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Old 2012-09-15, 12:41   Link #3941
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^ Yes that was Hikari who said that.
I don't remember reading much about the plot for vol 8, so is it a side storys volume?
A "YES" or "NO" is enough, no need to tell me anymore then that.
Yes. It's mentioned in the afterword to Vol 7.
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Old 2012-09-15, 13:23   Link #3942
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By the way....
When the girls activated the [Youth]'s protection they were able to fend for themselves.
So is it valid for them to become a Campione when they kill a god while in that state or Pandora won't like it and thus not granting them the status "Campione"?...
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Old 2012-09-15, 13:26   Link #3943
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It doesnt matter. They would never be able to kill a god even with the Youth's protection

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Old 2012-09-15, 13:48   Link #3944
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It doesnt matter. They would never be able to kill a god even with the You's protection
They easily defeated a bunch of divine beast(especially Ena). So it wouldn't be surprising if they defeat a subordinate god(The same as Ama no morakumo). But I don't think they have enough fire power to defeat the rank of a true Heretic God like Verethragana especially those who has the attributes of steel.
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Old 2012-09-15, 13:53   Link #3945
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By the way....
When the girls activated the [Youth]'s protection they were able to fend for themselves.
So is it valid for them to become a Campione when they kill a god while in that state or Pandora won't like it and thus not granting them the status "Campione"?...
If I remember right, Ena was able to fight against Sun WuKong's apes, which were classified as divine messengers?It took her all she got to defeat one (or was it two?), so I doubt they'd be able to kill a god with [Youth] protection, though they may be able to stall them a bit.
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Old 2012-09-15, 13:56   Link #3946
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By the way....
When the girls activated the [Youth]'s protection they were able to fend for themselves.
So is it valid for them to become a Campione when they kill a god while in that state or Pandora won't like it and thus not granting them the status "Campione"?...
Even if they're somehow able to beat a god, I don't think Pandora would be happy with the "help" in the form of Youth Protection. In the case of Godou, yes he manipulated Meqart and he used the tablet, but everything was planned and instigated by a completely powerless Godou.

Generally speaking, humans who can become Campione have a few screws loose such as Luo Hao or Salvatore or has some highly unusual qualities-competitiveness, smarts, iron will- that defy common sense. Sure there are super talented people like Erica, but the moment they're mentally dominated by a god and realize the raw difference between a god and human, they're done for. On the other hand, people like Godou, who has no sense of the difference between a god or human, can resist to the end. That's not to say person X will then become a Campione, it's just that there's a chance (vs say someone like Erica).
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Old 2012-09-15, 15:03   Link #3947
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Even if they're somehow able to beat a god, I don't think Pandora would be happy with the "help" in the form of Youth Protection. In the case of Godou, yes he manipulated Meqart and he used the tablet, but everything was planned and instigated by a completely powerless Godou.

Generally speaking, humans who can become Campione have a few screws loose such as Luo Hao or Salvatore or has some highly unusual qualities-competitiveness, smarts, iron will- that defy common sense. Sure there are super talented people like Erica, but the moment they're mentally dominated by a god and realize the raw difference between a god and human, they're done for. On the other hand, people like Godou, who has no sense of the difference between a god or human, can resist to the end. That's not to say person X will then become a Campione, it's just that there's a chance (vs say someone like Erica).
Also, it´s mentioned in the novels that no mortal can defy a God in hopes to become a Campone, there is always an element of chance or randomsess in the conditions set by Pandora. That´s the birth of a Campione is incredibly rare, the conditions is to crazy to be completed on porpuse.
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Old 2012-09-15, 15:30   Link #3948
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Campiones are chosen from birth. They were always meant to kill gods. Erica and the rest can never kill a god no matter what. They just dont have the quality required. Odds and power-ups dont matter in a battle against gods.
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Old 2012-09-15, 15:36   Link #3949
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Campiones are chosen from birth.
Kinda agree with that in a way. I just imagine Voban having the [Youth] lol
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Old 2012-09-15, 16:09   Link #3950
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Kinda agree with that in a way. I just imagine Voban having the [Youth] lol
He'd have the version Vrethragna had: he talks and you have to listen, no matter what.
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Old 2012-09-15, 18:23   Link #3951
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Even if they're somehow able to beat a god, I don't think Pandora would be happy with the "help" in the form of Youth Protection. In the case of Godou, yes he manipulated Meqart and he used the tablet, but everything was planned and instigated by a completely powerless Godou.

Generally speaking, humans who can become Campione have a few screws loose such as Luo Hao or Salvatore or has some highly unusual qualities-competitiveness, smarts, iron will- that defy common sense. Sure there are super talented people like Erica, but the moment they're mentally dominated by a god and realize the raw difference between a god and human, they're done for. On the other hand, people like Godou, who has no sense of the difference between a god or human, can resist to the end. That's not to say person X will then become a Campione, it's just that there's a chance (vs say someone like Erica).
We called this type of people a "Fool" and only a fool will get blessing from Epimetheus and thus complete ritual into becoming campione.
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Old 2012-09-15, 20:17   Link #3952
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We called this type of people a "Fool" and only a fool will get blessing from Epimetheus and thus complete ritual into becoming campione.
To be exact, Campiones are Epimetheus' illegitimate children so essentially they are called the sons (and daughters though not mentioned by Erica in vol 3, but still) of the fool. The recipe to create Campiones came from when Pandora's box was open, the box that contain all Disasters and a shred of Hope.
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Old 2012-09-15, 21:38   Link #3953
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The reason why Campiones were called the bastards of Epimetheus was that only fools are crazy enough to challenge a god to a fight in the first place. It wasn't said anywhere that they were chosen from birth btw.
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Old 2012-09-15, 21:41   Link #3954
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The only thing that is making me question or confuse is why haven't Elpis been brought in the story line yet.
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Old 2012-09-15, 21:56   Link #3955
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The only thing that is making me question or confuse is why haven't Elpis been brought in the story line yet.
Who is Elpis?
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Old 2012-09-15, 22:03   Link #3956
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Who is Elpis?
Elpis, is the embodiment of Hope. To be exact Elpis was the only thing left in Pandora's Box when Pandora opened and closed it. She is what is called the shred of Hope in Pandora Box. Theoretically, Campiones are suppose to be the only hope for Mankind against Gods so Elpis being the Goddess of Hope or Hope itself, it seems strange for her not to appear in the story line yet.
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Old 2012-09-15, 22:14   Link #3957
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^ So there a goddess of hope in the box that Pandora close.

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Yes. It's mentioned in the afterword to Vol 7.
Thank I tend to skip reading afterword so I didn't know.
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Old 2012-09-16, 01:40   Link #3958
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... why do I see the possibility of Luo being enamored by her foster-lil bro?
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Old 2012-09-16, 01:48   Link #3959
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... why do I see the possibility of Luo being enamored by her foster-lil bro?
That possibility is very high, considering the fact that Godou is capable of capturing women of all age (Including Lucretia who's supposed to be as old as his geezer and even Mariya Hikari who's younger than his sister)
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Old 2012-09-16, 01:51   Link #3960
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well since they are sworn brothers maybe she is gonna ask for a bond that cannot be broken ... ( a baby xD )
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