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Old 2012-09-18, 14:37   Link #4641
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well, Murrue did retire at the end of SEED too (from what was shown in Destiny), so nothing prevents her from sitting in the captains seat again
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Old 2012-09-18, 15:06   Link #4642
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I suppose but that poor lady needs a rest with Mwu since they've been denied peace until the end of Destiny.
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Old 2012-09-18, 16:09   Link #4643
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well, Murrue did retire at the end of SEED too (from what was shown in Destiny), so nothing prevents her from sitting in the captains seat again
You know... during my early entry of Destiny, I almost, almost thought she and Andy were going to hook up.

Then Mwu showed up. Its funny how he'd lose all the memories regarding the Archangel, but retain his perversion, especially concerning Murrue

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Old 2012-09-18, 22:23   Link #4644
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You know... during my early entry of Destiny, I almost, almost thought she and Andy were going to hook up.
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Same here.

Setting them up together is probably one of the obvious & coolest things this series didn't do (and reviving Mwu as Neo isn't cool at all). Both are mature people who lost their loved ones and has been (living) together since the end of SEED. It's normal if they're attracted to each other coz they share the same sympathy.
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Old 2012-09-18, 22:27   Link #4645
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Fully agree, even though Mwu's survival was a total asspull, i still think he should've survived SEED (although in a different way, lets hope the REMASTER fixes it)
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Old 2012-09-18, 22:31   Link #4646
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Her role is better served as a Captain/supporter since it's what she does better than any of the other cast members. Since Murrue is retired at the end of Destiny with Mwu it kinda leaves only Lacus left to be the Captain of a ship for the team unless they want to introduce a bunch of new characters on top of the new ones that will be needed for the 3 mains to trash.
unless plan GS series the next generation of mu & murrue have own kid now 16-18yrs or likely if main 4 get own kids for future of GS era.

hey make lead being a FEMALE gundam pilot.
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Old 2012-09-18, 22:40   Link #4647
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Same here.

Setting them up together is probably one of the obvious & coolest things this series didn't do (and reviving Mwu as Neo isn't cool at all). Both are mature people who lost their loved ones and has been (living) together since the end of SEED. It's normal if they're attracted to each other coz they share the same sympathy.
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Fully agree, even though Mwu's survival was a total asspull, i still think he should've survived SEED (although in a different way, lets hope the REMASTER fixes it)
But to be fair, in the SEED specials, he was hinted to have survived. Then again, if they went with the Andy x Murrue direction, adding a revived Mwu to spice things up, then maybe... just maybe we wouldn't have to deal with so much reused scenes, eh?

IMO, I thought it was a completely missed opportunity.

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Old 2012-09-18, 23:20   Link #4648
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Fully agree, even though Mwu's survival was a total asspull, i still think he should've survived SEED (although in a different way, lets hope the REMASTER fixes it)
Mu surviving the Strike Gundam's destruction doesn't bother me as much as the shield he used to protect the Archangel putting up a decent defense against the Dominon's positron blaster.
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Old 2012-09-18, 23:37   Link #4649
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But to be fair, in the SEED specials, he was hinted to have survived. Then again, if they went with the Andy x Murrue direction, adding a revived Mwu to spice things up, then maybe... just maybe we wouldn't have to deal with so much reused scenes, eh?

IMO, I thought it was a completely missed opportunity.

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Nah, the stock footage would've still been there, all fuku and moro's fault.

Yeah, they did retcon it with the SE's, but i'd like to see it redone in a better way for the REMASTER, Think Char's Hyaku shiki at the end of Zeta.

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Mu surviving the Strike Gundam's destruction doesn't bother me as much as the shield he used to protect the Archangel putting up a decent defense against the Dominon's positron blaster.
Did we ever see the shield break against beams? honestly that wasnt my biggest problem with that part, it would be nice if they had a small scene with the engineers saying they added heavy anti-beam coating on it or something like tat.

The big problem i had with that part was the Strike melting apart, then you see it whole parts of it a few scenes later. Like the head being intact when it was melted off and such.

Oh, not to mention the entire thing blew up.

But, they did do some amazing things with the REMASTER sofar, and the actual scene itself doesnt really need to be redone, just the part about the helmet and .. well, the strike melting/blowing up.
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Old 2012-09-19, 03:55   Link #4650
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In the series airing there was a shot of Mwu's shattered helmet floating amongst the wreckage when Murrue was screaming his name pretty much confirming he was dead. Later in the opening of the finale ep Rau flies by and also sees it and looks momentarily shocked/disapointed. In the special edition, and oddly enough the US release, those shots were altered to remove the helmet. Obviously, in the Remaster they'll do the same thing.

Which is why everyone immediately knew who Neo really was the instant he appeared.

They can't really alter it anymore, because the story was the EA picked him floating in space, and turned him over to Jibril.
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Old 2012-09-19, 05:10   Link #4651
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Fully agree, even though Mwu's survival was a total asspull, i still think he should've survived SEED (although in a different way, lets hope the REMASTER fixes it)
Seems unlikely since that would kill a SEED Destiny Remaster considering what Mwu does in Destiny. At most we can hope for them showing us how Mwu survives and is retrieved by the Feds for brainwashing as Murrue thinks he's dead.
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Old 2012-09-19, 05:18   Link #4652
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In the series airing there was a shot of Mwu's shattered helmet floating amongst the wreckage when Murrue was screaming his name pretty much confirming he was dead. Later in the opening of the finale ep Rau flies by and also sees it and looks momentarily shocked/disapointed. In the special edition, and oddly enough the US release, those shots were altered to remove the helmet. Obviously, in the Remaster they'll do the same thing.

They can't really alter it anymore, because the story was the EA picked him floating in space, and turned him over to Jibril.
Most of us already know that, Aquaman .

What we hope from the Remaster is that at least it changes how Mu dies AKA change that melting-and-blown-up-Strike scene. Unlike Andrews LaGOWE where we only saw the explosion from afar and it happened on earth, we clearly saw Strike slowly melting and blown up into smithereens in space where survival is 100-times more difficult than on earth. The Strike melting and blowing up alone is a more than enough confirmation that no human being can ever survive that. Thus, we dont even need a broken helmet to confirm that Mus (supposed to be) very much dead.

Once again, we want at least that Strike scene to be changed by the Remaster to make Mus survival more believable.
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Old 2012-09-19, 08:27   Link #4653
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In the series airing there was a shot of Mwu's shattered helmet floating amongst the wreckage when Murrue was screaming his name pretty much confirming he was dead. Later in the opening of the finale ep Rau flies by and also sees it and looks momentarily shocked/disapointed. In the special edition, and oddly enough the US release, those shots were altered to remove the helmet. Obviously, in the Remaster they'll do the same thing.
Mu's helmet still appears on the US DVD release. I've rewatched my copy (it's the Anime Legends edition).

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Which is why everyone immediately knew who Neo really was the instant he appeared.

They can't really alter it anymore, because the story was the EA picked him floating in space, and turned him over to Jibril.
Or we can fall back on "a wizard Lacus Dust did it".
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Old 2012-09-19, 09:10   Link #4654
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Huh. I could have sworn there was no helmet in the CN tv version.
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Old 2012-09-19, 12:04   Link #4655
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I was rewatching Mu's death again to refresh my memory, but then I get sidetracked with Flay's death. If she had to die, they certainly picked a great way to do it. And I just love Flay's parting words to Kira while Kira's grief turns to determination. I can't wait to see it (or perhaps a variation of it) in the remaster.
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Old 2012-09-19, 12:07   Link #4656
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And then Fukuda tried to invalidate the whole thing by saying "He didn't actually see/hear her". (╯□)╯︵ ┻━┻
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And then Fukuda tried to invalidate the whole thing by saying "He didn't actually see/hear her". (╯□)╯︵ ┻━┻
Actually, I think that works for the best. I know they've been hinting at newtype-ish sense for Kira, but that's still not UC newtypes. Having Flay's ghost actually be there is just jarring.

But, as a character-driven scene, it works perfectly for Flay to apologize to Kira in front of the fans. (Unfortunately, haters will still hate on her.) And of course, not being able to clear things up in person only makes Kira's grief that much better (or worse).
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Old 2012-09-19, 12:19   Link #4658
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Actually, I think that works for the best. I know they've been hinting at newtype-ish sense for Kira, but that's still not UC newtypes. Having Flay's ghost actually be there is just jarring.
You know, sometimes I wonder about that. Kira can already sense the presence of another, and he can communicate with spirits (Fllay, as we mentioned). The only thing lacking from CE may just be psychoframes...

Ok, the only thing Kira has yet to do is to actually communicate via newtype powers and actually sense intent, but what the heck, they are clearly playing around with the idea.

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But, as a character-driven scene, it works perfectly for Flay to apologize to Kira in front of the fans. (Unfortunately, haters will still hate on her.)
You know, on a more positive observation of that particular trait, Fllay succeeded overwhelmingly as character.

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Old 2012-09-19, 12:21   Link #4659
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they are clearly playing around with the idea.
It doesn't bode well for the idea when the next person they used it on is a confirmed hallucinating non-Flaga.
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You know, on a more positive observation of that particular trait, Fllay succeeded overwhelmingly as character.
I can agree with that.
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Huh. I could have sworn there was no helmet in the CN tv version.
The Toonami version was edited for TV (lol disco guns):


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