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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 05
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... 35 22.88%
9 out of 10 : Excellent... 41 26.80%
8 out of 10 : Very Good... 29 18.95%
7 out of 10 : Good... 30 19.61%
6 out of 10 : Average... 8 5.23%
5 out of 10 : Below Average... 2 1.31%
4 out of 10 : Poor... 4 2.61%
3 out of 10 : Bad... 1 0.65%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... 2 1.31%
1 out of 10 : Torturous... 1 0.65%
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Old 2012-08-04, 17:37   Link #81
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Well, I was thinking more of the lines of her being a commander, but yes, her being a girl also works

Everyone should know their commander(s).
Remember that quote that Kirito told Agil at the beginning? Where he told Asuna to join a guild when she got invited by someone she trusted?

You can chalk Asuna joining a guild like that because of his advice at the end of ep2 after Illfang died. Although this wasn't animated in the 2nd episode due to time constraints, Kirito also explains to Asuna during their first meeting how to maximize efficiency/movement and other MMO stuff. She was a bit of a noob back then (in terms of game knowledge+lingo, not skill) but it looks like she took this advice seriously.

Of course it has been a very long time since the events of ep2 occurred, but you can see how the seed Kirito planted way back when has resulted in the Asuna of today. One could even argue that if not for Kirito's advice/guidance she might have died at some point, but those "what if" questions have little relevance now.

SRS mode Asuna was cute, especially the drool scene! I imagine that is every girl's nightmare, to wake up in front of someone you are interested in with drool hanging out of your mouth and grass stuck on your face. That .gif with her waking up is #1
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Old 2012-08-04, 17:40   Link #82
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Despite the fact that Kirito somehow manages to meet more girls than men, it's still supposed to be a game where women are the minority.
It's a curse that comes with being a protagonist in anime I figure.

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She was already fighting on the front lines back in episode 2. On the first floor. So since the very beginning she's been in the top 1% of players. Your complaint is way too late.
I shrugged that victory off because of the fact she had Kirito, who was a beta tester, to fight with. Back then she didn't seem very interested in joining a guild either, in fact it was stated this episode that the reason she did so was because Kirito told her to in the first place.

Sorry, but I find it difficult to believe someone who's playing an MMO for the very first time ever would have the know-how and skill to reach the position she's currently in.
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Another scene that caught me was in the starting after Kirito seemed to opposed Asuna's planned, she gave him a look as if she's telling him to "please Kirito, please help us... help me with this...".

Kirito: "....how can I refuse that look..."
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Old 2012-08-04, 17:48   Link #84
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she gave him a look as if she's telling him to "please Kirito, please help us... help me with this...".

Ehh no, this doesn't look like a pleading look at all to me.

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Old 2012-08-04, 17:49   Link #85
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^ That's more of a "I'm going to kill you in your sleep if you don't comply" look
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Ehh no, this doesn't look like a pleading look at all to me.

Ok, guess she meant.

"Got more to say, huh Kirito?!
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Old 2012-08-04, 17:58   Link #87
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Sorry, but I find it difficult to believe someone who's playing an MMO for the very first time ever would have the know-how and skill to reach the position she's currently in.
You're right, to an extent. Asuna, at the time she met Kirito during events that happened before episode 2, was probably not top 1%, but top 10% due to her own tenacity.

The spoilers below pertain to episode 2 and the events of the Aria side story, so beware at your own risk.

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Old 2012-08-04, 18:00   Link #88
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It was really interesting to me to see Kirito (who views the lives of NPCs are just as precious as an actual person) and Asuna (who views NPCs as just programs that will eventually respawn if killed)
Having just read the relevant scene by the author (it's not actually in the novels but was his first attempt at an SAO doujinshi), I don't think that's exactly right.

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Another scene that caught me was in the starting after Kirito seemed to opposed Asuna's planned, she gave him a look as if she's telling him to "please Kirito, please help us... help me with this...".

Kirito: "....how can I refuse that look..."
Rather than debate the question of Asuna's expression, it's worth noting that right after that scene in ME1...
Spoiler for ME1: The Progressers doujinshi:
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Old 2012-08-04, 18:06   Link #89
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Having just read the relevant scene by the author (it's not actually in the novels but was his first attempt at an SAO doujinshi), I don't think that's exactly right.

Spoiler for ME1: The Progressers doujinshi:
Rather than debate the question of Asuna's expression, it's worh noting that right after that scene in ME1...
Spoiler for ME1: The Progressers doujinshi:

I was totally hoping that the

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Old 2012-08-04, 18:08   Link #90
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You're right, to an extent. Asuna, at the time she met Kirito during events that happened before episode 2
I kinda glad those events never happened in the anime. It makes anime Asuna a stronger character (both physically and emotionally) than her novel counterpart.
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I was totally hoping that the

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Old 2012-08-04, 18:09   Link #92
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I was totally hoping that the

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Yeah, but...
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Old 2012-08-04, 18:14   Link #93
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Rather than debate the question of Asuna's expression, it's worth noting that right after that scene in ME1...
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But that didn't happen in the anime so we can't take that into consideration as far as the anime is concerned. Unless they say otherwise later on, we have to assume they followed the plan as previously discussed.
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Old 2012-08-04, 18:18   Link #94
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Yeah, but...
Spoiler for ME1: The Progressers doujinshi:
Although that is certainly true, I always felt that

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@Kazu-kun

It isn't explained in the beginning of ep5 (yay timeskip),
Spoiler for ME1 spoilers, again.:
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Old 2012-08-04, 18:21   Link #95
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Although that is certainly true, I always felt that
You're quite right about what actually happened. I just think it might still be a bit of a tipoff.
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Old 2012-08-04, 18:22   Link #96
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presumably the floor bosses respawn, thus the top players need to return and kill them over and over again to help out the lower level players?
no the floor bosses don't respawn, once they're gone they're gone. it's one of the other reasons why the "knight" from the second episode wanted to get the last shot on the kobold boss and get the special last hit item.
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Old 2012-08-04, 18:30   Link #97
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It isn't explained in the beginning of ep5 (yay timeskip),
Spoiler for ME1 spoilers, again.:
It's not timeskip, it just didn't happen. It would be different if they at least hint that all that did happen, and maybe they will later on, but for now we can't count on that.
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Old 2012-08-04, 18:47   Link #98
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It's not timeskip, it just didn't happen. It would be different if they at least hint that all that did happen, and maybe they will later on, but for now we can't count on that.
LN events are still canon, even if they aren't animated. The events that happened during the meeting were not fully shown in the anime due to time constraints, so the only thing we have to go on is what happened during ME1. The boss strategy meeting was copied straight from ME1, after all.

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Old 2012-08-04, 18:51   Link #99
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The KiritoxAsuna scenes are nice, but as soon as they heard the scream the episode got really boring (for me) :x

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Old 2012-08-04, 18:54   Link #100
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LN events are still canon.
Yeah, but a separate canon from the anime. For instance it was pretty obvious that in the anime Kirito and Asuna didn't meet for the first time in the same way they did in the novel.

The anime is its own thing, so certain events that happened in the novel might not happen in the anime, or might happen in a different way.
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