will face.
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Old 2012-07-21, 13:50   Link #43
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@Lantern: Japan loves making any form of Lances to suffer, eh?

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Fate/zero did cut something but it didn't felt this rushed even an anime viewer Klashikari felt that its rushed.
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but for me this small or side story is what make the main story great because it should flesh out and introduce the characters so you can sympathize or understand them.
Several times I don't care since the one who will get over it are the main characters. Also some of theses SS contradicts the Vol.1 in various passages that can confuse one.

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Really, the whole "but they are just side stories!" doesn't cut it at all. Sure, if the light novel could manage to throw people to high floors right after the whole incident period, that's fine for the format. But not using these side stories would be a quite weird decision from an anime perspective, which has no luxury in info dump considering the 20 min limit, so using the side stories as a way to give information and cohesion in the background of the story is obviously logical.

But that is exactly not a reason to rush with such pace, side stories or not.
Thats why I didn't care about them that much. Some times I feel them like novel fillers.
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Old 2012-07-21, 13:50   Link #44
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well they can add narration or info right? like what they did with episode 1 ending. That by December 2000+ already died and first floor isn't cleared yet.

They don't even say time skip or I don't even see a hint that they did a time skip. The first I saw is the cups of wine and Kirito sitting in the side table there are plenty of ways to make the transition of things not that bad.
Actually they listed the dates during several scenes throughout the episode...
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Old 2012-07-21, 13:55   Link #45
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the date at the beginning is 2023 - 4 -8

Its been shown below from the first scene in a structure that looks like a tavern. Then the Kampai and the face of Kirito.

I also felt the same thing based on Kirito's expression.

But aside that scene. The other scene that should be emotional and should have meaning just felt rushed.
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Old 2012-07-21, 14:00   Link #46
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Well I can't understand Japanese, so ill have to wait for subs to make a final assessment, but using what I know of the LN to "fill in" the dialogue this chapter doesn't seem that rushed to me. If anything, they expanded it a little bit in some parts.
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Old 2012-07-21, 14:03   Link #47
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Wow, so many brutal reviews Q_Q
We came, we saw, we conquered.

That's how fandoms think IIRC.

Still it's mostly based on the expressions of the characters...you could just simply bring up the LN translations and pause scene by scene and read to feel the underlying internal monologue. xD
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Old 2012-07-21, 14:09   Link #48
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We came, we saw, we conquered.

That's how fandoms think IIRC.
I'd say it's more like We came, We saw, WeOMGWTFBBQIT'SNOTLIKEINTHENOVELS!

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Old 2012-07-21, 14:14   Link #49
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Finally managed to watch the episode. And I can't really understand those complaining. Yeah, they could've give us more development and story, but I woudn't call it being a rush. It was a transitional story between the prologue and the main story and it felt like one.

oh, and btw, I want Kirito and Asuna amw with "Show me the light" song in it now. Just for a balance.
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Old 2012-07-21, 14:20   Link #50
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Subs aren't even out yet we have 3 pages already?

From what I read this episode cut out a lot of stuff from the side story, and to top it off it was poorly adapted and/or rushed? As someone said, maybe there was just too much hype about SAO, if it continues like that maybe it'll turn into the biggest flop of this summer. But then we have another 20+ episodes, it may get better.

*waiting for subs*
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Old 2012-07-21, 14:26   Link #51
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Wow, so many brutal reviews Q_Q
Most of the comments right now are LN readers, and we aren't the best judges of how impactful it is. The real test will be when the anime-only viewers show up -- if they aren't in tears, the episode failed to capture the source material.

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Well I can't understand Japanese, so ill have to wait for subs to make a final assessment, but using what I know of the LN to "fill in" the dialogue this chapter doesn't seem that rushed to me. If anything, they expanded it a little bit in some parts.
Apart from a couple scenes from the beginning of the story, I don't think anything was left out, but what was included would've benefited from a little room to breathe.

Well, there was one change from the story that really disappointed me:

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Old 2012-07-21, 14:26   Link #52
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I'd say it's more like We came, We saw, WeOMGWTFBBQIT'SNOTLIKEINTHENOVELS!

its certainly seems this way.

PS: LOL, whats that BBQ?
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Old 2012-07-21, 14:29   Link #53
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its certainly seems this way.

PS: LOL, whats that BBQ?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...term=omgwtfbbq

a rather commonly used term in EVE Online :P
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Old 2012-07-21, 14:33   Link #54
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We came, we saw, we conquered.

That's how fandoms think IIRC.

Still it's mostly based on the expressions of the characters...you could just simply bring up the LN translations and pause scene by scene and read to feel the underlying internal monologue. xD
LOL, so true .
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Old 2012-07-21, 14:43   Link #55
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btw, what do you guys think of Sachi's VA? for some reason she didn't sound quite right to me :/
I'll admit that I usually don't pay much attention to VAs, unless they're mediocre or outright terrible. Nonetheless, I thought her VA was good.

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I'd say it's more like We came, We saw, WeOMGWTFBBQIT'SNOTLIKEINTHENOVELS!

Exactly.

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From what I read this episode cut out a lot of stuff from the side story, and to top it off it was poorly adapted and/or rushed?
It did, but that was expected. Anyone who's expecting material not to get cut is simply fooling themselves, and will be disappointed.

In my eyes, no, it wasn't. But that change from person to person.
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Old 2012-07-21, 14:45   Link #56
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It did it fairly well, didn't expect much more, felt kinda natural for me, they didn't really skip that much, only 3 scenes from Side story if I remember right, and they even added one new (Argo, and speaking of her, Argos News was pretty brilliant tbh.)

But yeah, around 9 material in my books.
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Old 2012-07-21, 15:44   Link #57
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The real test will be when the anime-only viewers show up -- if they aren't in tears, the episode failed to capture the source material.
Well, to be fair, I wasn't in tears after reading the story. Wasn't that much affected at all really aside from feeling bad for Kirito and whatnot.

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So, I didn't figure this would make me cry at all. Can't really recall a book that managed to do that. Maybe I've read too much and I just sort of expect this sort of thing now. Or I'm an unfeeling monster
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So, I didn't figure this would make me cry at all. Can't really recall a book that managed to do that. Maybe I've read too much and I just sort of expect this sort of thing now. Or I'm an unfeeling monster
I suppose it depends on your definition of 'in tears'; for me, it's crying or tearing up. I almost never cry, but I do tear up from time to time.
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Old 2012-07-21, 15:55   Link #59
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I remember in the end of episode 02. He should still be on floor 2 but what floor are they now? and he is already level 40!!! when they say they are level 20 and he also said he is 20 (or so I think, I think he said ni ju? which is 20 right?)
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Old 2012-07-21, 16:38   Link #60
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I defended the last two episodes, but this one was a little bit less so for me. Rushed for sure.

Kanpai out of nowhere for the start was definitely WTFBBQ.

Kirito really doesn't seem to show much attachment to any of the guild members. He shows slightly more for Sachi, but not that much more.

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btw, what do you guys think of Sachi's VA? for some reason she didn't sound quite right to me :/
She read as a much more meek head voice in my imagination. Not that the VA didn't sound that way, but something felt off for sure.

Speaking of unfitting VA's though, the information dealer was a much worse offender for this episode. I was hoping for a sly rat voice rather than a squeaky rat voice.

My favorite part of the episode was by far watching the first guy get tenderized by the picks. Lots of twitching lol....

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