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Old 2012-09-23, 03:47   Link #181
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I have this image of a huge whiteboard in your garage filled with timelines, notes, etc
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Old 2012-09-23, 12:06   Link #182
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Naw, just several typed pages here and there. Some on the Internet which has survived (navalism.org), and a memory for useless material.
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Old 2012-09-23, 15:28   Link #183
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All I know is that a lot of people are iffy about the whole 48fps thing. If it ends up looking like a cheesy soap opera...ehh >_> I'll just watch it in standard movie format please.
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Old 2012-09-23, 16:00   Link #184
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All I know is that a lot of people are iffy about the whole 48fps thing. If it ends up looking like a cheesy soap opera...ehh >_> I'll just watch it in standard movie format please.
I am sure they can add in imperfections for your benefit. If you want you can probably watch it in black and white, no sound, and with subtitles on. Now THAT's an authentic movie experience.

Seriously, isn't the point of watching a movie being that you WATCH it?

I mean, I barely watch TV, I watch everything online with the highest possible resolution. I would never imagine watching anything with a fog filter intentionally.
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Old 2012-09-23, 16:16   Link #185
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I am sure they can add in imperfections for your benefit. If you want you can probably watch it in black and white, no sound, and with subtitles on. Now THAT's an authentic movie experience.

Seriously, isn't the point of watching a movie being that you WATCH it?

I mean, I barely watch TV, I watch everything online with the highest possible resolution. I would never imagine watching anything with a fog filter intentionally.
I didn't mean to come off as a snob or something. I do mean to watch it as I was very excited once the first trailer came out. If they intended to make it look like a soap opera, the fine. But this film is sort of like a guinea pig with the whole 48fps deal. I guess I'm just a little unsure about the look since I've only heard about it from word-of-mouth from co-workers. As far as the content of the movie itself, I've no doubt that I'll be wowed.
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Old 2012-09-23, 16:19   Link #186
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It depends.. sometimes the fog filter creates an artistic or emotional effect that ultra-sharpness simply can't. Sometimes black and white *is* the best way (Kansas in Wizard of Oz).

Personally, I get annoyed at the "we're having a huge battle but we're going to stand too close so its all just confusing and defocus the camera slightly". LOTR did this occasionally so it wasn't so bad but some movies used it all the time to the point I think it just substituted for good stunt work.
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Old 2012-09-23, 17:00   Link #187
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48fps and 3D (though it was filmed at 48fps in 3D as oppose to altered to be 3D).
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Old 2012-09-23, 17:15   Link #188
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I didn't mean to come off as a snob or something. I do mean to watch it as I was very excited once the first trailer came out. If they intended to make it look like a soap opera, the fine. But this film is sort of like a guinea pig with the whole 48fps deal. I guess I'm just a little unsure about the look since I've only heard about it from word-of-mouth from co-workers. As far as the content of the movie itself, I've no doubt that I'll be wowed.
I am not trying to offend you, mind.

I just don't understand. The complaint is that TV technology has surpassed movies, and that's why mentally some people associate inferior frame rate as movies and higher frame rates as tv shows.

But as someone who stares at a monitor for fun, I don't see the argument. What's the point of the HD Blu Ray and the crazy prices we pay for them, if we intentionally nerf the video quality?

This is purely psychological.

Guess I get easily excited when something that seemed illegal pop up at me. Sorry for the outburst.
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Old 2012-09-23, 17:18   Link #189
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I'm not sure what the phrase "look like a soap opera" is suppose to mean.
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Old 2012-09-23, 17:25   Link #190
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I'm not sure what the phrase "look like a soap opera" is suppose to mean.
TV movies and TV dramas are made at a higher frame rate than movies because filming equipment stagnated. Some people psychologically then associate superior video quality to TV shows, and thus decided that higher video quality is a sign of an inferior product. People are insane.
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Old 2012-09-24, 11:27   Link #191
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The best of both worlds is 70mm of course, but due to cost and the sparsity of theatres that can show it 70mm is almost never used these days. "The Master" was shot in 70, and supposedly looks unbelievably great.
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Old 2012-09-24, 13:25   Link #192
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This is purely psychological.

Of course it is,old habbits die hard


The limitation has pretty much defined the medium until now,it's similar to how if an anime came out with full 24fps animation (instead of something like 12) then you'd have people saying it doesn't look like anime.
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Old 2012-09-24, 13:35   Link #193
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Well they don't use film anymore. They are digital filming at 5k resolution, at 48 fps, with 3D cameras.
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Old 2012-11-27, 06:03   Link #194
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Is there any scrap of New Zealand left not plastered with Hobbit advertising?

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Old 2012-11-27, 06:59   Link #195
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Of course it is,old hobbits die hard ...
FIFY

I just knoowww this is what you were actually thinking.

In other news I was quite delighted to see that someone I assume to be Radagast the Brown will be showing up in the Hobbit trilogy. Good call imo....
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Old 2012-11-27, 11:31   Link #196
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Single book childrens novel -> 3 movies



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Old 2012-11-27, 11:58   Link #197
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I know what you mean.

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Old 2012-11-27, 12:09   Link #198
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Single book childrens novel -> 3 movies



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Actually, I have yet to see any novel being incapable of fitting multiple films. Most film adaptations of books are condensed and stripped to bare bones.

For example, TLotR Trilogy really could be 4 films, or even five, if you put all the existing extended scenes into account. Nevermind the fact that the final battle in Hobbiton was never actually filmed.

I guess my point is there had never been a movie adaptation of a book that was too long.
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Old 2012-11-27, 12:25   Link #199
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If I don't miss my guess, we will have:

Film One: Shire to Mirkwood Forest

Film Two: Dale to the Lonely Mountain

Film Three: Battle of the Five Armies, back to the Shire and some of what happened to lead up to the Lord of the Rings.


They are adapting more than just one novel. They are also adapting materials of the surrounding events of that novel that are only mentioned in passing. Details of what Gandalf was doing for most of the novel are from other sources, and would be very entertaining to watch. In the Hobbit, Gandalf mostly just evades questions about what he was doing, or sums them up quickly.

Radagast the Brown for example was from the Fellowship of the Ring, but only there to give Gandalf a message. There is more stuff on him, but it is from other source than the Hobbit. The whole story about what the White Council did during the events of the Hobbit and the Necromancer, were barely covered in the Hobbit, but have major importance to the setup for Lord of the Rings.
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Old 2012-11-27, 23:24   Link #200
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There really going to milk this I wounder if there going to do the extended edition for all 3 films
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