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View Poll Results: Little Busters - Episode 1 Rating
Perfect 10 20 14.18%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 28 19.86%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 35 24.82%
7 out of 10 : Good 32 22.70%
6 out of 10 : Average 10 7.09%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 4 2.84%
4 out of 10 : Poor 7 4.96%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.71%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 4 2.84%
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Old 2012-10-06, 23:25   Link #61
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I thought the first episode was quite decent. It wasn't awe-inspiring or anything, but still, it was great to see the Little Busters guys do their thing. I thought Masato sounded a little strange when he was talking normally, but his OMG/arguing voice was great as always.
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Old 2012-10-06, 23:32   Link #62
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I thought the first episode was quite decent. It wasn't awe-inspiring or anything, but still, it was great to see the Little Busters guys do their thing. I thought Masato sounded a little strange when he was talking normally, but his OMG/arguing voice was great as always.
Around 10:24 right? He sounds really weird there, like he has a cold .
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Old 2012-10-06, 23:34   Link #63
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To address your issue, it is tough without crashing into a rule about spoilers...

Uhh it's getting very hard to make any type of reply to address any posts with concerns about the first episode without them getting deleted or banned. I'll probably stay out of this thread, because it seems to be for anime only viewers.
Well, the thing is that you don't need to "address people's issues" using your game knowledge. New viewers are asking themselves questions about the theme, and wondering about the sense of humour, and trying to figure out how this anime will work out. But that doesn't mean that what they need is a VN reader to pop in and give them all the answers to "address their issues". If people really want to ask questions and get game-player answers, they should use the Q&A thread. In the meantime... it's okay to let people keep some unanswered questions and to just have opinions that are "wait and see".

It's not an anime-only viewers thread. But, you don't need to try to "upgrade" anime-only viewer's knowledge either. We should only talk about things shown *in* the episode, and leave the rest to be revealed in due time. Even if that means some people will be slightly confused for now. That's the sort of balance I'm trying to get at.
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Old 2012-10-06, 23:35   Link #64
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Around 10:24 right? He sounds really weird there, like he has a cold .
This. It's no biggy, just seemed a little odd :P

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It's just me, (please can somebody confirm it) or the OP has a little bit of lag, at the scenes of the heroines's presentation (the same ones of the previous PVs).

I don't know, maybe are just my codecs.
I noticed this too :/ I'm hoping it's just on my end, because it was the most off-putting thing about the OP for me. Otherwise I thought it was amazing..
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Old 2012-10-06, 23:41   Link #65
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Speaking as a VN player here, I don't think this could have been done any better. They did a very fine job at adapting here. Sure it's not remarkable visuals, but they're definitely not bad and are a cut above average (Though a bit of abuse on stills at the beginning).

And yes, as RRR pointed out Kyousuke is definitely a high selling point for this work, at least for me. Popularity that actually makes sense, not just because we're told they're popular or it's justified with things like "great grades and looks." He actually does have a personality type that naturally draws together crowds.

Funny enough, I was the only one really complaining about Riki's VA before the anime aired and for some reason it doesn't bother me in the premiere and everyone else is now complaining . Strange!

Anyways good episode and the world didn't end because JC is adapting it .

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(I am growing a bit tired these days of audiences who get all upset when they watch the first episode of something and it's like not every single one of their questions is perfectly answered and they're slightly confused... and they act like that's a problem. This is a 26-episode anime, and may even have multiple seasons. Things will make sense eventually. Relax! )
It's remarkable how impatient some viewers can be when it comes to this. I never understood the point of complaining about things that "don't make sense" when the show hasn't even been given a chance to deliver the information at the time they deemed proper. Staff could be cut some slask. Patience definitely needed.
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Old 2012-10-07, 00:00   Link #66
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It's remarkable how impatient some viewers can be when it comes to this. I never understood the point of complaining about things that "don't make sense" when the show hasn't even been given a chance to deliver the information at the time they deemed proper. Staff could be cut some slask. Patience definitely needed.
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Old 2012-10-07, 00:02   Link #67
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It's remarkable how impatient some viewers can be when it comes to this. I never understood the point of complaining about things that "don't make sense" when the show hasn't even been given a chance to deliver the information at the time they deemed proper. Staff could be cut some slask. Patience definitely needed.
The problem is, the first episode of any series should set the tone and direction of that series. It does not need to answer any of the questions, but it at least needs to convey to the viewers what it plans to do with the series.

After watching this first episode, I have no sense of what the anime is after. There are snippets that they used to go around helping people. Then there is this desire to start a baseball team for random reasons. Then there are random comedy and super battles and random funny oujou sama villain popping up beating up good girl. Right now, everything is just thrown together in a jumble with no direction or any indication of what they want to do with this series. In essence, it looks like a mess.

No, it does not need to answer everything, but a first episode should at least set a premise for the show.

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Furthermore, as far as I can tell, this is not some mystery where they need the viewers to start to speculate and figure things out. It seems like it is supposed to be straightforward, so withholding information makes it that much more confusing.
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Old 2012-10-07, 00:07   Link #68
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I think the one thing that kept throwing me off was Riki's VA. I mean I like the voice normally, but somehow I don't think its a good fit here. Maybe it is for the contrast with the other guys, but geeze it's tough hearing Hanyuu talking through a guy .

A bit of a strange first episode, but got some good laughs out of it too. I have to say it does make sense that Kyousuke can draw people to him, since he does have a magnetic personality. Besides kind of nice to have multiple solid guys in a group. Obviously from the OP the girls will start moving in, but that's actually fine since it will balance things out.
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Old 2012-10-07, 00:18   Link #69
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No, it does not need to answer everything, but a first episode should at least set a premise for the show.
For longer stories (and we know this is at least two-cour), I usually give it a few episodes to reveal its theme. But even that aside, I have no doubt that a theme will become apparent over time. I'm okay with waiting for it, but I can understand that not everyone will feel the same way.
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Old 2012-10-07, 00:20   Link #70
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Well, the first episode does have a certain haphazardness to it, but for me that's much of what made the comedy so effective.

Anime sometimes has a tendency to kind of overly reinforce its comedy moments by reeeallly dragging them out, and/or basically having characters explain the joke (which, as The Joker himself knows, ruins the joke! ).

Here the comedy is effective precisely because its fast, snappy, quick, and not totally predictable.

With this in mind, one thing I like is how Rin doesn't have some "female character shield" around her. She can get comically victimized too. And she seems like a bit of a goofball herself, really (i.e. it's not just the guys acting like goofballs). A tsundere goofball, equal parts KugRie and Yui Hirasawa, now that's something.


And anyway, I never found this episode that confusing. This popular guy who's genuinely a great guy to his friends comes home after a vain attempt to get a job, and they're naturally excited that their good buddy is back. Then you get a bunch of friends horsing around like friends of this age tend to do, and I just think that it all flows pretty well.

Now, I'm not sure if anything introduced in this episode is supposed to mean more than what I'm getting here, but even if so the anime has time to make that clear. For now, I'm satisfied just taking it as a bunch of guys (and one girl who is the sister of one of those guys) having a blast together.

And guys, there's much weirder things than a bunch of guys deciding to start up a baseball team and/or game. This sort of random activity choice is actually pretty common in real life, in my experience.
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Old 2012-10-07, 00:23   Link #71
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Yep, that are my feelings toward the show after episode one. Generic. And the bold line fits quite perfectly. I asked to be sure, because with all the hype it got I thought I was missing something, but apparently not. Anyways if I have to point something out it is the overall comedic tone that worries me, too much comedy turns down the drama that eventually will come, for me. Oh well, probably simply it's not my cup of tea.
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Anyway, I'm voting 8/10. Some of the animation (Kengo cutting at Masato's shirt in the opening fight for example) felt really jarring. Good, but not perfect. I do like that they're (so far) being faithful to the original source instead of trying to tell a new story (like Da Capo II's anime adaptation *shudder*). Looking forward to how this shapes up in the future though.

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Old 2012-10-07, 00:36   Link #72
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I have complaints (*gasp*), but I think there's no need to reiterate what others have already said.

On the bright side, it's great seeing these characters again.

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(I am growing a bit tired these days of audiences who get all upset when they watch the first episode of something and it's like not every single one of their questions is perfectly answered and they're slightly confused... and they act like that's a problem. This is a 26-episode anime, and may even have multiple seasons. Things will make sense eventually. Relax! )
I remember one thread that was on this topic. Some want instant immersion, some want enough to keep their interest until the good stuff, some watch 3 episodes regardless, some 5, and some the whole thing. People went on tirades against shows that can't keep their audience long enough (and is therefore "not a good show," regardless of later content), and still others invoke the good old "learn some patience."

This isn't directed at you, but people often apply their preference as some golden rule on "objectively" judging an anime, and eventually forget that it's just a preference. I've learned to accept that people want different things than what I want from anime.
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Old 2012-10-07, 00:40   Link #73
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Spoiler for Spoiler from TV Tropes' description of the adaptation:


Not familiar with the source material, but given the atmosphere of the first episode and (contents of spoiler), if they manage to pull of the transition credibly it will be very good. (And thinking Clannad, they will probably manage it...)
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Old 2012-10-07, 00:42   Link #74
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XD Kyousuke is as random as Haruhi.

Haruhi: Let's play baseball
Kyousuke: Let's play baseball
Akio: Let's play baseball

I guess baseball is a national sport in Japan as basketball is to the Philippines.

Anyway it seems Kyousuke is as genre savvy....

Too bad the fight was not animated.... I would have liked to see it (this coming from someone who didn't play the visual novel...)

First episode moral lesson: Eel pie has 0 defense against a 3 section staff.
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Rather enjoyed this anime's first episode!!!! "Little busters" i guess is fufilling my want for the smooth school life with some comedy in it.
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For longer stories (and we know this is at least two-cour), I usually give it a few episodes to reveal its theme. But even that aside, I have no doubt that a theme will become apparent over time. I'm okay with waiting for it, but I can understand that not everyone will feel the same way.
I usually give series about 5 episodes to get a true feel if I like it or not (sometimes, 3 is enough on the shorter series), and it will still be the same case with this series. However, I feel that, in general, most series sets the premise for that series pretty well in their first episode. Also, just because I don't think the first episode is well done does it mean that the series will end up bad. It means just that... that the first episode is not well done.

On a different note, I just finished watching Suki-tte Ii na yo, and the animation quality between that show and this is night and day. If this show had the same animation quality, it would definitely add more appeal to the show. And this show is supposed to be higher profile, too. It makes me wonder what is going on.
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On a different note, I just finished watching Suki-tte Ii na yo, and the animation quality between that show and this is night and day. If this show had the same animation quality, it would definitely add more appeal to the show. And this show is supposed to be higher profile, too. It makes me wonder what is going on.
I think it's not so much a matter of "profile". Different shows have different staff, including animation directors, episode directors, and storyboard artists who all have their own styles, fortÚs, and preferences. Plus, this is a 26-episode show, whereas Sukitte ii na yo is 13 episodes. It can also be sometimes common for shows to have higher-budget first episodes (when they have more time and money) and to collapse later on as the schedule catches up to them. I suppose a key question is how the level of quality is maintained over the course of the 26-episode run (and any more that may follow).

At the end of the day, the show won't win a prize for the most visually-striking anime of the season. But if it can maintain this level throughout the whole run and the story is well-presented, I'll probably still enjoy it.
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Old 2012-10-07, 02:11   Link #78
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What happened to front loading first episodes with budget?

Ah well...Faithful adapt, but considering just how faithful it was and the quality of the "animation" (Mmm stills~) I mostly came away from the first episode feeling like I really should just go replay the game again.

Guess I'll keep an eye out on the synopses see if continues down the road of mediocrity or not...
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Old 2012-10-07, 02:29   Link #79
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I think this episode takes the phrase 'faithful adaptation' to an undesirable extreme. Not a bad episode by any means, but I like my scriptwriters to have a twiny bit of creativity.
So I have to deduct 3 points for this.

That said, it gets 5t903486093485990490 points for the OP and ED. Masterful.

So this episode gets 5t903486093485990487/10 from me.
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