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Old 2012-09-20, 12:12   Link #23821
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grow your own potatoes
Some may even adopt the policy of "Kill others for their potatoes" if the prices keep rising.

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Old 2012-09-20, 12:17   Link #23822
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Some may even adopt the policy of "Kill others for their potatoes" if the prices keep rising.

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i just need to get that plan form Vexx for a Potato launcher
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Old 2012-09-20, 13:58   Link #23823
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grow your own potatoes
I remember a gardener once told me that growing your own food crop over at where I live can be illegal. Not sure how the law can be implemented though.
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Old 2012-09-20, 14:56   Link #23824
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Income Data Shows Widening Gap Between New York City’s Richest and Poorest

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The rich got richer and the poor got poorer in New York City last year as the poverty rate reached its highest point in more than a decade, and the income gap in Manhattan, already wider than almost anywhere else in the country, rivaled disparities in sub-Saharan Africa.

While the national recession officially ended in 2009 and Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg has repeatedly proclaimed the city’s robust recovery, the census figures released on Thursday painted a decidedly sober view of how New Yorkers are faring.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/20/ny...hows.html?_r=1
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Old 2012-09-20, 14:58   Link #23825
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I remember a gardener once told me that growing your own food crop over at where I live can be illegal. Not sure how the law can be implemented though.
you can't even grow a fruit tree and claim it is for decorations?

forgot being afraid of china swallowing your country, the corporations already bought it.
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Old 2012-09-20, 15:37   Link #23826
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Same happened across all of Canada.

The 2007 vs 2011 census data shows the top 1% cut-off has increased from 181,000 to 230,000. The average income in the top 1% is now 475,000. There are only 275,000 people in this group. The average income across all Canadians is 36,000 and has stayed relatively flat.
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Old 2012-09-20, 16:49   Link #23827
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you can't even grow a fruit tree and claim it is for decorations?

forgot being afraid of china swallowing your country, the corporations already bought it.
It is basically unwarranted panic over plants spreading diseases to humans.
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Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.
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Old 2012-09-20, 16:50   Link #23828
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Share of income earned by the top 10% of US Households: 1917-2008



Source: Emmanuel Saez, Department of Economics, University of California, Berkeley


We have returned to levels of inequaity unseen since before the Great Depression. We all know how that turned out. It wasn't pretty.

I had the good fortune to grow up during that period between 1950 and 1980 when most Americans participated in the massive expansion of our economy. Marginal income tax rates approached 90% for the top earners even under the Republican Administration of Dwight Eisenhower, yet the economy grew rapidly, and incomes rose across the board. Since Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980 a larger and larger share of income growth accrued to the people at the top of the pyramid. Top tax rates were cut repeatedly under Republican Adminstrations, and the primary source of profits in the American economy has shifted to the financial sector away from manufacturing and non-financial services. When economies are dominated by finance, the wealthy, who have much more to invest, will obviously benefit the most.

The poorest Americans, those in the bottom fifth of earners, only saw their incomes grow by a little over one percent (in real terms) between 1980 and 2011. For people in the middle fifth, average incomes grew about 11% over those same three decades. The Census Bureau doesn't report an average for people in the top-fifth, just the boundary that distinguishes the fourth and fifth quintiles. For the least well-off people in the top-fifth of earners, their comparable growth rate was 41%.

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/incom...H01AR_2011.xls
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Old 2012-09-20, 16:53   Link #23829
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It is basically unwarranted panic over plants spreading diseases to humans.
... Can't they at least say fear of plants cultivated by "amateurs" spreading diseases and parasites to commercial fields?
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Old 2012-09-20, 16:56   Link #23830
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... Can't they at least say fear of plants cultivated by "amateurs" spreading diseases and parasites to commercial fields?
I double checked, just knocked off and ask a semi-retiree.

Apparently we ARE allowed, but if the authorities come and check and find "standards not satisfactory and posing harm to neighbours and environment" we can get fined.

Time to see if potato actually grows in our climate.
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Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.
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Old 2012-09-20, 16:57   Link #23831
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The rich got richer and the poor got poorer

Markovnikov totally predicted all of this. Who needs economists when you have scientists?
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Old 2012-09-20, 16:59   Link #23832
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Markovnikov totally predicted all of this. Who needs economists when you have scientists?
What has an organic chemist have to do with all these?
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Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.
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Old 2012-09-20, 17:00   Link #23833
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Special Report: How Romney energy czar fuels business with politics
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88J12L20120920

Iran attacked at U.N. Security Council over Syria aid
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88J1CU20120920
That was rather expected. Will it be used for a reason for others sanctions aginst Iran ?
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Old 2012-09-20, 17:01   Link #23834
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I double checked, just knocked off and ask a semi-retiree.

Apparently we ARE allowed, but if the authorities come and check and find "standards not satisfactory and posing harm to neighbours and environment" we can get fined.

Time to see if potato actually grows in our climate.
such a vague law,
so easy to fine somebody

your government has already sold out. they just haven't told you guys yet.
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Old 2012-09-20, 17:07   Link #23835
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such a vague law,
so easy to fine somebody

your government has already sold out. they just haven't told you guys yet.
Tell me something I don't know. Living in a highly consumerist society means they do it for the sake of profits GDP growth.

Quite a number of our laws are quite vague anyway, including the tax-free on capital gains on profits on investment......
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Old 2012-09-20, 17:24   Link #23836
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What has an organic chemist have to do with all these?
His rule pretty much explains life, the universe, and everything.
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Old 2012-09-20, 18:06   Link #23837
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His rule pretty much explains life, the universe, and everything.
I guess it also has to do with the complex scenario of motivation. Sometimes people need a push, shove or kick to do something good.

With regards to the need of economists when we have scientists, it is about something called "job creation" - we needed people to sit around and create theories about markets utterly disregarding human psychology and basing it entirely on generic herd mentality scenarios so some people actually have something to do in life.
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When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus.
Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.
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Old 2012-09-20, 18:35   Link #23838
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It is basically unwarranted panic over plants spreading diseases to humans.
You sure it's not because of pollution ?
Lead (and other chemicals) pollution is pretty common and if there was a factory in your area, there is your answer.

Western countries have laws forcing companies that move out to "clean" the area, but it's not done perfectly all the time (when companies go bankrupt for exemple) and it's sometimes not done AT ALL elsewhere in the world.
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Old 2012-09-20, 19:06   Link #23839
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With regards to the need of economists when we have scientists, it is about something called "job creation" - we needed people to sit around and create theories about markets utterly disregarding human psychology and basing it entirely on generic herd mentality scenarios so some people actually have something to do in life.
Yes, humans have an ingenious knack for creating things that they really don't need. The only thing they're better at is convincing people who really should know better that they do in fact need them after all... for a price of course.
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Old 2012-09-20, 23:33   Link #23840
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I double checked, just knocked off and ask a semi-retiree.

Apparently we ARE allowed, but if the authorities come and check and find "standards not satisfactory and posing harm to neighbours and environment" we can get fined.

Time to see if potato actually grows in our climate.
I shall complain that your foul smelling plant is harming my nose :P



Potato can grow here BTW...seen people doing it in their backyards before
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