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Old 2012-08-06, 15:01   Link #1101
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It was the first time X Rounder abilities were portrayed negatively. Before then they were useful powers with no draw backs, but now they can apparantly make you totally crazy.
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Old 2012-08-06, 15:09   Link #1102
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The first time they were portrayed negatively yes, but not the first time they were said to be negative or even hinted at being negative. There was Zeheart openly saying it in I think 22 or 23, and there's the fact that most X-Rounders seem to be insane, some more than others like Desil and Minks. In fact Kio is the only X-Rounder who wants to use them for understanding instead of killing.
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Old 2012-08-19, 05:08   Link #1103
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I wonder what other tech the Vagan got from EXA-DB. Given that Sid used the purple fairy dust propulsion system, I'm guessing that's one of them.

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Old 2012-08-19, 05:11   Link #1104
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I wonder what other tech the Vagan got from EXA-DB. Given that Sid used the purple fairy dust propulsion system, I'm guessing that's one of it.
I'd say advanced MS engineering had to be one of them. The way their MS are built is very advanced.
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Old 2012-08-19, 06:27   Link #1105
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I'd say advanced MS engineering had to be one of them. The way their MS are built is very advanced.
Well, off the top of my head, we're probably looking at:
  1. Propulsion
  2. Armor
  3. Weaponry
  4. Invisible Umbrella
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Old 2012-08-19, 06:32   Link #1106
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Yellow beams and the beam bit tech as well. Which makes me wonder why the Vagan deploy the X-Transmitters earlier. Perhaps they got hold of a part of that data from EXA-DB but not the entire copy, so had to work on refining it?
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Old 2012-08-19, 06:36   Link #1107
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Yellow beams and the beam bit tech as well. Which makes me wonder why the Vagan deploy the X-Transmitters earlier. Perhaps they got hold of a part of that data from EXA-DB but not the entire copy, so had to work on refining it?
I think it's more likely what they got ahold of from the EXA-DB was the technology they used in the Farsia's Flower Funnels; my question is why they didn't deploy it in either the Second or the Third Generation barring the Fawnfarsia. The lack of beam bit tech until the Third Generation seems legit, especially if that was actually something the Vagan developed independently of the EXA-DB.
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Old 2012-08-19, 07:07   Link #1108
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AGE has so many tech questions and discussion fuel, but do they care to give us any info? NOOOOOOOOO, bastards.

Two things I wanna know is why the Vagan beams are yellow (besides artistic difference), are they made of different particles, or what? Secondly is their god damn purple pixy fart boosters, what the hell type of propulsion technology is that?!
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Old 2012-08-19, 07:27   Link #1109
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AGE has so many tech questions and discussion fuel, but do they care to give us any info? NOOOOOOOOO, bastards.

Two things I wanna know is why the Vagan beams are yellow (besides artistic difference), are they made of different particles, or what? Secondly is their god damn purple pixy fart boosters, what the hell type of propulsion technology is that?!
They can't give you solid answers because there's no scientific basis in the technologies at all.
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Old 2012-08-19, 07:51   Link #1110
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They can't give you solid answers because there's no scientific basis in the technologies at all.
Fear not, my brilliant group of scientist monkeys has the answer for the propulsion.

Evil Lacus dust.

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Old 2012-08-19, 08:58   Link #1111
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AGE has so many tech questions and discussion fuel, but do they care to give us any info? NOOOOOOOOO, bastards.

Two things I wanna know is why the Vagan beams are yellow (besides artistic difference), are they made of different particles, or what? Secondly is their god damn purple pixy fart boosters, what the hell type of propulsion technology is that?!
My guess is that they're just to show that Vagan tech is more advanced that Earth tech, that's all.
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Old 2012-08-19, 18:17   Link #1112
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Well, Shido seems to be using the same propulsion system, or something very similar since it has the same purple color as the Vagan units.Its beams are purple though, not yellow.
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Old 2012-08-19, 21:14   Link #1113
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So Sid was referred to as a mobile suit, and not a mobile armor, even though it fits all the bills of a mobile armor. Thought that was kind of odd. I guess mobile armors don't exist in the AGEverse.
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Old 2012-08-20, 02:33   Link #1114
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With Vagan's "high speed mold", why aren't we seeing an army of Gundam Legilis?

Resources does not seem to be the problem here....
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Old 2012-08-20, 03:37   Link #1115
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With Vagan's "high speed mold", why aren't we seeing an army of Gundam Legilis?

Resources does not seem to be the problem here....
I guess Legilis was envisioned as the mobile suit of the knight that would bring light to humanity. So to mass produce it would insult its stature I guess.

If they really want to mass produce Legilis, reverse engineer it, remove that Gundam face and ta-da, you get Vagan's newest mass production suit. Though by making Vagan overwhelmingly strong could be an obstacle to Ezelcant's plan - he did say he wanted to select the superior humans from Vagan and Fed so Vagan's power should be pegged to Fed's.
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Old 2012-08-20, 06:07   Link #1116
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Or the fact that the Legilis is such a high performance suit that regular pilots can't handle it

Seeing how Zeheart took off his mask and didnt need to surpress his X-rounder powers in the Legilis i highly doubt the suit itself is grunt material
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Old 2012-08-20, 06:53   Link #1117
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With Vagan's "high speed mold", why aren't we seeing an army of Gundam Legilis?

Resources does not seem to be the problem here....
The high speed mold could be limited in some way (copier?); the Legilis being somewhat based on the now wrecked Age-3.

Plus they've lost their chance to mass produce stuff in this arc, now that the lunar military factories is in the EFF hands. Didn't the vegans, through deceit, utilize EFF's own facilities and resources to build their killing machines?
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Old 2012-08-20, 13:23   Link #1118
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Or the fact that the Legilis is such a high performance suit that regular pilots can't handle it

Seeing how Zeheart took off his mask and didnt need to surpress his X-rounder powers in the Legilis i highly doubt the suit itself is grunt material
That's the easy part: Modify the OS to place performance limiters on the suit in relation to the pilot's skill level. Regular pilots can still benefit and use a top-of-the-line suit, and as they gain more experience and tolerance for the punishment they can take, peel back the OS-enforced limiters to unlock more of the suit.
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Old 2012-08-21, 02:26   Link #1119
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True, True, but what would be the point of mass-producing Legilis and put limiters on them when you can stick a pilot in a Dorado (for example) with a Mu-zcell for similar grunt results?

it's not like we're going to see any exceptional Grunt pilots

This is, of course assuming Legilis would be harder to build than say, a Dorado.
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Old 2012-08-26, 20:58   Link #1120
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After seeing Gundam Legilis at full(?) power, how can AGE-FX be able to match and beat it?

It is even faster than Dark Hound in flight mode.

The Legilis' bits were really impressive against Sid and seems near infinite. I was surprised it can a barrier like the FX.
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