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Old 2012-09-24, 06:26   Link #241
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Exactly that. But then again, the BETA are effectively miners. Most space-faring races will have an easy time blasting them from orbit.

What we should be considering a proper match is perhaps a security/invasion strain of fleet ?
Maybe Scrin from Command & Conquer:Tiberium Wars?

They are miners too,at least what from we can see now.
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Old 2012-09-24, 10:32   Link #242
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The Scrin military forces we saw were just the Scrin's version of a backwater low grade PMC.
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Old 2012-09-24, 10:41   Link #243
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Mind you, that's according to Peptuck, who gave them major boosts for Renegade. I wouldn't totally consider that to be true... though it's probably likely.
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Old 2012-09-24, 12:16   Link #244
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True that.
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Old 2012-09-24, 19:19   Link #245
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Maybe Scrin from Command & Conquer:Tiberium Wars?

They are miners too,at least what from we can see now.
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The Scrin military forces we saw were just the Scrin's version of a backwater low grade PMC.
This was my impression of both the Scrin and the BETA. But later, the Scrin got more kick to come to Earth, and at least had warships, carriers and little flying objects as part of their standard force.

That's why I feel that the BETA is oddly lacking. The lack of aircraft being one, amongst other things that I can't quite comment on until I finish the game.

@Goose: I was thinking that as figurative speech. I doubt the Hive has any PMCs of any kind, but perhaps the Hive found the tiberium expense of sending a larger/proper invasion force wanting for the amount of gain.

Of course, to fully substantiate my theory I'd need to play the monstrosity of C&C5... and I really doubt it be worth my time, considering how butchered the story was by then.
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Old 2012-09-24, 20:14   Link #246
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@Goose: I was thinking that as figurative speech. I doubt the Hive has any PMCs of any kind, but perhaps the Hive found the tiberium expense of sending a larger/proper invasion force wanting for the amount of gain.

Of course, to fully substantiate my theory I'd need to play the monstrosity of C&C5... and I really doubt it be worth my time, considering how butchered the story was by then.
Kha, what JohnxCortana117 and I were talking about was how the Scrin were portrayed in Renegade, Peptuck's Tiberium Wars/Mass Effect Crossover. Peptuck gave the Scrin a significant boost, and noted that the force in the Tiberium Wars game was the equivalent of a PMC with technicals. That is precisely what we were talking about.

ALso, you wanna write about anything, play the goddamned game, FFS.
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Old 2012-09-24, 20:20   Link #247
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This was my impression of both the Scrin and the BETA. But later, the Scrin got more kick to come to Earth, and at least had warships, carriers and little flying objects as part of their standard force.

That's why I feel that the BETA is oddly lacking. The lack of aircraft being one, amongst other things that I can't quite comment on until I finish the game.

@Goose: I was thinking that as figurative speech. I doubt the Hive has any PMCs of any kind, but perhaps the Hive found the tiberium expense of sending a larger/proper invasion force wanting for the amount of gain.

Of course, to fully substantiate my theory I'd need to play the monstrosity of C&C5... and I really doubt it be worth my time, considering how butchered the story was by then.
BETA are MINING machines, they have no reason to think "hey let's mine stuff from the skies!!"
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Old 2012-09-24, 23:27   Link #248
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Also with the Laser-Class, they basically own the skies. No need to waste resources on something that could be spent on the other BETA classes.
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Old 2012-09-25, 00:15   Link #249
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@Goose: ...no wonder. I thot you guys were talking about a character from the C&C Renegade game, which I thot I was sure had not much Scrin, and no one called Peptuck.

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ALso, you wanna write about anything, play the goddamned game, FFS.
MLA applies, but I really doubt C&C5 is worth writing about...

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BETA are MINING machines, they have no reason to think "hey let's mine stuff from the skies!!"
I know. That's what I meant by a different strain, by pitting our lovely xover ideas against a BETA hive fleet bred for all-out invasions and not rock grinding.

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Also with the Laser-Class, they basically own the skies. No need to waste resources on something that could be spent on the other BETA classes.
Except Lasers fail against every space-faring xover suggestion we've come up with. That was what led me to make my original statement. We're comparing apples and oranges when pitting space navies against what essentially is a effective stopgap against a non-space-faring piece of technology...
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Old 2012-09-25, 01:22   Link #250
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We were talking about C&C3.
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Old 2012-09-25, 01:24   Link #251
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Oh right,i almost forgot about those guys

You know,the aliens in Battle Los Angeles?

They sure can go toe to toe against BETA with that huge number,but their aircraft with top speed of mach 7 can still be shot down in one laser shot.
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Old 2012-09-25, 05:38   Link #252
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Oh yes, that would be a more even match.
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Old 2012-09-25, 05:51   Link #253
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I was here sitting here thinking, "Hey, that Gears of War stuff, where had I seen it before?"

THE BRIDGES TRAIN DOESN'T GO ALL whoo whoo, IT GOES WHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOO!!!!

*ekhm*

I'd be tempted to do something like that, but I *still* have to finish that latest Comet chapter.
In my defense, I will say it contains Walken and A-10 Thunderbolts II.

Oh, and you guys are golden. Seriously, this thread is 45% of my daily motivation to keep my fic going, so keep up the hard work.
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Old 2012-09-25, 06:07   Link #254
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It's not a Thunderbolt II. It's a Hog. ;D
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Old 2012-09-25, 10:02   Link #255
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Pretty as one too.


Seriously though, its Chapter in TSFiA looks pretty dammn awesome.


And for the Xbox achievement fad, I had those little gems sitting in my mind all day:
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Old 2012-09-25, 10:22   Link #256
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Pretty as one too.


Seriously though, its Chapter in TSFiA looks pretty dammn awesome.


And for the Xbox achievement fad, I had those little gems sitting in my mind all day:
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Woah, the author of MuvLuv: Comet. Didn't expect you to post here. Good job with Comet and I'm waiting for what happens next.

Surprised you didn't add an achievement of dating Latrova, Nastassja or any of the bridge bunnies.

Anyways, I'm not sure if this is the bet place to ask this but any tips on writing stories? I've written a few mediocre ones before but want to get better at writing for a fic and a MuvLuv Quest I'm planning in another forum.
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Old 2012-09-25, 10:57   Link #257
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Pretty as one too.


Seriously though, its Chapter in TSFiA looks pretty dammn awesome.


And for the Xbox achievement fad, I had those little gems sitting in my mind all day:
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Those are pretty damn awesome achievements.
*drools*
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Old 2012-09-25, 11:18   Link #258
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Pretty as one too.


Seriously though, its Chapter in TSFiA looks pretty dammn awesome.


And for the Xbox achievement fad, I had those little gems sitting in my mind all day:
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Screw Bratty Saviour! Yuuya's the man!

Thanks to your post, i feel rejuvenated in my MuvLuv PMC idea.

There's one important plot point i need to address in my fanfic since it may or may not introduced a certain character.

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Anyway, good luck on your fanfic Alastor Mobius Toth!
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Old 2012-09-25, 11:57   Link #259
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Ah, I resd Comet. Kept meaning to go back to it and do some full on reviews...

If you ever need a beta reader, I could help on that - Comet had a few things that made me wince - for example, when Yuuya's promoted, he lught to be a Lt. junior grade; ensign and 2nd Lt are same level... Still, it's a good effort.

Also, for that achievement, it ought to be,"Defeat your project manager in single combat."
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Old 2012-09-25, 14:52   Link #260
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Woah, the author of MuvLuv: Comet. Didn't expect you to post here. Good job with Comet and I'm waiting for what happens next.

Surprised you didn't add an achievement of dating Latrova, Nastassja or any of the bridge bunnies.

Anyways, I'm not sure if this is the bet place to ask this but any tips on writing stories? I've written a few mediocre ones before but want to get better at writing for a fic and a MuvLuv Quest I'm planning in another forum.
Well, I haven't gotten around to thinking up all the achievements yet.


Hmmm, I'm generally not good with advice, but what I used to, and still do in a way, is to read a lot of other...works. Books, plays, you name it. Like 1982, Death of a Salesman, The Witcher, Honor Harrington series, Dune etc.

Not for ripping off anything, but seeing how you can construct world, characters, different styles of writing, setting up plots etc. in various different ways. Alternatively, have English Literature course, which is about the same thing, only the teacher has you picking up stuff from book and writing 1000 word report on it.

And inspiration. Arguably, I cannot work until I get a set of events or a "picture" in my head and say "Yeah, this is awesome" and then work around it.


@Mr.Terrorist

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And Good luck on your fic too.


@Wild Goose

Ah yes, sorry about that. I'm not good with hierarchies unless I make them myself...

At any rate, I'd appreciate all help, be it proof-reading, or fixing my mutilation of U.S rank system.
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