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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 10
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... 114 53.52%
9 out of 10 : Excellent... 48 22.54%
8 out of 10 : Very Good... 25 11.74%
7 out of 10 : Good... 10 4.69%
6 out of 10 : Average... 7 3.29%
5 out of 10 : Below Average... 1 0.47%
4 out of 10 : Poor... 3 1.41%
3 out of 10 : Bad... 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... 1 0.47%
1 out of 10: Torturous... 4 1.88%
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Old 2012-09-11, 02:31   Link #441
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Boring mundane answer: Same reason Darth Vader never said, "Whoa, Artoo? Threepio? Long time no see."

Fanwank answer: They obviously didn't want to disturb Kirito when he was getting ready for the fight, and the scene cut away after he lost so for all we know Egil, Klein, Asuna and the girls took him out of a choco-banana parfait to cheer him up.
For R2/C3PO reference, I'm pretty sure George Lucas never originally intended for them to be in the prequel, until he wrote the final versions later on.

However, yes, I can see that it is possible they met offscreen after the event.

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Have you ever been to any major sports event? I was at one once and I had a friend of my brother playing in the game, so I naively thought I should say hi to him. But I just had to look around me to see the thousands of other people waving and screaming to realise that nothing I did would be likely to make me stand out enough for him to notice. It's not like you get a backstage pass just on your word that you know someone.
They are probably on his friends' list, so all they have to do is message him to meet up at a spot afterwards.
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Old 2012-09-11, 02:43   Link #442
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Dear Animesuki,
I previously said I wouldn't come participate in this sub-forum but I have to get this out.
I got trolled and to that I say, well played.

A while back I caused a stink regarding the first bunch of episodes and how poor the story was presented, especially regarding showing the gravity of the situation of certain elements (ie. solo player, 'beater').
My beef was that I was expecting a natural progression in story from these episodes:
How they anime presented the show:
Event A -> Event C

Me: Huh? Where's Event B?
If you're showing the show in linear fashion, I'm expecting to see Event B.

How the novel presents itself (from what I hear from the posters in this sub-forum):
Event C
|-> Sidestory Event A (ie. Flashback)

Readers: Ok, good side story.
Readers aren't asking for Event B because they already know Event A was a side story, hence know there's no expectation for more progress on Event A (ie. an Event B).

Some novel readers told me to pay extra attention because they were important main plots and the show was trying to integrate side stories into the main story. Trying.
Despite learning they were side stories, the critical element I missed was this: side stories are side stories.

I was still stupid enough to give it enough weight to argue they should have shown us things like Kirito struggling on his solo adventures, how people should have been on his arse for being a 'beater'.
I was so focused on these parts and complaining why they weren't following it up properly, and posters just dismissed it all as 'you missed the subtly in episode X, pay more attention'.
We're 4 (or 5?) episodes into the main story and Kirito's already getting married. This perfectly explains why the gravity of being solo & the beater elements weren't at all heavy and why we didn't get to see some struggle with these aspects.
Side stories are side stories, and I got trolled.
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Old 2012-09-11, 03:26   Link #443
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They sure are marching through the story fast. I don't know how I feel about that TBH.

This game is pretty old-school if you can even attack people in the same guild as you. There aren't many MMOs out there these days where guildmates can be attacked.

And yeah yeah, 2 years of you know what, how does kissing and sex work in the virtual world, etc. etc., glop glop, so on and so forth.

I would ask if it were possible to get virtually pregnant in SAO but it's been 2 years and presumably plenty of other people have already tested it and there aren't any virtual infants. I guess that's one advantage SAO has over the real world, you can glop all you want without any protection and you are 100% guaranteed not to get pregnant!
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Old 2012-09-11, 03:39   Link #444
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They sure are marching through the story fast. I don't know how I feel about that TBH.

This game is pretty old-school if you can even attack people in the same guild as you. There aren't many MMOs out there these days where guildmates can be attacked.

And yeah yeah, 2 years of you know what, how does kissing and sex work in the virtual world, etc. etc., glop glop, so on and so forth.

I would ask if it were possible to get virtually pregnant in SAO but it's been 2 years and presumably plenty of other people have already tested it and there aren't any virtual infants. I guess that's one advantage SAO has over the real world, you can glop all you want without any protection and you are 100% guaranteed not to get pregnant!

Spoiler for Something from the novel which was left out ot this episode:
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Old 2012-09-11, 04:01   Link #445
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I didn't originally want to touch this topic, but... curiousity got to me.

Would sex crimes exist with this feature? I'm guessing no, since it probably requires both party members to accept before proceeding. However, as proven by Kirito on Asuna in episode 8, boob touching sexual harrassment is still possible.

I guess since this story is PG-13, these topics are probably left ignored in the novels.
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Old 2012-09-11, 05:41   Link #446
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I didn't originally want to touch this topic, but... curiousity got to me.

Would sex crimes exist with this feature? I'm guessing no, since it probably requires both party members to accept before proceeding. However, as proven by Kirito on Asuna in episode 8, boob touching sexual harrassment is still possible.

I guess since this story is PG-13, these topics are probably left ignored in the novels.
Spoiler for answer in book:
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Old 2012-09-11, 05:46   Link #447
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Wowowowow getting married already? The show's moving surprisingly fast eh?
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Old 2012-09-11, 06:22   Link #448
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The scene appeared to Kirito not being able to move for a few seconds, or his moves being delayed while hearthcliffs were a lot faster.
Might be just for the effect of a beater having lost though.
Still the scene was pretty strange...
If you consider just how lightning fast Kirito's attacks are coming in (and most of those were not Sword Skills) vs. the fact that eventually Heathcliff starts having more trouble attacking back it's likely Kirito is attacking slightly faster.

But at the speed they're moving I'd imagine Kirito was frozen for a fraction of a second. If he was hanging up there for 'a few seconds' the crowd probably would have noticed something amiss.

Since we lost all the noise and most of the BGM during that scene, I'm assuming we're dealing with compressed time.
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Old 2012-09-11, 08:10   Link #449
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I didn't originally want to touch this topic, but... curiousity got to me.

Would sex crimes exist with this feature? I'm guessing no, since it probably requires both party members to accept before proceeding. However, as proven by Kirito on Asuna in episode 8, boob touching sexual harrassment is still possible.

I guess since this story is PG-13, these topics are probably left ignored in the novels.
The novels aren't PG-13.
Spoiler for About the books, but doesn't spoil any plot or similar:
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Old 2012-09-11, 08:33   Link #450
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Setting Cradeel as Asuna bodyguard is futile, we can see here Asuna way more stronger than him, but it's fine if he feel like being bait if situation out of control .
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Old 2012-09-11, 09:25   Link #451
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I don't think it was that kind of bodyguard anyway. More like someone to keep the random scrubs from trying to pick her up all the time.
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Old 2012-09-11, 09:32   Link #452
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Since we lost all the noise and most of the BGM during that scene, I'm assuming we're dealing with compressed time.
I guess not.. its probably its how the maker's wants to see what is going on in slowmo.... We they keep it fast.. there is no way they can make us see what is happening and what they were thinking at the particular second...
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Old 2012-09-11, 09:50   Link #453
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I don't think it was that kind of bodyguard anyway. More like someone to keep the random scrubs from trying to pick her up all the time.
Case in point, Kirito holding back Klein's guild from mobbing Asuna as they fanboyed over her.
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Old 2012-09-11, 09:54   Link #454
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I don't think it was that kind of bodyguard anyway. More like someone to keep the random scrubs from trying to pick her up all the time.
It was exactly that, because you see, he is her bodyguard in the village, it's only because of her fans. Villages are 100% safe, no need for a bodyguard, unless it's for protecting agaisn't those fanboys/girls.
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Old 2012-09-11, 09:55   Link #455
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Setting Cradeel as Asuna bodyguard is futile, we can see here Asuna way more stronger than him, but it's fine if he feel like being bait if situation out of control .
Unless Cradeel paid for the position
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Old 2012-09-11, 10:01   Link #456
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I don't know how it was in the LN. Did they actually have sex there, and the anime just failed badly at reproducing it?
The manga adaptation can answer this:

Spoiler for comparison with manga:
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Old 2012-09-11, 10:22   Link #457
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He really *should* have undressed right there and went to bed with her, but he *didn't* (not interested, or perhaps he's a stuck-up prude believing in that "No sex before marriage" nonsense).
Why? Why? WHY?

There were so many other points to your post to nitpick, but this one bothers me the most.


WHY?
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Old 2012-09-11, 10:57   Link #458
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Why? Why? WHY?

There were so many other points to your post to nitpick, but this one bothers me the most.


WHY?
He's the Expert-Gamer-Solo-Player Kirito. He should know everything about the game. Even if not battle related, plus - Real men smack that hard when they get the opportunity, or they're gay. ( Also when 16 years old, in a death game, he'll surely think about sex, instead of thinking about what could he do better to become stronger, etc ) /sarcasm

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Old 2012-09-11, 11:39   Link #459
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He's the Expert-Gamer-Solo-Player Kirito. He should know everything about the game. Even if not battle related, plus - Real men smack that hard when they get the opportunity, or they're gay. ( Also when 16 years old, in a death game, he'll surely think about sex, instead of thinking about what could he do better to become stronger, etc ) /sarcasm
I believe the 'why' of the above poster was targeted at Shimapan, not Kirito. As in, why are you writing something as asinine as that?
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Old 2012-09-11, 11:40   Link #460
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^ He was being sarcastic. Note the "/sarcasm" tag at the end.
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