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Old 2012-09-20, 21:45   Link #1381
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Has anyone here known about the reactions of the Japanese people about Manami's actions?
Was it like Volume 8's fiery boycotts of Kuroneko?
Well, do always take what you read (particularly about things like "fiery boycotts") with a grain of salt. You have to understand a bit of 2ch culture to know just how much is serious and how much is just for show (which is most of it).

But yeah, I think the general reaction has been to see Manami as an antagonist, which is certainly the way she was cast in the narrative even though her actions aren't particularly evil or necessarily out-and-out wrong (expect that they drove the two main characters of our series apart). Of course, we will see how everything resolves in the final volume; I think most of the reaction is the same as here: trying to guess at how things will end.
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Old 2012-09-21, 19:22   Link #1382
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I think Vol.11 is a great success. I love the Manami twist, although many anticipated her "dark side", no one would have guessed what actually happened... and it still is a perfectly reasonable story. Unfortunately, I can't consider Manami a possible love interest anymore... it doesn't matter if she had good or bad intentions in the first place, she really did something underhanded there and pretty much assisted in traumatizing him. But that's just my subjective point of view. If he'd end up with her in Vol.12, it would leave me with a pretty bad aftertaste... after all the things she said (for example "disgusting") to Kirino, it feels like he would end up betraying his sister for good.

But that's just my 5 cents, I just can't imagine having a manipulative person like she is as my girlfriend...

With that said, I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallyy root for Ayase, although I'm not really confident in her ending up as his girlfriend. He should just write several Vol.12's so everyone gets his/her happy ending . (It's far too cheap, I know) Ayase is just great. She has "jackpot" written all over her pretty face.
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Old 2012-09-21, 22:23   Link #1383
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But that's just my 5 cents, I just can't imagine having a manipulative person like [Manami] is as my girlfriend...

With that said, I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallyy root for Ayase, although I'm not really confident in her ending up as his girlfriend.
Somehow, the juxtaposition of these two comments struck me as funny. Manipulative = bad; possibly yandere = OK!

Seriously, though... this is obviously just my own view, but it's hard for me to see Ayase as anything more than a crush for Kyousuke in this story. I'm sure that her confession was a major confidence booster for him and totally flattering, but somehow I just have a hard time imagining him really choosing her as his sort of "true love". That being said, I can see Ayase as the sort of person who might try to inject herself in the middle of things if Kyousuke were to pick one of the other likely candidates. I mean, just because Kyousuke confesses to someone doesn't mean the other girls are just going to accept his decision without questioning it.

From an overall story perspective, as Kyousuke reconciles with Kirino, I actually see Ruri as a structurally sound choice. He went out with her before, and she broke up with him partly as a way to help bring the siblings closer. Him confessing to her this time would be a nice way of bringing symmetry to the plot, and she has already basically accepted the situation with Kirino as well.

And then there's Kirino. If you want my honest prediction, I think Kirino is going to be the one he "confesses" to (first), but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll end up as a romantic couple. I think the has to confess that he is indeed in love with her (and her with him) and then they can decide how to move on from there. This is a way of finally bringing the whole stand-off to a close and resolving all the many hints left so far. But like I said... I'm not so convinced yet about where they go from there. He could "confess" to her, but also confess that he's in love with someone else (like Ruri for example).

The one thing we know for sure is that this three-volume arc, and the story on the whole, depend on resolving the issue between Kirino and Kyousuke, so whatever happens Kirino will be at the center of the plot in Volume 12, no matter the final romantic outcome. This is why I think it makes sense to have a more direct connection to that plot, whether or not Kyousuke would try to pursue any romantic path with her.

In the end, only time will tell...
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Old 2012-09-21, 22:57   Link #1384
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Somehow, the juxtaposition of these two comments struck me as funny. Manipulative = bad; possibly yandere = OK!
Well, as I understand it with a yandere the most she'd do is give you a gruesome death, and chances are that will be swift. An manipulative girl could get you into so much trouble it'll take the rest of your life to fix it

I don't have any idea how this might turn out, but what I'd like to see is:
Spoiler for personal preference:
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Old 2012-09-22, 00:53   Link #1385
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Somehow, the juxtaposition of these two comments struck me as funny. Manipulative = bad; possibly yandere = OK!

Seriously, though... this is obviously just my own view, but it's hard for me to see Ayase as anything more than a crush for Kyousuke in this story. I'm sure that her confession was a major confidence booster for him and totally flattering, but somehow I just have a hard time imagining him really choosing her as his sort of "true love". That being said, I can see Ayase as the sort of person who might try to inject herself in the middle of things if Kyousuke were to pick one of the other likely candidates. I mean, just because Kyousuke confesses to someone doesn't mean the other girls are just going to accept his decision without questioning it.

From an overall story perspective, as Kyousuke reconciles with Kirino, I actually see Ruri as a structurally sound choice. He went out with her before, and she broke up with him partly as a way to help bring the siblings closer. Him confessing to her this time would be a nice way of bringing symmetry to the plot, and she has already basically accepted the situation with Kirino as well.

And then there's Kirino. If you want my honest prediction, I think Kirino is going to be the one he "confesses" to (first), but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll end up as a romantic couple. I think the has to confess that he is indeed in love with her (and her with him) and then they can decide how to move on from there. This is a way of finally bringing the whole stand-off to a close and resolving all the many hints left so far. But like I said... I'm not so convinced yet about where they go from there. He could "confess" to her, but also confess that he's in love with someone else (like Ruri for example).

The one thing we know for sure is that this three-volume arc, and the story on the whole, depend on resolving the issue between Kirino and Kyousuke, so whatever happens Kirino will be at the center of the plot in Volume 12, no matter the final romantic outcome. This is why I think it makes sense to have a more direct connection to that plot, whether or not Kyousuke would try to pursue any romantic path with her.

In the end, only time will tell...
Personally, I think that's the "most likely ending" that follows all the story line we've gotten so far. Of course, there's no telling, given the author's propensity for gotchas and misleads.

My *guess* is a resolution of the siblings and a return to Ruri. We'll see.
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Old 2012-09-22, 01:04   Link #1386
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A more crack ending would be for Ayase to actually get attracted to Ruri.
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Old 2012-09-22, 01:33   Link #1387
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A more crack ending would be for Ayase to actually get attracted to Ruri.
I can't imagine that Ayase agree to share with anyone (include Kirino) . So, I agree with relentlessflame's theory about the come back of Kuroneko.
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Old 2012-09-22, 04:54   Link #1388
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SO does anyone know what happened to Ayase and Kyousuke?
Like.. after Ayase confessed to him, what happened?

And I hope last volume has over 800 pages xD
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Old 2012-09-22, 06:50   Link #1389
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Sorry if this has been already asked, but I don't have time to search through the thread, but is there already a summary for volume 11, or maybe a half-done summary somewhere on the web?
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Old 2012-09-22, 06:58   Link #1390
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Read the last five pages.
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Old 2012-09-23, 16:01   Link #1391
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Hey guys,

Some nice soul at http://oreimotranslations.weebly.com/index.html is translating volumes 6+
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Old 2012-09-24, 08:50   Link #1392
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Hey guys,

Some nice soul at http://oreimotranslations.weebly.com/index.html is translating volumes 6+
Heh, from Korean to English... that's nice, but how did the translator with those Japanese terms and the speech of each character?

Saori with that samurai-like speech, and Kuroneko being all chūnibyō, etc.
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Old 2012-09-24, 20:59   Link #1393
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Decided to track down where some people were visiting my website from, and I found myself on this website, heh.

Yes, I'm the translator, and after looking at that question, I couldn't help but register. I've also gotten some information on vol 11 here, so I thought why not.

Anyway, yes some language is kind of vague, and I find difficulty translating some of them (It's when I wish I had the actual Japanese copies, because I can read some minimal Japanese.) But I just try my best to do what I can, and I frequently refer to NanoDesu's translations as a guide.

I think Saori ends her sentences with a "-gozaru" or something if I remember correctly, but of course that would look dumb in English, so I decided not to use it. I didn't think it would be that important either, so.

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Old 2012-09-24, 22:13   Link #1394
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Due to the writing format of LNs I think the varied speech styles of characters is to help the reader know who is talking as much as anything. Even without though enough can be inferred that it shouldn't matter.
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Old 2012-09-24, 22:18   Link #1395
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True say.

Came back to ask a question: What did Kyousuke do in the past that made Kirino think he's a "super-brother"? What was he like before he became "normal"?

I might've missed some information from the past few pages, but I would appreciate it if someone can help me out again. Thanks!
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Old 2012-09-24, 22:22   Link #1396
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그냥 간단하게 말하면, 엄친아였음. 반장, 공부짱, 운동짱, 등등.

Basically, he was "the son of mother's friend". Class president, great student, good at athletics, etc.
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Old 2012-09-24, 22:24   Link #1397
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Thanks a lot!

But whoa, are Korean translations out for volume 11 already? If so, I would appreciate it if you could tell me where you got it from.
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Old 2012-09-24, 22:25   Link #1398
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Nah, I just read parts of the Japanese original that my brothers sent me.
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Old 2012-09-24, 22:26   Link #1399
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Actually, I think that's just Sumeragi and her mad linguistic skills at work.
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Oh haha, well darn.
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