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Old 2012-08-09, 12:46   Link #1141
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On Sagara's plans for the future:

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How did he do that for juubei by vol5?

Unless u read the spoilers which werent complete.
Juubei goes missing for half a vol., because she falls off a cliff.

I dont think the MC is twisting history.
HE already states that history is changing, and its not going in the linear path.
And thats kinda obvious, because he is a super catalyst which is speeding events up.

Well if u really want to get technical, then he is basically controling events and planning the outcome to his advantages so the LEAST amount of causalities are drawn out.
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Old 2012-08-09, 13:24   Link #1142
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How did he do that for juubei by vol5?

Unless u read the spoilers which werent complete.
Juubei goes missing for half a vol., because she falls off a cliff.

I dont think the MC is twisting history.
HE already states that history is changing, and its not going in the linear path.
And thats kinda obvious, because he is a super catalyst which is speeding events up.

Well if u really want to get technical, then he is basically controling events and planning the outcome to his advantages so the LEAST amount of causalities are drawn out.
Sagara gotten close to a lot of people in this alternate Sengoku era. Although this is not the Sengoku era that his world went through, similar events do come true. If you count to the number of people he gotten close with, most of them are important figures.
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Old 2012-08-09, 14:11   Link #1143
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Sagara gotten close to a lot of people in this alternate Sengoku era. Although this is not the Sengoku era that his world went through, similar events do come true. If you count to the number of people he gotten close with, most of them are important figures.
yup i totally agree with you.

I think of it this way, he is playing a game like shogun, only he is playing for multi roles.
He's playing the hideyoshi route, becuase he is hideyoshi.
And he is also playing the Oda route, because the persons dream which he wants true is Oda.

So i guess u can call him a cheater, because he's trying to play multi routes at the same time and getting them all.
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Old 2012-08-09, 14:17   Link #1144
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yup i totally agree with you.

I think of it this way, he is playing a game like shogun, only he is playing for multi roles.
He's playing the hideyoshi route, becuase he is hideyoshi.
And he is also playing the Oda route, because the persons dream which he wants true is Oda.

So i guess u can call him a cheater, because he's trying to play multi routes at the same time and getting them all.
I wouldn't call him a cheater, its just he gotten so close to all the major figures in the Sengoku Era that he doesn't want anyone of the to die. Its naive, but honorable. Its what Hanbei said to Sagara in the anime, "You can't have everything", Sagara's response, "I can". Hanbei response "That is just like being a kid", Sagara "I am fine with being a kid", then you get dere dere moment.
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Old 2012-08-09, 14:19   Link #1145
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I wouldn't call him a cheater, its just he gotten so close to all the major figures in the Sengoku Era that he doesn't want anyone of the to die. Its naive, but honorable. Its what Hanbei said to Sagara in the anime, "You can't have everything", Sagara's response, "I can". Hanbei response "That is just like being a kid", Sagara "I am fine with being a kid", then you get dere dere moment.
Solutions to all problems? Be a kid. Deny the values of adults.
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Old 2012-08-09, 14:21   Link #1146
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Usually adults don't know the outcome of future things and let alone change them, since Sagara can we can give him some slack for doing so.
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Old 2012-08-09, 14:26   Link #1147
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I was never looking down on him for doing so. If anything, I respect him for having childish ideals, and being able to accomplish them. Maybe that's why kids and high school students are almost always the MCs, they have the childish idealism necessary to actually envision an end where everyone is happy.
When was the last time you watched an anime starring an adult, which ends with everyone happy, and with no major character death or crazy-dark-traumatic events? I can't can't remember, honestly...
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Old 2012-08-09, 14:26   Link #1148
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Usagi Drop.
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Old 2012-08-09, 14:28   Link #1149
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Usagi Drop.
So 2011, and josei. Anything Shounen or Seinen?
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Old 2012-08-09, 14:42   Link #1150
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I cannot think of anything, but its not like Sagara had a smooth ride trying to keep everyone alive.
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Old 2012-08-09, 16:35   Link #1151
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When was the last time you watched an anime starring an adult, which ends with everyone happy, and with no major character death or crazy-dark-traumatic events? I can't can't remember, honestly...
ORANGE YANE NO CHIISANA <---- easiest said, its japanese brady bunch.

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Usagi Drop.


i still think though it would of been more perfect if rin got with kyoki and kyoki's mom got with daisuki.

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I cannot think of anything, but its not like Sagara had a smooth ride trying to keep everyone alive.
Well, Sagara's mission isnt whistles and bells, but he does have some history on his side, while keeping his powers cap'd and stagnet.
(very difficult if u ask me, but on a different level)

The other MC's needed a POWER UP of some sort.

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Old 2012-08-09, 18:29   Link #1152
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Not sure what power ups they would have, pretty much Oda Nobuna no Yabou is all about battle tactics, techniques, and strategy.
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Old 2012-08-09, 19:09   Link #1153
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So 2011, and josei. Anything Shounen or Seinen?
So far everyone in Jorumgand still lives.

I don't really watch those kinda of show, I think that's more to do with me just not interested in most adult protagonists stories... I've got western tv shows for that.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, I can think of a lot of highschool and middle school protagonists that don't get perfectly happy endings.
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Old 2012-08-09, 19:35   Link #1154
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Not sure what power ups they would have, pretty much Oda Nobuna no Yabou is all about battle tactics, techniques, and strategy.
I wouldn't say that. So far, it's more about predicting events and many things are from RTK or the Sengoku historic events.

It's more fantasy/historic/maybe-action to me. Romance tag and else also are present, but definitively fantasy.
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Old 2012-08-09, 20:01   Link #1155
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So far everyone in Jorumgand still lives.

I don't really watch those kinda of show, I think that's more to do with me just not interested in most adult protagonists stories... I've got western tv shows for that.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, I can think of a lot of highschool and middle school protagonists that don't get perfectly happy endings.
Jormungand, on one hand, is the kind of show that pretty much screams to me "wear sunglasses and look cool" to enjoy, besides its premise being about an almost apathetic lead of a group of mercenaries, who pretty much defines "service with a smile" to the T... and having some characters likening her to a "dragon", everyone in the story is pretty happy to me. Well, the protagonists' side, at least.

*cough*acertainmagicalgirlshow*cough*

I think that as adults, we tend to get skeptical and/or critical over ideals, especially ones which Sagara has himself said he wanted to achieve and that he believes he can do it. Maybe we call it "growing out of it", but to me honestly there's nothing wrong in him wanting to realize his wish.

In a general POV, we tend to think too much on whether he can and will have the capacity to achieve it (as we do on some other protagonists who have a very high standard of ideals), because that was our main concern for these protagonists.

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Solutions to all problems? Be a kid. Deny the values of adults.
Being a kid does have its perks, you know, sometimes greater than what the adults could hope for. Which is why there are people who feel like they want to go back being a child.

And then there's Nobusumi...

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Not sure what power ups they would have, pretty much Oda Nobuna no Yabou is all about battle tactics, techniques, and strategy.
Mental capacity level ups? Nah, just kidding. Besides, Sagara ending up in the Sengoku Era, although different than that from his own, his knowledge on it pretty much has been backing him a lot, though I wonder how much longer he can keep depending on it for his own good myself.
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Old 2012-08-09, 21:01   Link #1156
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I wouldn't say that. So far, it's more about predicting events and many things are from RTK or the Sengoku historic events.

It's more fantasy/historic/maybe-action to me. Romance tag and else also are present, but definitively fantasy.
True, they got Ninja that actually do what you expect a Ninja to do. Also, there Onmyouji. So I think they are bound to be more things than normal in the future.
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Old 2012-08-09, 21:10   Link #1157
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After looking though the illustrations, does that loli alchimist end up joinning his loli squad harem?

Can someone tell me his current list of retainers?
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Old 2012-08-09, 21:44   Link #1158
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After looking though the illustrations, does that loli alchimist end up joinning his loli squad harem?

Can someone tell me his current list of retainers?
You mean the goth looking one?
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Old 2012-08-09, 22:41   Link #1159
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Volume 4 Illustrations

Spoiler for Fall of the General:
Proof that Nobuna is the prettiest girl in Japan. The assassin that sniped her, Zenjuubou, said that he could not shoot her face for instant kill because her smile was too dazzling. . He also thinks that Nobuna was protected by the Heaven.

Asakura Yoshikage thinks that Nobuna is Wakamurasaki from Tale of Genji. When the brat Tsuchimikado reported that he also killed Akechi who once under the Asakura family, Yoshikage said that if not for Akechi's large forehead, she would've been the Wakamurasaki. Yoshikage then liken her to Oborozukiyo (Genji's brother's wife).

I think I'm going to regret buying these books
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Old 2012-08-09, 23:01   Link #1160
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I knew somewhere along the lines Genji was going to come up. Well at least it was for entertaining reasons. I never knew Matchlock rifles were that strong, it was enough to make Nobuna fall of her horse.
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