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Old 2012-10-02, 17:03   Link #881
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I'm annoyed by this. He's the shinigami boss......thye know they cannot beat him so they have to resort to trolling him instead by sealing/stealing his power.
Can't really beat the strongest any other way. Aizen knew it.
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Old 2012-10-02, 17:12   Link #882
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why did he even need to use the twin sternritter of he could take yam's bankai anyway. no point AT ALL....
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Old 2012-10-02, 17:13   Link #883
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This chapter was like beating a video game then having the game tell you the real boss is in the harder difficulty and to try again.
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Old 2012-10-02, 17:18   Link #884
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why did he even need to use the twin sternritter of he could take yam's bankai anyway. no point AT ALL....
Well Yama did just show all (or most) of its capabilities for no damn reason.
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Old 2012-10-02, 17:27   Link #885
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And it seems that Kubo has trolled his readers yet again.

I'm past caring at this point.
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Old 2012-10-02, 18:41   Link #886
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so bach said "now aizen has an eternity to think about it" I'm guessing thats implying that he killed him. However there is now way aizen is gone. He still has to come back and counter troll bach. Thats the only thing I'm waiting for
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Old 2012-10-02, 18:49   Link #887
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Just because no one tried, it doesn't mean he can't be killed.

And of course there is a point: If he isn't with you, he may still become a potential threat in the future. Didn't they say they want to get rid of all Shinigami?
Ichigo's 'Mugetsu' state Getsuuga Tenshou wasn't trying to kill Aizen?

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So i guess we will be hearing "Just as planned" soon?
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Wrong, Getsuga Tenshou is the most ultimate bankai
=P Tensa Zangestu* is, Getsuuga Tenshou is the ultimate attack of the ultimate bankai xD

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why did he even need to use the twin sternritter of he could take yam's bankai anyway. no point AT ALL....
Yeah, seemed like just a way to avoid the usual fight where person A reveals powers, person B fights back, Person A goes all out, Person B trolls to win...but in the end it really turned like that anyways.

Anyways, no one has answered me...so I'll ask again. Someone said that we saw mention of Royd and Loyd beforehand, so...when was that? As far as I'm concerned, the fact that there are TWINS witht he same powers is an asspull to justify this one instance. To better avoid this, couldn't Kubo just think of some other jank power to give one of Kenpachi's opponents so the 'Y' would be a bit more appealing..?

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so bach said "now aizen has an eternity to think about it" I'm guessing thats implying that he killed him. However there is now way aizen is gone. He still has to come back and counter troll bach. Thats the only thing I'm waiting for
Aizen is immortal. Bach proposed setting him free and turned it down. Now Aizen will and can spend his eternal life pondering whether or not turning down Bach's offer was a mistake or not. That's what I got from it and since Aizen can't die, that's most likely what it is. I'm sure he'll be getting out somehow, or perhaps pulling a sideline role for the rest of the series (manipulating people while remaining chained up and watching the world burn)
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Old 2012-10-02, 19:11   Link #888
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why did he even need to use the twin sternritter of he could take yam's bankai anyway. no point AT ALL....
Juha Bach confirmed the purpose of using a fake when he asked Yamamoto if he had used up all his power yet. Because even if the real Juha Bach stole his bankai from the very beginning, I'm sure he knows that Yamamoto without bankai (and just shikai) would still be too risky to deal with unless he was severely weakened beforehand.

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so bach said "now aizen has an eternity to think about it" I'm guessing thats implying that he killed him.
That would be strange. Because he's already a spiritual being. So if he died, he'd cease to exist anymore. I'm not really sure how he'd be able to think about anything in that condition. lol

Anyways, the translation I read was "It's fine. We have an eternal time in front of us anyway." Granted, that's not the most accurate translation in the world I'm sure. But it almost made it sound like Bach was implying that both he and Aizen have got all the time in the world to come to an eventual agreement.
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Old 2012-10-02, 19:39   Link #889
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wow, the power levels is getting too overwhelming. When will goku come?
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Old 2012-10-02, 19:56   Link #890
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get this shit over with already...
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Old 2012-10-02, 21:01   Link #891
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Are you fcking serious -_-... After finding out that was a fake and explaining in the previous chapter about his bankai not being well known to be stolen...he goes and releases after knowing this is the real bach and showing all of his bankai abilities... the stupidity of bleach has gone to a whole new level...lmfao

I will keep reading bleach just to see how much more worse it can get before it ends.
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Old 2012-10-02, 21:33   Link #892
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If the old man is gone, all the remaining captains will lose eventually. The point is, when will Ichigo appear again? After the quincies kill everyone? Or before that? And since all the captains will have their bankai stolen sooner or later, Ichigo will have to be strong enough to defeat most of the captains' bankai. MEANING...Ichigo will have to become the strongest Shinigami. That's really really cliche.
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Old 2012-10-02, 22:23   Link #893
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And how did these human parents give birth to two stupid beings with retardedly op powers lol...
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Old 2012-10-02, 22:51   Link #894
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get this shit over with already...
My sentiments exactly. *yawn*
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Old 2012-10-02, 23:21   Link #895
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Are you fcking serious -_-... After finding out that was a fake and explaining in the previous chapter about his bankai not being well known to be stolen...he goes and releases after knowing this is the real bach and showing all of his bankai abilities... the stupidity of bleach has gone to a whole new level...lmfao

I will keep reading bleach just to see how much more worse it can get before it ends.
well to be fair, Yamamoto's explanation last chapter on why his bankai couldn't be stolen was pretty dumb. It hinted at Ichigo's bankai having more potential, sure, but it completely shunned Kyoraku's mention that Hitsugaya still had a lot of room to grow. All in all, it was a dumb explanation to begin with lol.

I still want to know how the twins weren't an asspull when to me, it clearly was.

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And how did these human parents give birth to two stupid beings with retardedly op powers lol...
How did the parents of fullbringers all survive being attacked by hollows and still manage to give birth? and said hollow powers get passed onto the fullbringers? lol, there's a lot of stuff that doesn't really add up anymore D=
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Old 2012-10-02, 23:36   Link #896
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Juha Bach confirmed the purpose of using a fake when he asked Yamamoto if he had used up all his power yet. Because even if the real Juha Bach stole his bankai from the very beginning, I'm sure he knows that Yamamoto without bankai (and just shikai) would still be too risky to deal with unless he was severely weakened beforehand.

I dont understand how Yamamoto has been weakend from releasing his bankai the first time? I mean he basically released his bankai, showed off all his moves, pawned, unreleased then plot twist! loyd or royd is dead and the real juha bach appears. Unless his bankai harms himself aswell (which it probably does) i don't see how using this doppleganger ploy had any other purpose other than to troll us.....sigh...atleast kubo is doing as kubo does. staying true to himself all the way to the end.
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Old 2012-10-02, 23:44   Link #897
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I dont understand how Yamamoto has been weakend from releasing his bankai the first time? I mean he basically released his bankai, showed off all his moves, pawned, unreleased then plot twist!
Yamamoto's strong, but not even he possess infinite amounts of energy. The part I bolded would be the most logical reason as to why he'd be weakened right now. I'm sure some of those moves had to be pretty taxing on his spiritual energy supply. Especially that south technique.
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Old 2012-10-03, 00:09   Link #898
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Maybe a tad exhausted, but that fight was really one-sided. Yamamoto shouldn't have "used up all his power", unless his bankais really that draining. One and done with it I guess, lol. Like Soi Fon.
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Old 2012-10-03, 00:51   Link #899
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It was definitely one-sided. But it was only one-sided because the old man was using the most powerful moves in his arsenal. It took everything the fake had just to defend against it all. Besides, Yamamoto did state for the record that his bankai does gradually destroy everyone in Soul Society (including himself). So I figure something exerting that much energy over that wide of area would have to be particularly draining on the wielder.

Of course, supposing Yamamoto really is nearly depleted of his energy, I admit Kubo did a terrible job of making Yamamoto look it in the end there. But it wouldn't be the first time Kubo's conveniently omitted obvious signs of fatigue at moments when it would prove beneficial for the readers. The most prominent example that comes to mind is Aizen's battle vs Isshin. We were supposed to believe Aizen when he had said that Isshin pushed him to his maximum limits despite the fact that Aizen showed almost no signs of fatigue at that moment (ex: no heavy sweating or breathing, while maintaining that smug confident look as always).
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Old 2012-10-03, 01:03   Link #900
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Wouldn't his enemies start burning due to the power of Yamamoto's bankai? Anyway, he showed off because he got emotional over the death of his soldiers...but releasing again was pretty reckless. As for why Juha Bach had to use the twins in the first place...why did Aizen put up a whole story that lasted a year when he was strong enough to do whatever he wanted to in...2 days or something?
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