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Old 2012-07-24, 17:57   Link #1
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Total Eclipse - Character Discussion - Yui Takamura

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Old 2012-07-25, 04:04   Link #2
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So, Yui is a broken bird that was toughened by the world.
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What should be done/said to get her to soften up from her cold super serious demeanor?

Or is Yui forever unfix-able and Yuuya will never grow to understand her?
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Old 2012-07-25, 06:03   Link #3
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Since it's specific to a character and may come up many times, I thought I'd post here. This is referring to this post:
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Note that the word she uses for "you" is not the usual "omae/anta/anata", but "kisama", which is not only considered rude, it's used to show contempt for the person you're addressing.
Normally, it would be rare in the extreme for girls to use "kisama" (generally seen by high strung "ojou-sama" types) but my impression is that Yui's speaking style is par for the course in Japanese military. I dunno how it is in Muv-luv universe but AFAIK in WW2 Japanese military this would definitely be what you'd see. We dont see Yui talking to any other 'underlings' yet but my guess would be she'd used 'kisama' too.

For reference: the red-coat squad leader for eps 1-2 uses 'kisama' when addressing the girls.
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Old 2012-07-25, 06:18   Link #4
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Yui, a girl molded for a war that only men should be trained for..
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Old 2012-07-25, 06:23   Link #5
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Eh, that's changing. I'm sure in Muv-Luv universe war is supposed to be for men but in our day and age it isn't strange for women to be brought into war.
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Old 2012-07-25, 06:29   Link #6
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Eh, that's changing. I'm sure in Muv-Luv universe war is supposed to be for men but in our day and age it isn't strange for women to be brought into war.
But a " All women squad" is quite rare... Many are assigned in HQ or military bases... that's what I think... its rare to see them in the front line.
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Old 2012-07-25, 08:13   Link #7
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There's a really long tl;dr article by a retired US Army officer on the subject of women in combat, at which he notes that there are certain drawbacks to having women in the combat arms, particularly the infantry (leg and mechanised) and artillery, simply due to physical constraints (women are physically weaker than men, fact) and the fact that most women don't choose the combat arms in the first place. That said, if the Army was serious about having women in the combat arms it could do so - not painlessly, but it would be quite possible.

At the same time, you do see more women as pilots, sailors, what have you, in skills that rely to a certain degree more on brainpower and kinesthetic sense, so I wouldn't say that having elements and flights composed of girls is too far out.

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Since it's specific to a character and may come up many times, I thought I'd post here. This is referring to this post:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1485

Normally, it would be rare in the extreme for girls to use "kisama" (generally seen by high strung "ojou-sama" types) but my impression is that Yui's speaking style is par for the course in Japanese military. I dunno how it is in Muv-luv universe but AFAIK in WW2 Japanese military this would definitely be what you'd see. We dont see Yui talking to any other 'underlings' yet but my guess would be she'd used 'kisama' too.

For reference: the red-coat squad leader for eps 1-2 uses 'kisama' when addressing the girls.
That might be their cultural mores, but it's still rude, y'know. And she's still a bitch towards Yuuya, while Yuuya is being an ass towards her.
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Old 2012-07-25, 08:20   Link #8
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Eh, that's normal. My Superior Officer was a "bitch" to me when it came to doing what was expected of me or when I made mistakes. Look at it this way, Yui being a bitch with Yuuya is pushing him to try and prove her wrong since being nice to him isn't showing any results considering that Yuuya completely disregards her friendly advice on how to pilot a Japanese TSF with his overly hostile attitude. Or that Yuuya refuses to tell her what the issue he has with her thus she has no way of trying to fix it because she doesn't know why he hates her just that he does and it will effect the team if it isn't fixed.
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Eh, that's normal. My Superior Officer was a "bitch" to me when it came to doing what was expected of me or when I made mistakes. Look at it this way, Yui being a bitch with Yuuya is pushing him to try and prove her wrong since being nice to him isn't showing any results considering that Yuuya completely disregards her friendly advice on how to pilot a Japanese TSF with his overly hostile attitude. Or that Yuuya refuses to tell her what the issue he has with her thus she has no way of trying to fix it because she doesn't know why he hates her just that he does and it will effect the team if it isn't fixed.
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In short... this two needs to open up... and discuss the issues alone, together... in a room... then hell brakes lose!!! Yuuya.. Yui.. dai suki...

Seriously, they need to pen up!!!
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Old 2012-07-25, 08:31   Link #10
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Well, I'd like to see someone dispute the supposition that Yui and Yuuya's antagonism would end in "Hot, Angry Sex".
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Well, I'd like to see someone dispute the supposition that Yui and Yuuya's antagonism would end in "Hot, Angry Sex".
yeah, the passion....
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Old 2012-07-25, 08:34   Link #12
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Pretty sure they're saving that for later, it's too early to let her drop her Tsun and start being Dere.
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Pretty sure they're saving that for later, it's too early to let her drop her Tsun and start being Dere.
And that's what I'm really excited to see...
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Old 2012-07-25, 08:55   Link #14
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Eh, that's normal. My Superior Officer was a "bitch" to me when it came to doing what was expected of me or when I made mistakes. Look at it this way, Yui being a bitch with Yuuya is pushing him to try and prove her wrong since being nice to him isn't showing any results considering that Yuuya completely disregards her friendly advice on how to pilot a Japanese TSF with his overly hostile attitude. Or that Yuuya refuses to tell her what the issue he has with her thus she has no way of trying to fix it because she doesn't know why he hates her just that he does and it will effect the team if it isn't fixed.
*shrug* You have a point there, but the real problem with these two is that they are correct on certain things, they are wrong on certain things, and their actions aren't helping things any.

Really, where the hell is Ibrahim and why isn't he sitting down and counseling the two of them, I don't know.

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Well, I'd like to see someone dispute the supposition that Yui and Yuuya's antagonism would end in "Hot, Angry Sex".
Why not?

That said, I have heard inklings that this may not actually happen, so we'll wait and see. That said, this is a 13-ep series, IIRC, and we're already a third of the way through...

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Pretty sure they're saving that for later, it's too early to let her drop her Tsun and start being Dere.
They'll probably get shot down together, or go through a harrowing shared near death experience that will then result in "I'm Happy To Be Alive Sex" before realising that this mutual antagonism is stupid, and lock themselves in a room.
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Well, I'd like to see someone dispute the supposition that Yui and Yuuya's antagonism would end in "Hot, Angry Sex".
Oh, hell yes.

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That said, this is a 13-ep series, IIRC, and we're already a third of the way through...
I believe the Blu-rays confirmed that this will be 2-cour.
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That said, I have heard inklings that this may not actually happen, so we'll wait and see. That said, this is a 13-ep series, IIRC, and we're already a third of the way through...
2-cour series according to cdjapan (showing 9 volumes).
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=AVXA-49887
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@novalysis: Ever since they showed Yui and Yuuya in episode 3 at the end I have been thinking of nothing but them ending up in a hot angry sex situation
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Oh, hell yes.
Is that "hell yes, bring on the hot angry sex" or "Hell yes, dispute and ensure this does not happen"?

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I believe the Blu-rays confirmed that this will be 2-cour.
Ah, thanks. If that's the case, then we have time... so this will run until next January. Okay, so for this year my anime watchlist has been pretty full, compared to past years. Jormungand, Upotte, Space Brothers, Mouretsu Pirates, now SAO and TE... well, I won't be too bored.

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2-cour series according to cdjapan (showing 9 volumes).
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=AVXA-49887
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@novalysis: Ever since they showed Yui and Yuuya in episode 3 at the end I have been thinking of nothing but them ending up in a hot angry sex situation
They're a more belligerent Maverick and Charlie.
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Is that "hell yes, bring on the hot angry sex" or "Hell yes, dispute and ensure this does not happen"?
The former.
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Since it's specific to a character and may come up many times, I thought I'd post here. This is referring to this post:
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Normally, it would be rare in the extreme for girls to use "kisama" (generally seen by high strung "ojou-sama" types) but my impression is that Yui's speaking style is par for the course in Japanese military. I dunno how it is in Muv-luv universe but AFAIK in WW2 Japanese military this would definitely be what you'd see. We dont see Yui talking to any other 'underlings' yet but my guess would be she'd used 'kisama' too.

For reference: the red-coat squad leader for eps 1-2 uses 'kisama' when addressing the girls.
interesting..
well no ofense

normaly yes that's a little harash...BUT we know this anime using militery world for setting
and in my mind..case like this (maybe) normal in there and has a point too
maybe the producer want to make yui look more stronger from before

after we know yui is only one who survive after seeing her freind became snack for beta

or maybe you expect lovey-dovey convertation??
hard to imagine BUT once again..
i m belive this one will happened after yui know yuuya close-quarter combat
in bed..
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Bet who'll be dominant in that criteria>>>
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