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Old 2012-07-30, 03:05   Link #81
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Yuuya himself said that she could have taken him out any time but she did not. Taris who is an expert at close quarter combat won against Yuuya. You could say that she had a superior machine. If that's the case, let us say that Yuuya's skill in CQC is probably equal to Tarisa. Yui took out Tarisa and the others effortlessly yet fought against Yuuya for a while.
After ep5's 21:06, Yui changed the tempo after Yuuya mastered some moves.

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Hime Yui: Your talent and potential makes you an unmatched Eishi.

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Old 2012-07-30, 04:02   Link #82
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Yuuya: "Yui Takamura, why are you cruel to me?"

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Old 2012-07-30, 04:06   Link #83
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After ep5's 21:06, Yuri changed the tempo after Yuuya mastered some moves.

In EP5
Hime Yuri: Your talent and potential makes you an unmatched Eishi.
yes, one day yuuya will surpass Yui, there is no doubt in my mind.
but considering...
Spoiler for LN:


there is still much for him to learn.
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Old 2012-07-30, 05:39   Link #84
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what i meant was that she choose not to continue the fight, thus conceeding to his victory, since he passed. Due to certain "weapons" on the Takemikazuchi, even without her sword she could still win with ease.
Those certain "little weapons" may not be enough and depends if "Top Gun" does another on-the-field adaptation.

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Old 2012-07-30, 06:52   Link #85
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You seem to be giving Yuuya too much credit. Had Yui wanted she could have defeated him even without her swords. Yuuya even knows that Yui could have won the fight at any time even after she was disarmed. However Yui didn't go out there to beat Yuuya into a pulp, she came to teach him a lesson which worked.
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Old 2012-07-30, 07:23   Link #86
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You seem to be giving Yuuya too much credit. Had Yui wanted she could have defeated him even without her swords. Yuuya even knows that Yui could have won the fight at any time
That's before EP5:20:15's self realization.
On EP5:20:17, we have a surprised Yui reaction.
On EP5:21:03, the tempo was change.
On EP5:21:07, Yui's finishing action phase.

Yuuya's "Top Gun" nickname is not applied for nothing.

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yes, one day yuuya will surpass Yui, there is no doubt in my mind.
but considering...
Spoiler for LN:


there is still much for him to learn.
Spoiler for LN rhetorical question:
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Old 2012-07-30, 07:51   Link #87
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That doesn't change that even after that Yui could have still easily won. Again she wasn't there to humiliate Yuuya, she was there to teach him a lesson which she succeed at thus there was no reason to continue the fight.
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Old 2012-07-30, 08:58   Link #88
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yes, one day yuuya will surpass Yui, there is no doubt in my mind.
but considering...
Spoiler for LN:
If you have other top level pilots, the battles wouldn't be a walk in the park even for a "Top Gun".

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That doesn't change that even after that Yui could have still easily won. Again she wasn't there to humiliate Yuuya,
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Yui could humiliate Yuuya after EP5:21:07, if Yuuya didn't use his new skills. The other pilots such as VC was surprised with Yuuya's skill on getting a solid hit on Yui.

VC: You got a solid hit in on Lt. Takamura in a TSF you'd barely been able to fly before.

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Old 2012-07-30, 09:25   Link #89
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Didn't Yui use her personal TSF, one that she probably knows every inch of it ?
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Old 2012-07-30, 09:32   Link #90
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Didn't Yui use her personal TSF, one that she probably knows every inch of it ?
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Old 2012-07-30, 09:46   Link #91
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The only reason Yuuya got a solid hit is because Yui went easy on him. If it was a serious battle Yuuya would have been defeated just as easily as the others.
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Old 2012-07-30, 09:51   Link #92
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The only reason Yuuya got a solid hit is because Yui went easy on him. If it was a serious battle Yuuya would have been defeated just as easily as the others.
The tempo was different after EP5:20:17.

Against the other pilots, the moves was pretty basic i.e. one basic slash move for each US F-15 based TSFs (KO'ed the pilots). In a close range sword fight, one doesn't bring small knifes i.e. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01NHcTM5IA4

In general**, US TSFs wasn't designed for close range combat in mind (i.e. like their WWII aircraft counterparts) and assumes it's loaded with combat ammo instead of training ammo.

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Old 2012-07-30, 11:14   Link #93
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Tempo or not Yuuya would not have beaten Yui at all if she decided to fight. SHe could easily have retrieved her weapons at any time.
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Old 2012-07-30, 11:54   Link #94
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It might be good to note that US TSF doctrine seems to focus on the quick strike, Wham Blam Thank You Mam. Japanese doctrine is more of the bushido code, focusing on the individual strikes, up close and personal. Whats that move they use, when a swordsman slices an enemy in one strike before moving on to the next in a smooth flowing motion? Its been sometime since my Kendo days. So they focus more on out maneuvering the opponent up close rather than straight in and out.
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Old 2012-07-30, 11:57   Link #95
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Problem is that while works well one on one it doesn't work very well when you got 10,000 of them in front of you.
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Old 2012-07-30, 12:27   Link #96
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Seems to work well for Yui considering how experienced she is now compared to when she was forced to launch.
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Old 2012-07-30, 13:20   Link #97
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If next episode is beach, Yui should go tsundere like the novel/manga
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Old 2012-07-30, 13:21   Link #98
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Old 2012-07-30, 13:24   Link #99
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Tempo or not Yuuya would not have beaten Yui at all if she decided to fight. SHe could easily have retrieved her weapons at any time.
Yea, but the point still stands that she was bested. So she accepted the loss, cause she was fairly beaten. This wasn't a real fight, but more of a duel, and Yuuya did win with the surprise attack she was not expecting.
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Old 2012-07-30, 13:37   Link #100
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No she wasn't bested because she wasn't trying. Yuuya just showed her that he learns quickly and finally figured out what Yui was trying to teach him.


Furthermore the duel ended because Yui got what she wanted, it didn't end because he "Beat" her or that she couldn't fight anymore which is clearly not the case at all. Even Yuuya knows he didn't beat Yui at all and this was all part of her plan.
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