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Old 2012-09-11, 08:38   Link #1301
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Sure it's not that you're just honing in on that sort of gender bending?
No, I used Pixiv and other sources, and that is the definite trend. I rather have Kyouko-chan and Kirino-kun
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Old 2012-09-11, 08:43   Link #1302
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Let's rooting for an Ayase x Kyousuke ending!

That must be the solution here.
Hmmm... facing the fact that they really are siblings... Ayase could be good.,... but I feel sorry for Kyousuke's childhood friend....
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Old 2012-09-11, 19:41   Link #1303
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I dont get it. Can someone explain to me by exactly what sort of sinister, twisted means Manami, which I have always believed to be pure and innocent, used to turn Kyousuke into a shadow of his former self?
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Old 2012-09-11, 19:44   Link #1304
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It's not that twisted.

Spoiler for Method:

Here's a post which analyzes Manami more.
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Old 2012-09-11, 19:49   Link #1305
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Thanks and I just found the spoiler. WOW. I never would have believed that Manami could be capable of something like this.
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Old 2012-09-11, 20:27   Link #1306
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I'm not sure I quite understand Manami's motivation.

I understand that Kirino may have had feelings for Kyousuke, possibly incestuous feelings. It is easy to extrapolate that from all her tsundere acts and her taste in imouto eroge. However, throughout the entire course of the series I never saw any implication that Kyousuke liked or used to like Kirino in the same way.

What exactly is Manami trying to prevent?
Spoiler for their history:
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Old 2012-09-11, 20:34   Link #1307
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I'm not sure I quite understand Manami's motivation.

I understand that Kirino may have had feelings for Kyousuke, possibly incestuous feelings. It is easy to extrapolate that from all her tsundere acts and her taste in imouto eroge. However, throughout the entire course of the series I never saw any implication that Kyousuke liked or used to like Kirino in the same way.

What exactly is Manami trying to prevent?
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It is obvious that you have never read the light novels then. Kyosuke does have siscon feelings for Kirino................
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Old 2012-09-11, 21:23   Link #1308
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I'm not sure I quite understand Manami's motivation.

I understand that Kirino may have had feelings for Kyousuke, possibly incestuous feelings. It is easy to extrapolate that from all her tsundere acts and her taste in imouto eroge. However, throughout the entire course of the series I never saw any implication that Kyousuke liked or used to like Kirino in the same way.

What exactly is Manami trying to prevent?
Spoiler for their history:
Spoiler for Volume 11:
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Old 2012-09-11, 22:28   Link #1309
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Is there a summary for volumes 6 and onwards, the search tool doesn't exist for this thread, and I don't really want to spoil anything for me, like reading, what happens in volume 8 or 9, if not, can somebody tell me a link for it?
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Old 2012-09-11, 23:18   Link #1310
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Is there a summary for volumes 6 and onwards, the search tool doesn't exist for this thread, and I don't really want to spoil anything for me, like reading, what happens in volume 8 or 9, if not, can somebody tell me a link for it?
I've only found translations up to 4.3 and summaries 8+.
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Old 2012-09-11, 23:27   Link #1311
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Is there a summary for volumes 6 and onwards, the search tool doesn't exist for this thread, and I don't really want to spoil anything for me, like reading, what happens in volume 8 or 9, if not, can somebody tell me a link for it?
You can find them on seanver's blog wordpress. There is summary for vol 1- vol 8 there. The rest should be on C.E translation's website. If you still can't find them, pm me.
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Old 2012-09-11, 23:38   Link #1312
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volume 6 in russian, (fb2)
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Old 2012-09-11, 23:39   Link #1313
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You can find them on seanver's blog wordpress. There is summary for vol 1- vol 8 there. The rest should be on C.E translation's website. If you still can't find them, pm me.
I did end up finding summaries, but from a comment of the summary of volume 6, but sombody mentioned, that there are some mayor stuff missing, about the part of Kirinos rival coming to japan to beat her at a race, the part where kyousuke announces hes a siscon and the part where kirino ask him to be her boyfriend?
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Old 2012-09-12, 00:11   Link #1314
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I did end up finding summaries, but from a comment of the summary of volume 6, but sombody mentioned, that there are some mayor stuff missing, about the part of Kirinos rival coming to japan to beat her at a race, the part where kyousuke announces hes a siscon and the part where kirino ask him to be her boyfriend?
Hmm...I'm not sure about that. Guess you have to wait for BT to translate them then.
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Old 2012-09-12, 00:21   Link #1315
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After all the news of the new volume I rewatched some of the animated commentaries from the blu-rays, and some very interesting things were mentioned in two of them:
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Old 2012-09-12, 00:42   Link #1316
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I never saw Kyousuke's feelings as on the same level as Kirino's. Even when he opposed their father to get his approval on Kirino's eroge or when he was missing her as she was in America, I never really felt that was incestuous. Is it not possible for him to be a doting older brother without the intimate romance?
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Old 2012-09-12, 01:05   Link #1317
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I never saw Kyousuke's feelings as on the same level as Kirino's. Even when he opposed their father to get his approval on Kirino's eroge or when he was missing her as she was in America, I never really felt that was incestuous. Is it not possible for him to be a doting older brother without the intimate romance?
I'm not necessarily prepared to judge what's possible, but I never felt that was what they were intimating in this story based on the characterization and the way the plot was presented. The subsequent volumes of the novel add further weight to this view; there is certainly a sexual tension there that goes far beyond what you'd normally see between normal siblings. Now, whether he intends to go through with anything... who knows. If he did, there would certainly be no end to the trouble caused. But certainly Kirino is the most important woman in his life right now, and he sees her as an attractive woman as well as as his younger sister. Kirino's gotten close enough to him that she addresses him by first name, and not even "Aniki" anymore. How all this gets resolved is to be determined in the final volume, but I don't think we can really argue that "he only ever saw her as a regular little sister" in this story.
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Old 2012-09-12, 01:17   Link #1318
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I never saw Kyousuke's feelings as on the same level as Kirino's. Even when he opposed their father to get his approval on Kirino's eroge or when he was missing her as she was in America, I never really felt that was incestuous. Is it not possible for him to be a doting older brother without the intimate romance?
Nah, he got jealous when Kirino brings her fake boyfriend home . He is not just a doting older brother anymore.
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Old 2012-09-12, 01:20   Link #1319
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I wouldn't call that jealous: It's closer to the doting onii-chan than anything else. Heck, I was probably even worse when I met my otoutos' girlfriends.
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Old 2012-09-12, 04:08   Link #1320
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I never saw Kyousuke's feelings as on the same level as Kirino's. Even when he opposed their father to get his approval on Kirino's eroge or when he was missing her as she was in America, I never really felt that was incestuous. Is it not possible for him to be a doting older brother without the intimate romance?
Just like my thought. I think his feeling is only a siscon thing, not incest. And siscon doesn't have to be incest every time. It may lead to incest but is not incest. Unlike Kirino who clearly love him as a man, not her brother.
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