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Old 2012-09-15, 15:06   Link #3461
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And that's what I consider unfair. He has no evil plans of taking over the school or god knows what else. He just beat up a few guys, he never did anything as bad as any previous antagonist (maybe except Kuguyama, cuz she was not much of an antagonist either). You're being way too harsh on him, that's what I'm trying to make you see.
In Furuichi's own thoughts as of chapter 170 "I'll start by breaking apart the weak links of the Touhoushinki. This'll be the start of Takayuki Furuichi's advance." He does plan to take over the school to achieve his ultimate goal of being popular with women maybe not as evil as some other characters but not altruistic either.

He's basically been treated like scum because he has a long history of acting like scum. He has been a coward dating back to middle school at the very least (the pool chapter the thugs indicated he has a history of hiding behind Oga). He has a long track record of making sexual comments about women and being seen in compromising situations. These are not always his fault but given what people have seen and heard directly it's reasonable to consider him a future sexual predator. Unwillingness to improve himself, Miki indicated he was smart enough to go to St. Ishiyama but he chose to go to Ishiyama, he chose not to train when En declared war and got stuck on a mountain for a week, and when all the other guys were training under Saotome he ran and tried to peek on the girls. In series it makes perfect sense to treat him horribly because everyone has seen he is a horrible person, he wasn't strong (which in the setting would have excused a lot), never made an effort to become strong and has a personality likely to disgust others.
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Old 2012-09-15, 15:10   Link #3462
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In Furuichi's own thoughts as of chapter 170 "I'll start by breaking apart the weak links of the Touhoushinki. This'll be the start of Takayuki Furuichi's advance." He does plan to take over the school to achieve his ultimate goal of being popular with women maybe not as evil as some other characters but not altruistic either.

He's basically been treated like scum because he has a long history of acting like scum. He has been a coward dating back to middle school at the very least (the pool chapter the thugs indicated he has a history of hiding behind Oga). He has a long track record of making sexual comments about women and being seen in compromising situations. These are not always his fault but given what people have seen and heard directly it's reasonable to consider him a future sexual predator. Unwillingness to improve himself, Miki indicated he was smart enough to go to St. Ishiyama but he chose to go to Ishiyama, he chose not to train when En declared war and got stuck on a mountain for a week, and when all the other guys were training under Saotome he ran and tried to peek on the girls. In series it makes perfect sense to treat him horribly because everyone has seen he is a horrible person, he wasn't strong (which in the setting would have excused a lot), never made an effort to become strong and has a personality likely to disgust others.
True, I agree on all points. When this arc first started I was on Furuichi side, but as it progress he became someone else through the use of someone else power.
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Old 2012-09-17, 03:32   Link #3463
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What are you talking about? Happosai was one of the TOP tier chars in the manga. There was very little anyone could actually do about him. It's really more like the battle dogi arc where Akane got a dogi that basically fought for her and then she used that to fight.
I said kick everyone's ass, not steal the panties off their ass.

Akane was also never entirely looked at as a comic relief, though the show as a whole had that air about it.

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Old 2012-09-17, 05:06   Link #3464
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Can we just focus on the important thing here?
Who do you want me to kill? Everyone? Everyone, right?
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Old 2012-09-17, 12:55   Link #3465
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I said kick everyone's ass, not steal the panties off their ass.

Akane was also never entirely looked at as a comic relief, though the show as a whole had that air about it.

If you think Happosai can't kick everyone's ass in a 1-1 fight, then I have no idea what manga you're reading.
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Old 2012-09-17, 14:35   Link #3466
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*snicker* Basically, it would be as if Gosukugi (?) the weird voodoo kid, getting the same strength as Happosai. Would Gosukugi start beating up other people, namely Ranma, to get to Akane - damn right he would. And everyone else who has looked down on him which has been...everyone else but Akane and most of the girls.

Does this make him evi? No...he's just doing what anyone else would do in his position.

Why is it such a big deal with Furuichi doing basically the same thing? It's not like he's glomping girls left and right (with Aoi, that was a matter out of his control...at first but hey, I'd risk a beatdown to hold onto Aoi like that... ).

I fail to see why Furuichi doing this is such a big shocker.
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Old 2012-09-17, 16:20   Link #3467
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If you think Happosai can't kick everyone's ass in a 1-1 fight, then I have no idea what manga you're reading.
He NEVER kicks their ass, he just acts the pervert and stays as comedic relief.

Him being able to kick anyone's ass is beside the point, I brought it up because what's happening here in Beelzebub would be akin to him dropping his perverted ways and ACTUALLY kicking everyone's ass and just leaving a trail of bodies the whole time.
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Old 2012-09-17, 20:10   Link #3468
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Does this make him evi? No...he's just doing what anyone else would do in his position.
Not everyone would.

And this reminds me of shows like Chronicle, where we see a normal kid get powers and abuse them.


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He NEVER kicks their ass, he just acts the pervert and stays as comedic relief.

Him being able to kick anyone's ass is beside the point, I brought it up because what's happening here in Beelzebub would be akin to him dropping his perverted ways and ACTUALLY kicking everyone's ass and just leaving a trail of bodies the whole time.
Wrong genre for that considering Ranma was pretty much pure comedy. Plus, why would he need to leave a trail of bodies? It's not like anyone can actually do ANYTHING to him
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Old 2012-09-18, 21:28   Link #3469
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Uh I wouldn't definitely shack Beelzebub and Ranma into the same genre.

Battle Comedy or whatever you want to call it.

I'm just going to stop now, you're reaching pretty hard to disprove my point.
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Old 2012-09-19, 03:54   Link #3470
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And so, Furuichi had a serious fight with Oga! It's good to have some light shed on their relationship, even if it strays from their usual character. Next chapter seems to be a flashback one...
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Old 2012-09-19, 04:12   Link #3471
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So much for Furuichi not caring about getting treated like shit huh? Wish the battle would have been a little bit longer but I guess this is the limit of Furuichi.

And damn I really want to see how powerful Behemoth is when he is serious.

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Old 2012-09-19, 04:43   Link #3472
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Holy shit, that was actually awesome.

And Furuichi's eyes. Respect. No other word suffices. I think his badass level just multiplied by a factor of 10.
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Old 2012-09-19, 04:48   Link #3473
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I can't wait for the next chapter I hope it'll be full of awesome flashback or something
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Old 2012-09-19, 05:21   Link #3474
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I can't wait for the next chapter I hope it'll be full of awesome flashback or something
Another pokopen flashback?
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Old 2012-09-19, 05:40   Link #3475
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hoooh, so we got behemoth showing off and still losing to oga~
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Old 2012-09-19, 05:46   Link #3476
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hoooh, so we got behemoth showing off and still losing to oga~
As if this was even half of his power. And it's more of a draw.
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Old 2012-09-19, 05:58   Link #3477
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Oh man ...
I have cried ...
I have really cried ...
Just a little fight, but this end ... :'(
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Old 2012-09-19, 06:09   Link #3478
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Pokopen flashback was BS. It was completely random. I really can't stop laughing at that part
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Old 2012-09-19, 06:12   Link #3479
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Old 2012-09-19, 06:17   Link #3480
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The Pokopen incident sounds real interesting, I want to know more!
Oga's pose reminds me of an old PS2 DBZ game, it's the same pose Son Gohan/Saiyaman makes if you mess up his finishing move
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