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Old 2012-07-10, 19:00   Link #121
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Hmm... space is cracking. Well, that must have been Enuma Elish, then. And I have no idea how the girls are going to defeat this thing. It isn't following the rules. Unlimited Blade Works should be able to defeat it, but Kuro hasn't shown any ability to pull that off. Avalon + Excalibur is certainly the most famous counter, but again we have no sign that the girls have Avalon. And... being eaten by the corruption from the grail being manifested through Sakura, if I remember correctly? To be honest, it kind of looks like that's already happened.

They could try the Kaleidescope include with the Saber card, which they used to defeat Berserker, and see if this thing can handle nine Excalibur's at once, but pulling out an old trick like that seems a little too simple.

I just hope all the girls get through this alive.
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Old 2012-07-31, 02:23   Link #122
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There was another Holy Grail War?!

Rin said there is no way the Tousaka wouldn't have notice. Caren countered what makes Rin think her family wasn't in it.

Damn this changes things! We assumed the Einsbern, Tousaka and Makiri/Matou never cooperated but it is starting to look that the Einsberns were left out and did their own ritual for the Holy Grail War but Kiritsugu stopped them. Meanwhile around the same time the Tousaka and Matou made their own Holy Grail War but it failed. Leaving Gil and the rest of the cards. The Fuyuki Grail is inside a cavern. Question is did they create a homunculus back then as a vessel.

So it is still plausible that Shirou is a collateral damage victim of the Fuyuki grail war and Kiritsugu adopted him.

This also brings to question if Sakura is Rin's sister or a real Matou in this reality or a homunculus grail vessel for the next Grail War.


Oh Illya can't get married anymore as she accidentally gripped shota Gil's thing.
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Old 2012-07-31, 06:30   Link #123
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Now we know for sure the Einzbern grail war is unrelated to what is currently happening. The next obvious suspects are obviously the Matou and Tohsaka, but I have a feeling it's more complicated than that.

This chapter was a lot of fun. I was wondering if anybody was going to comment Caren's outfit... good job, Illya

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Oh Illya can't get married anymore as she accidentally gripped shota Gil's thing.
She can just marry Gil. He's stolen her heart once before in UBW, he can do it again

I can't wait for the next chapter. Interaction between Gil and Illya should be hilarious. It will take a while for her to recover after touching "that".
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Old 2012-07-31, 15:18   Link #124
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Her true love is Miyu though. I'm sure she'll be understanding of that incident.

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No Kotomine , no Saber... What will keep him entertained?
Ko Gil is easily entertained, also Kotomine has a cameo.
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Old 2012-07-31, 15:33   Link #125
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As the trama Illya puts herself into...it completely overshadows everything else...of for a moment.
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Old 2012-07-31, 15:46   Link #126
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Her true love is Miyu though. I'm sure she'll be understanding of that incident.
I'm totally okay with that, but what about Shirou?
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Old 2012-07-31, 15:57   Link #127
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I'm totally okay with that, but what about Shirou?
Well, the focus relationship of the manga is with Miyu.
Spoiler for for ending of second season:
Shirou has already too many pseudo love interests to compete with anyway.
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Old 2012-07-31, 15:59   Link #128
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Shirou is the unintended Harem Master

Illya is the Main Character.

Illya's job is to break one of Shirou's harem away for herself, or make her own Harem.
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Old 2012-07-31, 17:23   Link #129
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Shirou needs to step up his game because he doesn't even feature on the best characters poll of this manga. But neither does Luvia.

Also for the ones who were wondering about Ko Gil and Kotomine (spoilers for drei).
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Old 2012-08-03, 02:43   Link #130
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Shirou needs to step up his game because he doesn't even feature on the best characters poll of this manga. But neither does Luvia.
At least, Luvia appeared on the newest poll, but Shirou is still overshadowed by Tatsuko, of all people.

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Old 2012-08-03, 05:03   Link #131
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just read Zwei! 1st chapter

Ilya half a sleep kiss Miyu, thinking that was her beloved brother and demand good morning kiss

does girl in Japan nowadays really into bro-cest?
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Old 2012-08-03, 07:01   Link #132
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At least, Luvia appeared on the newest poll, but Shirou is still overshadowed by Tatsuko, of all people.
But Tatsuko is awesome.
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Old 2012-08-03, 10:56   Link #133
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just read Zwei! 1st chapter

Ilya half a sleep kiss Miyu, thinking that was her beloved brother and demand good morning kiss

does girl in Japan nowadays really into bro-cest?
Remember she is ILLYA, when she was an homunchulus she wanted Shirou, now she has HORMONES to make it better.
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Old 2012-08-03, 12:12   Link #134
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And Shirou's the harem magnet, as shown I think in Xwei! chapter 18.
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Old 2012-08-03, 13:07   Link #135
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Even men (Issei) want him.
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Old 2012-08-03, 16:15   Link #136
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At least, Luvia appeared on the newest poll, but Shirou is still overshadowed by Tatsuko, of all people.
Do you have a link to the newest poll?
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Old 2012-08-04, 02:53   Link #137
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http://bosel.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-870.html
http://blog-imgs-51.fc2.com/b/o/s/bo...9143247d27.jpg
Here's part of it.

Edit:
Here is the whole thing.
Spoiler:

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Old 2012-08-04, 03:35   Link #138
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Thanks! I only had the first half.
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Old 2012-08-04, 06:32   Link #139
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Who is that in fifth place?
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Old 2012-08-04, 08:35   Link #140
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just read Zwei! 1st chapter

Ilya half a sleep kiss Miyu, thinking that was her beloved brother and demand good morning kiss

does girl in Japan nowadays really into bro-cest?
Fan pandering to those without an imouto.

I love Illya's reaction to finding out Shirou is a lady killer.
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