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Old 2012-08-25, 11:40   Link #121
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That's my favorite theory actually.
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Old 2012-08-25, 15:27   Link #122
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Problem with that is that it makes all the build-up a complete let down. When you want sales, you generally try not to disappoint your readers on purpose.
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Old 2012-08-25, 17:01   Link #123
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Disappoint? I think it's a really cool maneuver. It teaches you to not just plainly assume things just because you think you have all the clues, when all you really have is a few random facts.
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Old 2012-08-25, 20:12   Link #124
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A mystery is meant to be solved. If it is unable to be solved, then it is not a mystery, it's merely a question you wait to be answered. And since its been built up as a mystery...
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Old 2012-08-25, 20:43   Link #125
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(hypothetical and totally not indicative of any actual fact)

Tobi is [insert a random name of somebody we don't know (yet) here]

Mystery solved.
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Old 2012-08-25, 21:07   Link #126
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Again, that's not a mystery. A mystery can be solved. If the character hasn't been introduced in some fashion, then it's impossible to solve it.
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Old 2012-08-25, 21:39   Link #127
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Again, that's not a mystery. A mystery can be solved. If the character hasn't been introduced in some fashion, then it's impossible to solve it.
Of course it is. The solution is "We don't know this guy.".
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Old 2012-08-25, 21:42   Link #128
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Of course it is. The solution is "We don't know this guy.".
Keep in mind the manga is titled, "Naruto" so why would the current MAIN VILLAIN in the manga NARUTO be someone that NARUTO doesn't know... Unlike time travelling sasuke. I mean come on! It makes as much sense as "We don't know this guy"

Sheesh.
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Old 2012-08-25, 21:48   Link #129
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Of course it is. The solution is "We don't know this guy.".
The last page of Chapter 598 is...

WHO ARE YOU!!??
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Old 2012-08-25, 22:25   Link #130
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Keep in mind the manga is titled, "Naruto" so why would the current MAIN VILLAIN in the manga NARUTO be someone that NARUTO doesn't know... Unlike time travelling sasuke. I mean come on! It makes as much sense as "We don't know this guy"

Sheesh.
You know, that actually makes a lot of sense.

Therefore, Tobi can only be Zabuza.
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Old 2012-08-25, 23:25   Link #131
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Of course it is. The solution is "We don't know this guy.".
Clearly you don't read literary fiction, because that's not how the mystery genre works. You're applying real world mysteries to works of fiction. The only readers who would want a mystery character's reveal to end with "new character never before introduced or hinted at" are those who just want to laugh at people who spent time coming up with actual theories.
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Old 2012-08-25, 23:32   Link #132
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Clearly you don't read literary fiction, because that's not how the mystery genre works. You're applying real world mysteries to works of fiction. The only readers who would want a mystery character's reveal to end with "new character never before introduced or hinted at" are those who just want to laugh at people who spent time coming up with actual theories.
And here I was thinking Naruto was a Shonen Fighting manga.
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Old 2012-08-25, 23:55   Link #133
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Keep in mind the manga is titled, "Naruto" so why would the current MAIN VILLAIN in the manga NARUTO be someone that NARUTO doesn't know... Unlike time travelling sasuke. I mean come on! It makes as much sense as "We don't know this guy"

Sheesh.
So... Naruto knew all the other villans when they first showed up? Right.
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Old 2012-08-26, 00:39   Link #134
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And here I was thinking Naruto was a Shonen Fighting manga.
A Shonen manga with 598 chapters of backstory. Not to mention all the secrets and history hinted at in the ninja world naruto inhabits, and has clearly displayed in the past...
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Old 2012-08-26, 01:49   Link #135
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Again.... the last page of chapter 598 is "WHO ARE YOU"
which means TObi is someone we already knew from the past,

since Kakashi and Gai are thinking what we think, its pretty obvious now who is TObi now....

I have this theory that the other "Dimension" Kamui created is a Dimension where Time "STOPS",

Madara trained Obito there
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Old 2012-08-26, 05:07   Link #136
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^That's about as fickle as an argument can get. Wanting to know who someone wearing a mask is, is NORMAL.
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Old 2012-08-26, 07:11   Link #137
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it's the first time we ever saw the mangekyou sharingan of the masked man and it's the same as kakashi, no doubt they both possess the eyes of the same man obito,

and now naruto shattered the mask, looks like we will know the biggest villan in the next chapter
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Old 2012-08-26, 08:48   Link #138
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and now naruto shattered the mask, looks like we will know the biggest villan in the next chapter
Or we have a complete chapter of Kakashi, Gai, original-Naruto and Bee standing in the normal dimension and waiting for Tobi to reappear, which he doesn't because he is unconscious.

Makes me wonder: Does the "a Kagebunshin that disappears transfers his knowledge" works between dimensions?
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Old 2012-08-26, 09:00   Link #139
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Or we have a complete chapter of Kakashi, Gai, original-Naruto and Bee standing in the normal dimension and waiting for Tobi to reappear, which he doesn't because he is unconscious.

Makes me wonder: Does the "a Kagebunshin that disappears transfers his knowledge" works between dimensions?
my answer would be yes...but I'm expecting for tobi to return to the normal dimension just like when kakashi sent the rasengan and it smashed tobis arm
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Old 2012-08-26, 09:01   Link #140
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Kishi has a nice way of unmasking his characters.
Spoiler for :

Spoiler for Tobi is Haku!:


Anyone expecting Kakashi's face to be revealed in a similar fashion?
guys see the pattern???

haku and tobi both wear masks
haku looked like a girl sounded like one too but was a guy
tobi maybe looks like a guy sounds like one but might actually be a girl

*coughs coughs RIN coughs coughs*

lol just saying
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