Sword Art Online / Accel World Connections & Comparisons

[orpheus2]

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Originally Posted by Komeirin

Spoiler for SAO spoilers beware:

To add, there are automatic identification camera (social camera's predecessor?) and subjective time acceleration introduced in the novel too.

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Do you think it's possible Kayaba was the who created the BB? At end of ALO, Kayaba seem to help Kirito defeat Oberon. It implies that Kayaba is now alive digitally and is creating a new experiment,BB, in supposed future, Accel World. Take Note: I saw this in the tvtropes WMG page.

[Rayrah]

Originally Posted by orpheus2

Spoiler for Regarding that:

Do you think it's possible Kayaba was the who created the BB? At end of ALO, Kayaba seem to help Kirito defeat Oberon. It implies that Kayaba is now alive digitally and is creating a new experiment,BB, in supposed future, Accel World. Take Note: I saw this in the tvtropes WMG page.

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[ronelm2000]

Well, Kayaba couldn't have done it in the first place, because he doesn't have access to the technology behind BB.

Spoiler for LN Alicization:

Remember that only RATH has 4th Gen tech right now. And they already developed the FluctLight Acceleration, which is essentially the same as Burst Link...

[orpheus2]

Originally Posted by ronelm2000

Well, Kayaba couldn't have done it in the first place, because he doesn't have access to the technology behind BB.

Spoiler for LN Alicization:

Remember that only RATH has 4th Gen tech right now. And they already developed the FluctLight Acceleration, which is essentially the same as Burst Link...

Good point. Even if he is now a digital entity and has the technical expertise, he still needs the technology which is likely to be protected by strong firewalls.

[Craxuan]

Kayaba is supposed to be

Spoiler for Kayaba:

dead -.-". After ALO we never met him ever again.

[ronelm2000]

Originally Posted by Craxuan

Kayaba is supposed to be

Spoiler for Kayaba:

dead -.-". After ALO we never met him ever again.

It was never really explicitly said...

In fact, many LN readers are actually speculating that:

Spoiler:

He's still alive.

[Craxuan]

When the person himself says:

Spoiler for Kayaba:

That he's nothing more but a fragment of his dead self, that he's going to pass away and leave the rest to Kirito, I don't speculate that he's alive. It's just that I'm can't stand people making clear cut speculations with Kayaba alive as basis, when it's never confirmed, and hasn't shown up for at least five volumes.

[larethian]

Originally Posted by ninryu

I'm not talking about technology, I'm talking about PLOT. Which Accel World sadly lacks.

It's really funny how such a judgement can be made. Currently, it's only because SAO is full TLed and AW is not. AW has more plot than one might think. Based on the author's words in v10/v11, AW's story is just beginning!! And he has hinted indirectly that it might go over 20 volumes.

Originally Posted by kyp275

Apparently BT haven't translated the author note in vol10 anyway... but this is an excerpt from chinese translation sites

"...尤其是關于最後『對決』，那雖然是四處可以窺見兩系列之間關聯性的作品，但作為作者，我現在要立于 《兩部作品並無明確的聯系》這一立場上"

Especially considering [Versus], although that's a work where you can see the correlation/links between the two series, but as the author, I will state now my position that "There are no clear link between the two series"

I can verify that the Chinese translation of the Japanese text is absolutely correct.

[sky black swordman]

For now anyway.
But in the future he may change his mind.

[orpheus2]

Originally Posted by sky black swordman

For now anyway.
But in the future he may change his mind.

True.
Just wait and see. So far Vol. 12, ups the ante with its revelations. So I'd say it go on a bit longer.

[GenjiChan]

To be fair.... I watched Accel World.... the female lead is very cute.... yeah, she's cute.

When I saw SOA and seen the cool "godlike" Kirito and "goddess like" Asuna..everything's decided

..well, two is better than one....

[ronelm2000]

Originally Posted by Craxuan

When the person himself says:

Spoiler for Kayaba:

That he's nothing more but a fragment of his dead self, that he's going to pass away and leave the rest to Kirito, I don't speculate that he's alive. It's just that I'm can't stand people making clear cut speculations with Kayaba alive as basis, when it's never confirmed, and hasn't shown up for at least five volumes.

There's no said evidence of Kayaba's body being dead. ever. (only words from a programmed AI he created...right?) Of course feel free to try and prove me wrong.

[GenjiChan]

Originally Posted by ronelm2000

There's no said evidence of Kayaba's body being dead. ever. (only words from a programmed AI he created...right?) Of course feel free to try and prove me wrong.

Spoiler for About Kayaba:

I think Kayaba is physically dead since it was mentioned by his secretary...

[Awrya]

Originally Posted by ronelm2000

There's no said evidence of Kayaba's body being dead. ever. (only words from a programmed AI he created...right?) Of course feel free to try and prove me wrong.

Spoiler for Vol.4, Ch.8:

" - Are you alive?"
With that short question, I heard an answer after the briefest instant of silence.
『You could say that I am, and you could say that I'm not. In a sense, I am - an echo of Kayaba Akihiko's consciousness, an afterimage.』

and

Spoiler for Vo.4, Ch.9:

It seemed Kayaba had decided to die with the collapse of the world of SAO before the incident even occurred. But it was an unusual way to die. It seems he remodeled a FullDive machine to perform a super-high-power scan of his brain, where it burned out his brain and killed him.
The probability of the scan being successful wasn’t even 1 in 1000 - and, although it was baseless, she told me that in her heart she had the feeling that he somehow had succeeded.
If it worked as Kayaba intended, his own memories and thoughts, all of the electrical signals in his brain should have become digital code and should exist in the network as a real electronic brain.

Pretty certain that he is dead, if 4000 players died in SAO due to frying their brains, Kayaba isn't an exception. Confirmed by his assistant and the electronic copy of Kayaba himself.

[ronelm2000]

Originally Posted by Awrya

and

Pretty certain that he is dead, if 4000 players died in SAO due to frying their brains, Kayaba isn't an exception. Confirmed by his assistant and the electronic copy of Kayaba himself.

Damnit stop using quotes for referencing! It does not carry over when I reply to them!

Also, I was saying: was there records of anyone finding his body yet? I was trying to find a reference to that but with failing results....

[orpheus2]

This is for fun.

We may have yet another connection or homage.

Spoiler for Speculation(Vol. 10+):

Graphite Edge
Details:
lieutenant of NN
Master of Black Lotus
Most powerful member of NN. Even more powerful than BL
Nerv-gear like helmet
Twin sword style
Has Kirito's sword skills
Black color due to his graphite body.

[Rayrah]

Originally Posted by orpheus2

This is for fun.

We may have yet another connection or homage.

Spoiler for Speculation(Vol. 10+):

Graphite Edge
Nerv-gear like helmet
Has Kirito's sword skills

A connection and a homage are two different things, and if something is a homage, it in no way implies that it's a connection. In this case, I'm inclined to believe that it's the latter.

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[ronelm2000]

Originally Posted by orpheus2

This is for fun.

We may have yet another connection or homage.

Spoiler for Speculation (Vol. 10+):

Graphite Edge
Details:
lieutenant of NN
Master of Black Lotus
Most powerful member of NN. Even more powerful than BL
Nerv-gear like helmet
Twin sword style
Has Kirito's sword skills
Black color due to his graphite body.

At least say that it's a Vol 10+ AW spoiler! I haven't actually read the thing yet! (and I'm trying to find some links to them with no result... )

[orpheus2]

Originally Posted by Aphrah

A connection and a homage are two different things, and if something is a homage, it in no way implies that it's a connection. In this case, I'm inclined to believe that it's the latter.

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Yeah, I know. I just posted here since it was more appropriate than Accel World L/N thread.

If you're wondering about my position, I am more on the side of homage. I am just open-minded about possible connections.

Originally Posted by ronelm2000

At least say that it's a Vol 10+ AW spoiler! I haven't actually read the thing yet! (and I'm trying to find some links to them with no result... )

Edited the post. The info came from the bonus novel from the BD.

[tomtkp]

Just finished watching Accel World episode 22. I was shocked at that one scene.

Spoiler for The scene:

Based on the history of the development of the VR devices, the first VR device that was invented in 2020s is "NervGear".

The anime already proclaiming that AW is the future (or at least in the same universe) of SAO???