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Xellos-_^ · 2012-10-05, 09:36

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Originally Posted by Thess

And Heaven's Feel. And technically UBW, since Rin learns martial arts from Kirei.

i assume he wasn't familiar with the VN.

SJCrew · 2012-10-06, 01:50

Kirei didn't really do anything in Episode 8. It was a curbstomp fight. He was stronger, faster, and had knives. Elbow, stomp, break a tree. No real technique shown. 26 is what woke me up and said, "Wow, this guy is for real." The blocking, the deflecting, the precision of his strikes, they all came together in that scene. It didn't register to me that he was a true threat on his own up until that scene showing us a summation of everything he had at his disposal. This includes the command spells nullifying the effect of Kiritsugu's bullets.

That was probably the only good fight in the series, to be honest...

MexicanAnime · 2012-12-02, 20:39

While I have not been exposed to Type Moon works before I watched this a few months ago, Fate/Zero was very enjoyable to me and it's not something you would need to watch/play Fate/Stay Night to understand.

The show is beautifully animated with it's fights and backgrounds and the characters (whether it be the masters or servants) all have unique powers to their disposal which makes things interesting; especially with some of the tactful masters.

Fights to the death was not the only interesting part of the show however as Fate/Zero has an interesting story with some well executed themes and depth with each character having their own interesting view point that it makes you think whether or not what the character did was right or not; such the point with Kiritsugi later in the story. This all makes it all better as Fate/Zero is just not some cheesy shonen fight show as it offers much more than just pretty visuals.

and now to the characters! While they may not be the nicest of people, the masters in the story are all quite entertaining for their own points (Though to be honest, I did find Kokoimi to be a bit boring). Kirei and Kiritsugi both have to be my favorite masters as Kiritsugi had a strong belief in his goal and it was great to see him go to great lengths to achieve those. Kirei starts off as more of a "puppet" than anything but quickly begins to have his own desires which made for a great turn in the story later.

The servants are all fun as well as they are each reincarnations or famous figures of the past, such as Alexander the Great who's part of the Rider Class in Fate/Zero. Not to sound repetitve, but as said, they all have their own interesting abilities and it's neat to see them bounce off of each other, whether it be servants to servants in where both of them were kings, or to master and servant, such as Rider and Waver who were my favorite partners of the two.

Now what are some of my complaints? Exposition could have been handled it better as it could be a problem at times and some of the scenes in the show felt a little too forced, especially in the latter half which could make it a little hard to take seriously.

VTHokiePride · 2013-01-12, 11:17

I just finished Fate/Zero and I thought it was a well done anime. The back story to Kiritsugu was great and I was blown away that Illya is his daughter. While there wasn't really much that could do during the finale, I enjoyed how the finale ended where Shirou says he wants to be a hero and realize Kiritsugu's dream. I doubt there would be another season added to this anime, but if there was I would definitely watch it.

chaos_alfa · 2013-01-12, 11:42

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Originally Posted by VTHokiePride

I just finished Fate/Zero and I thought it was a well done anime. The back story to Kiritsugu was great and I was blown away that Illya is his daughter. While there wasn't really much that could do during the finale, I enjoyed how the finale ended where Shirou says he wants to be a hero and realize Kiritsugu's dream. I doubt there would be another season added to this anime, but if there was I would definitely watch it.

If you liked the revelation that Illya is Kiritsugu daughter, you should try the visual novel of Fate/Stay Night. It has more stuff like that.

Edit: From another thread it seems like you already have played/read Fate/Stay Night. Than why didn't you know Illya was Kiritsugu daughter? It is revealed in the Heaven's Feel arc.

Sansker · 2013-03-16, 10:46

Oh well, I want to say something about Fate/Zero because I just need to.

I already watched Fate/Stay Night when I saw Fate/Zero and I really feel like those two series don’t really come well together. The first show is entertaining but by the first half does a mediocre job with all the elements, characters and back-story that the thing should use. The story goes in a predictable way, we all knew who was going to win the Holy Grail and when give a nice twist by the end the overall impression was good but nothing really spectacular or out of the typical shonen formula. Not to mention Shirou Emiya in that story is one of the weirdest and stupidest protagonist I have ever seen. And yes I have play the actual game, is just a little better there.

Fate/Zero on the other hand is just a lot much better. Does a good job of picture the scene of a battle royal to the death between the seven teams of Masters and Servants and while some characters did get a lot of screen time and focus over others, each one of them was made really well. Combine good characters with a clear setting that has them working towards a goal while still manage to deliver some intricate setting and rules without confusing you too much, and you have a good anime in your hands.

The story is more mature than the one in Fate/Stay Night. Characters act smart and move toward to get their goals without just sitting around and wait for the other villains to get over so they can jump in the scene. Everything here fits a good spot and while some Servants like Rider really steal the show when they are on camera almost all characters have a good presentation. Except for Assassin which I still consider the Servant that gets more the shaft in all the Fate stories I read so far. Yes even more than Lancer.

Overall Fate/Zero has been one of my favorite series of all time if then introduce some plot elements that are never explore on its “sequel” and the ending was kind of a letdown because I already knew what was going to happen. Also the fact that some Masters and Servants just die in a miserable way doesn’t help it much. But is good, well made, full of action, brains and soul that should never be ignored. I give the series a 9

cj_iwakura · 2013-03-22, 19:12

Second exposure to the Fate universe after Extra. Loved it, started out good, had me by the throat until the end, ending left me broken.

Spoiler:

Animation: 10/10, best 3d depiction of vehicles I've ever seen.
Music: 7/10, some good stuff, some decent, some forgettable, LOVE Season 1's ED. Season 2's kind of sucked in comparison.
Characters: 9/10, driving force. The only downside is well, what happens to some of them.
Story: 10/10, handled everyone equally well, no one character felt neglected, they all got equal treatment, and it was hard to say if anyone was a protagonist or antagonist, which is a trademark of great writing.

I am playing(that means not watching the anime) Fate/Stay Night the MOMENT I finish Steins;Gate. Can't wait.

View Poll Results: Fate/Zero - Total Series Rating
Perfect 10	33	35.87%
9 out of 10 : Excellent	37	40.22%
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6 out of 10 : Average	1	1.09%
5 out of 10 : Below Average	0	0%
4 out of 10 : Poor	0	0%
3 out of 10 : Bad	0	0%
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2012-10-06, 01:50	Link #22
SJCrew Anachro-Romeo Join Date: Apr 2010	Kirei didn't really do anything in Episode 8. It was a curbstomp fight. He was stronger, faster, and had knives. Elbow, stomp, break a tree. No real technique shown. 26 is what woke me up and said, "Wow, this guy is for real." The blocking, the deflecting, the precision of his strikes, they all came together in that scene. It didn't register to me that he was a true threat on his own up until that scene showing us a summation of everything he had at his disposal. This includes the command spells nullifying the effect of Kiritsugu's bullets. That was probably the only good fight in the series, to be honest... Last edited by SJCrew; 2012-10-13 at 11:56. Reason: Kiritsugu != Kirei, I always get their names mixed up somehow.

2012-12-02, 20:39	Link #23
MexicanAnime Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Houston, Texas	While I have not been exposed to Type Moon works before I watched this a few months ago, Fate/Zero was very enjoyable to me and it's not something you would need to watch/play Fate/Stay Night to understand. The show is beautifully animated with it's fights and backgrounds and the characters (whether it be the masters or servants) all have unique powers to their disposal which makes things interesting; especially with some of the tactful masters. Fights to the death was not the only interesting part of the show however as Fate/Zero has an interesting story with some well executed themes and depth with each character having their own interesting view point that it makes you think whether or not what the character did was right or not; such the point with Kiritsugi later in the story. This all makes it all better as Fate/Zero is just not some cheesy shonen fight show as it offers much more than just pretty visuals. and now to the characters! While they may not be the nicest of people, the masters in the story are all quite entertaining for their own points (Though to be honest, I did find Kokoimi to be a bit boring). Kirei and Kiritsugi both have to be my favorite masters as Kiritsugi had a strong belief in his goal and it was great to see him go to great lengths to achieve those. Kirei starts off as more of a "puppet" than anything but quickly begins to have his own desires which made for a great turn in the story later. The servants are all fun as well as they are each reincarnations or famous figures of the past, such as Alexander the Great who's part of the Rider Class in Fate/Zero. Not to sound repetitve, but as said, they all have their own interesting abilities and it's neat to see them bounce off of each other, whether it be servants to servants in where both of them were kings, or to master and servant, such as Rider and Waver who were my favorite partners of the two. Now what are some of my complaints? Exposition could have been handled it better as it could be a problem at times and some of the scenes in the show felt a little too forced, especially in the latter half which could make it a little hard to take seriously. __________________ http://www.desudesbrigade.com/forums/index.php

2013-03-16, 10:46	Link #26
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 22	Oh well, I want to say something about Fate/Zero because I just need to. I already watched Fate/Stay Night when I saw Fate/Zero and I really feel like those two series don’t really come well together. The first show is entertaining but by the first half does a mediocre job with all the elements, characters and back-story that the thing should use. The story goes in a predictable way, we all knew who was going to win the Holy Grail and when give a nice twist by the end the overall impression was good but nothing really spectacular or out of the typical shonen formula. Not to mention Shirou Emiya in that story is one of the weirdest and stupidest protagonist I have ever seen. And yes I have play the actual game, is just a little better there. Fate/Zero on the other hand is just a lot much better. Does a good job of picture the scene of a battle royal to the death between the seven teams of Masters and Servants and while some characters did get a lot of screen time and focus over others, each one of them was made really well. Combine good characters with a clear setting that has them working towards a goal while still manage to deliver some intricate setting and rules without confusing you too much, and you have a good anime in your hands. The story is more mature than the one in Fate/Stay Night. Characters act smart and move toward to get their goals without just sitting around and wait for the other villains to get over so they can jump in the scene. Everything here fits a good spot and while some Servants like Rider really steal the show when they are on camera almost all characters have a good presentation. Except for Assassin which I still consider the Servant that gets more the shaft in all the Fate stories I read so far. Yes even more than Lancer. Overall Fate/Zero has been one of my favorite series of all time if then introduce some plot elements that are never explore on its “sequel” and the ending was kind of a letdown because I already knew what was going to happen. Also the fact that some Masters and Servants just die in a miserable way doesn’t help it much. But is good, well made, full of action, brains and soul that should never be ignored. I give the series a 9 __________________

2013-03-22, 19:12	Link #27
cj_iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Coral Springs, FL	Second exposure to the Fate universe after Extra. Loved it, started out good, had me by the throat until the end, ending left me broken. Spoiler: Kariya did NOT deserve that. Animation: 10/10, best 3d depiction of vehicles I've ever seen. Music: 7/10, some good stuff, some decent, some forgettable, LOVE Season 1's ED. Season 2's kind of sucked in comparison. Characters: 9/10, driving force. The only downside is well, what happens to some of them. Story: 10/10, handled everyone equally well, no one character felt neglected, they all got equal treatment, and it was hard to say if anyone was a protagonist or antagonist, which is a trademark of great writing. I am playing(that means not watching the anime) Fate/Stay Night the MOMENT I finish Steins;Gate. Can't wait. __________________

2013-01-12, 11:17	Link #24
VTHokiePride Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Age: 18	I just finished Fate/Zero and I thought it was a well done anime. The back story to Kiritsugu was great and I was blown away that Illya is his daughter. While there wasn't really much that could do during the finale, I enjoyed how the finale ended where Shirou says he wants to be a hero and realize Kiritsugu's dream. I doubt there would be another season added to this anime, but if there was I would definitely watch it.