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View Poll Results: Who’s Under the Mask?
Madara 104 32.91%
Madara’s Son 14 4.43%
Madara’s Clone 30 9.49%
Madara’s Ghost/Soul/Poltergeist given shape... 33 10.44%
Obito 59 18.67%
Obito’s Body, but not really Obito... 55 17.41%
Someone else’s body (not Obito’s)... 21 6.65%
Zetsu’s Love Child... 23 7.28%
Tobirama/Sarutobi/or anyone with a 'tobi' in their name... 16 5.06%
Bruce Wayne or other… 69 21.84%
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Old 2012-08-30, 12:02   Link #1261
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I wasn't trying to "prove" anything, I actually tried to point out what you just did. "Tobi" isn't a shared identity, "Madara" is.
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Old 2012-08-30, 14:59   Link #1262
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well, now that it is revealed that the masked man is obito, all my theories matter no more, i put up all the logic from all the episodes and chapters trying to prove that it is not obito, but looks like Kishi has some other plans and it really suprised me(in a good way),

but now it's very interesting to know how obito came to being what he is right now
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Old 2012-08-30, 17:09   Link #1263
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Rin really led Obito along there. Whispers something in his ear to meet him at the park, turning out to just be a group meeting with everyone to surprise Kakashi.

I went back and watched that scene where Obito "dies", and he did say he was the only one who didn't get Kakashi a present when he became a jounin, so that was a solid tie-in there.

Seems we didn't see the other half of his face in the Konan fight because it was normal looking. Kishi really had us thinking he was some old guy when he first showed part of his face to Sasuke. I guess a senior citizen-looking villain would be more of a rarity in Jump manga, Danzo aside. =p
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Old 2012-08-31, 17:28   Link #1264
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Rin really led Obito along there. Whispers something in his ear to meet him at the park, turning out to just be a group meeting with everyone to surprise Kakashi.

I went back and watched that scene where Obito "dies", and he did say he was the only one who didn't get Kakashi a present when he became a jounin, so that was a solid tie-in there.

Seems we didn't see the other half of his face in the Konan fight because it was normal looking. Kishi really had us thinking he was some old guy when he first showed part of his face to Sasuke. I guess a senior citizen-looking villain would be more of a rarity in Jump manga, Danzo aside. =p
I was at first hoping it was an old guy, even though it'd be funny picturing an elderly person acting like a moron and literally falling all over Deidara-senpai
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Old 2012-09-01, 00:29   Link #1265
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that is true, but he would have had to cut it for his minato fight and then grow it out again before the uchiha massacre? that doesnt really make sense to me, although it is possible if hair can even grow that fast. long haired tobi is a lot longer than short hair tobi
srry but why would tobi have to cut his hair for minato fight?according to naruto wiki tobi only had long hair after fighting minato.he met itachi and controlled the 4th mizukage after his fight with minato hence the long hair.he might have just grew out his hair.
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Old 2012-09-01, 00:57   Link #1266
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srry but why would tobi have to cut his hair for minato fight?according to naruto wiki tobi only had long hair after fighting minato.he met itachi and controlled the 4th mizukage after his fight with minato hence the long hair.he might have just grew out his hair.
oh yea? I thought that tobi's control over the mizukage came before his fight with minato. if you're right then thanks for the info. i actually thought that his control over the mizukage came before obito's death, meaning long hair tobi would certainly be a different person

but it still raises the question of why he would grow his hair only to cut it again. he was still 'pretending' to be madara at the kage summit. if he was using the long hair to resemble madara more then he should have just kept it
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Old 2012-09-01, 02:48   Link #1267
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Yea I used to think the same way.but I checked out tobi's profile and found out he had long hair after his battle with minato.I was actually hoping there were 2 different guys.anyway let's just see what Kishi has in stor for us all.
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Old 2012-09-01, 12:26   Link #1268
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I base what I think off reading and re reading the manga, makes more sense to go off that than a data book or naruto wiki. Still thought it was Obito regardless :P
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Old 2012-09-02, 14:45   Link #1269
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Check out chapter 501 pg8.i think
That page might be prove of tobi being 2 ppl or more.the part where kurama looks at tobi and goes 'you'. theres no way that could have been obito because kurama had never met obito from what we know.so theres no way the tobi that fought minato was obito

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Old 2012-09-02, 17:45   Link #1270
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Okany new theory on Obito/Madara

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Old 2012-09-03, 13:47   Link #1271
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Old 2012-09-03, 17:48   Link #1272
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Check out chapter 501 pg8.i think
That page might be prove of tobi being 2 ppl or more.the part where kurama looks at tobi and goes 'you'. theres no way that could have been obito because kurama had never met obito from what we know.so theres no way the tobi that fought minato was obito
It wasn't necessarily a "You...!" of recognition, we especially can't read that much into it from a translation. Also, why would anyone else wear a mask with only a right eyehole? It's not like there would be any reason for someone to impersonate the real Tobi. If any theory is more plausible it's that there's some sort of possession or influencing by Madara going on.
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Old 2012-09-03, 17:52   Link #1273
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I still think that's backwards. I think Tobi is the one doing the impersonating.
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Old 2012-09-04, 05:27   Link #1274
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What if Tobi is really... Tobi! I know this is a long shot but it's workable.
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Old 2012-09-04, 06:58   Link #1275
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It wasn't necessarily a "You...!" of recognition, we especially can't read that much into it from a translation. Also, why would anyone else wear a mask with only a right eyehole? It's not like there would be any reason for someone to impersonate the real Tobi. If any theory is more plausible it's that there's some sort of possession or influencing by Madara going on.
just a plausibility brah...thats all
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Old 2012-09-05, 10:08   Link #1276
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Old 2012-09-09, 21:17   Link #1277
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If Tobi is Obito, then who fought Minato? Tobi was unware of Minatos speed when they fought. How can this be if Minato was his Sensei. Wouldn't Minato pick this up that it was Obito if it was him?
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^Technically, Obito had never seen Hiraishin (the technique was literally first used around the time of his "death"). So, Tobi could have still been surprised.
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Old 2012-09-09, 23:54   Link #1279
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If Tobi is Obito, then who fought Minato? Tobi was unware of Minatos speed when they fought. How can this be if Minato was his Sensei. Wouldn't Minato pick this up that it was Obito if it was him?
back when he was a konoha ninja, obito wasn't at a level to ever have had a reason to see all of minato's techniques. as another example, pre-SM naruto would have been surprised if he ever fought jiraiya to find out that jiraiya could do something like sage mode. nagato didn't know about it either and he was jiraiya's student as well.
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Old 2012-09-11, 13:31   Link #1280
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^Technically, Obito had never seen Hiraishin (the technique was literally first used around the time of his "death"). So, Tobi could have still been surprised.
Yeah, but how the hell did Obito/Tobi get older/taller/stronger so fast when Minato looked barely a day older?
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